Why are so many men now afraid of talking to women?

[Unbothered]

Because they are broke

 

[Yaraye]

Aint shit funny lol

plenty of shit be funny

 

[KaiMarvin]

plenty of shit be funny

Giggle some jiggle some

 

[Nin123]

Bro has places to be instead of chilling with a bunch of horner girls smoking smh

You did the right thing they probably will use you to pay for the Shisha anyways. I feel Somali girls use shisha more than farax just shame

 

[Khaem]

You did the right thing they probably will use you to pay for the Shisha anyways. I feel Somali girls use shisha more than farax just shame

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[Waa dhamatay]

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Humble brag

 

[Khaem]

Humble brag

My bad

 

[Waa dhamatay]

My bad

I’m kinda boring person so I just drift and rot in “greeting then radio silence” hell

 

[Khaem]

I’m kinda boring person so I just drift and rot in “greeting then radio silence” hell

I spend most of my time doing my own stuff alone aswell. It's just i talk too much on the occasions i socialise and get myself into some weird situations. Most people do not constantly live crazy moments unless they are rich or always out the house.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

I spend most of my time doing my own stuff alone aswell. It's just i talk too much on the occasions i socialise and get myself into some weird situations. Most people do not constantly live crazy moments unless they are rich or always out the house.

That’s good. I just LDAR (most of my problems are self imposed) in my spare time. You talk a lot because you have decent things to talk about, otherwise you’d just piss people off

 

[Khaem]

That’s good. I just LDAR (most of my problems are self imposed) in my spare time. You talk a lot because you have decent things to talk about, otherwise you’d just piss people off

Talk about general things to get the conversation started and as it progresses you can go deeper and hopefully make a connection. Simply putting yourself out there and going with the flow is the best you can do. Everyone has some anxiety so you don't need to worry about being a little shy at first.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

Talk about general things to get the conversation started and as it progresses you can go deeper and hopefully make a connection. Simply putting yourself out there and going with the flow is the best you can do. Everyone has some anxiety so you don't need to worry about being a little shy at first.

‘mirin the normiemaxxing advice

 

[Abba Sadacha]

95% of women go for the top 5% of men. Their standards only go down when they reach 30-35 and are looking for a simp they don't respect or love to provide. They will be bitter about not getting the man they want and treat you badly for it. Very few average men fall for it. Women are not looking for good men otherwise they wouldnt have babies with men who anyone could told to them would be bad husbands and fathers. I saw that around 70-80% of African Americans in America are fathered by the same 15-20% of men. It's not equally distributed.

This could be why women in Islam can only be married with a wali, because, a lot of them, tend to make bad choices in regards to choosing men...

 

[Angelina]

I don't think men are necessarily afraid to talk to women. I just think that for some men, the dating world is considerably more cold. The reason has to do with online dating, as it provides a much wider amount of options for women (the quality of the relationship however is not so guaranteed).

In the past, if I lived in downtown Toronto, a woman's options would be limited to her overall social circle, and as a result, I just have to compete against about maybe 10-20 guys max.

However add in online dating, and now I'm competing against maybe 100 or so. (Not that it's bad for me specifically, as I'm on a different level ).

Also, culturally, the game has changed. A generation or so ago, free form sexual hook up based relationships were not as popular as it was now. And not all men (believe it or not) are interested in just hooking up. They'd prefer deeper relationships. Looks become a bigger factor now, especially in online dating, which is why incels also increased as well (a reductive explanation for incels specifically, as there's more to it).

There are less hookups now than a let’s say the 80s and 90s. Young people are in fact more celibate than their parents gen.

So not only is the game colder, but the types of women a lot of traditional men would want don't exist as frequently anymore.

Now we add in internet addiction. A lot of men and women don't go outside. A lot of guys get roasted for this, but I think women also fit into this category as well. So, for those that want to touch grass so to speak, the options are again smaller. This is simply because the internet is addictive and a lot more stimulating than the outer world.

Finally there's the economic factor. Now I personally don't have a lot of issues with feminism, but it caused some unintended consequences on an economic level in tandem to other economic changes.

Basically, 50% of the population got added to the workforce. This increase in the workforce increases the supply of available labour (skilled or unskilled). Employers are then poised to give less wages (as more would compete for a job). Add in the fact that some jobs are also outsourced in different countries, and this competition becomes more fierce.

Now culturally, women haven't adjusted themselves to their expectations on men being materially affluent (despite this literally being a type of objectification), which causes a lot of men (not me baby, my money long and the card never declined ) to feel insecure and think they don't measure up.

More women are in 50/50 relationships with many women now being breadwinners. Men now have it easier as women are willing to split bills in the West.

Finally, marriage is essentially dead. More than 50% of marriages end in divorce. Men usually suffer more in divorces as they pay alimony and don't have custody of the kids. About 70% of divorces are initiated by women.

Men do not suffer more. Statistically it’s single mothers who suffer by every metric. Only 5% of women get alimony and that’s from rich men who can afford it. Average men don’t pay alimony on average and the average child support is in fact $450 with 50% of women not even getting child support. Redpill has really lied to us it’s insane. Look at the data.

Women have the same expectations on men that they had before feminism.

If that was the case why do women contribute more on average now compared to pre-feminism? The average Western household is dual income.

Men have to compete more in regards to dating.
There are less traditional women for men who are into that.
It's harder to be economically secure.
Women still expect you to be rich anyway.
And marriage is essentially a scam now.

Women do not expect men to be rich. Many women contribute and are in 50/50 relationships. Look at statistics please.

Now does this apply to me? Hell no, I'm the man!

 

[TheManWhoIsAlive]

There are less hookups now than a let’s say the 80s and 90s. Young people are in fact more celibate than their parents gen.

More women are in 50/50 relationships with many women now being breadwinners. Men now have it easier as women are willing to split bills in the West.

Men do not suffer more. Statistically it’s single mothers who suffer by every metric. Only 5% of women get alimony and that’s from rich men who can afford it. Average men don’t pay alimony on average and the average child support is in fact $450 with 50% of women not even getting child support. Redpill has really lied to us it’s insane. Look at the data.

If that was the case why do women contribute more on average now compared to pre-feminism? The average Western household is dual income.

Women do not expect men to be rich. Many women contribute and are in 50/50 relationships. Look at statistics please.

I have doubts about there being less hookups now than in previous times, because of the lack of technology and the lack of studies that could have been done. If you have a study proving otherwise, I'm down to read it.

Although there are more women who do things 50/50, I don't know if this resulted in more breadwinners being women. I have a hard time believing that, as I can't picture the majority of women wanting that arrangement.

I'll do more research on the details of divorce myself. I'll admit, that although my statistical points are correct, I don't know all the details about it. When I'm done my research, I'll respond about that.

Contributions don't necessarily mean that expectations will change. It just means that the economic conditions from embracing an ideology will result in more contributions. I don't deny that women contribute more when in a relationship. My point is on expectations. They're different.

What statistics are you referring to in regards to financial expectations women have on men.

Again, I'm not a red or black piller. I'm just a guy with eyes and a brain. I'm simply reasoning out my observations. Which have been consistent from my experience.

 

[DangerBadan]

Because they bring nothing to the table

 

[Angelina]

I have doubts about there being less hookups now than in previous times, because of the lack of technology and the lack of studies that could have been done. If you have a study proving otherwise, I'm down to read it.

More and more people aren’t getting in relationships, and it’s even worrying governments. Youngsters party less at unis, drink less, partake in less risky behaviors and the list goes on. You’ve even mentioned something about social media making people more lonely, well that’s the reason. I’ll find you the statistics. There are even less teen pregnancies now than the 90s and early 2000s. Also, why would their be lack of studies in the 90s and early 2000s? That’s still relatively modern?

Although there are more women who do things 50/50, I don't know if this resulted in more breadwinners being women. I have a hard time believing that, as I can't picture the majority of women wanting that arrangement.

Obviously men are the main breadwinners in relationships, but throughout the years there has been a steady increase in female breadwinner relationships. It’s increased.

I'll do more research on the details of divorce myself. I'll admit, that although my statistical points are correct, I don't know all the details about it. When I'm done my research, I'll respond about that.

Your statistical points aren’t correct because men actually fare better in divorce compared to women. Only 5% of women actually get alimony and women getting custody doesn’t mean they’re doing better. Women are the primary caregivers in relationships and men often to do not contest custody. Why would they? When it’s women who look after the children. They also on average only get 450 and half don’t even get money.

Contributions don't necessarily mean that expectations will change. It just means that the economic conditions from embracing an ideology will result in more contributions. I don't deny that women contribute more when in a relationship. My point is on expectations. They're different.

Expectations means nothing if people are ultimately settling. A man for instance might want/expect/fantasize about an ultra beautiful woman with a perfect body. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t go for a woman more on his level look wise.

What statistics are you referring to in regards to financial expectations women have on men.

Expectations means nothing if people are ultimately settling. Men can get into relationships and many women are willing or forced to pay 50%. Men aren’t providers any more like the past. It’s a new era.

Again, I'm not a red or black piller. I'm just a guy with eyes and a brain. I'm simply reasoning out my observations. Which have been consistent from my experience.

What experiences? How common is it in your day to day life for a man to pay alimony? How common is it in your day to day life for a man to pay more than 500 in child support? How common is it for Western women to not contribute financially to their homes?

 

[yasmeen]

I think, in our youth, we have all gone through that socialist phase with equity, wealth distribution, and human welfare serving as the most appealingly determinants, but as one matures, one comes to the harsh realisation there shall forever be haves and have-nots.

It still appeals to me. It is not like other ideologies moved me. I hate the neoliberal world order to my core and if I could, I would burn everything down and start anew. But I can’t do that. I have no power and I’m irrelevant. So I took the grill pill and became apathetic. It’s easier to just stop caring.

I am a naturally empathetic person but now I save my empathy for my own people. I don’t care about other people unless you’re close to me (It sounds harsh but it’s the truth.) Community means everything to me.

You would be surprised, there are so many 'Kacaanists' (thank you for bringing that word into the conversation) selectively, if falsely reminiscing of the nostalgia that was the good old days, which indeed had been terribly bad, if tragically sad, whilst still managing to indoctrinate their offspring. I recently saw a video clip of people, of all places from PL & SL, heartily receiving one of Siyad's daughters chanting his undying devotion, and by extension hers. Imagine that!

This is the second time you criticized the Kacaan.


Let me correct myself. A minority of Somalis are leftists who support the Kacaan. I am aware there are apolitical Kacaan sympathizers who simply miss the days they had a real state.

I don’t look to those days to reminisce. Barre left much to be desired. I look to those days because a functioning state was still infinitely better than this timeline. Some crises could have been prevented.

Chicago is a lovely city with a plenty of jazz haunts, dining spots, and theatres in the Chicago theatre district, Storefront, and Edgewater. Devon Ave, the Asia district, in the far north, is quite nice. Crime is a matter for concern, albeit is overly reported, for it involves poor people.

Yes, it is quite eerie at times. I have got mates, formerly of the navy and marine, who collect guns, one of them has a basement packed with guns incl. machine guns, and thinks the Feds shall invade, a die-hard Trump supporter, yet I enjoy his company when we go hunting, albeit agreed many moons ago to never engage in political discourse.

I thought I was the only one here with Trumpie friends lolz.

I grew up surrounded by such people as well. I took the grill pill a long time ago before I even knew what it was.

I don’t care about political divides as much as other leftists. I think I am excellent at judging unprincipled and morally corrupt people from good people. They both exist across all political and religious lines.

I already come from a conservative and reactionary background so the political divides of westerners never phased me. What’s the worst they can say that I haven’t already heard at home?

Could I ask, if personal, you do not have to answer it: how did you end up being 'irreligious'?

I want to refrain from discussing the deen on this website. I can privately answer but I would prefer to avoid publicly answering. There are many reasons why I chose to apostate. Out of respect to the muslims here, I don’t want to participate in discussions about Islam.


Please privately message me if you would like to hear my story.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

I feel bad for you kids in here. Arranged marriages are popular now so enlist with relatives and friends and be honest about your desperation.

Some of you wrote like 3000 word replies. Holy f*ck. Talk about dedication to the opposote sex. I pray for you children. May Allah help you find decent mates who satisfy all your needs.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

It still appeals to me. It is not like other ideologies moved me. I hate the neoliberal world order to my core and if I could, I would burn everything down and start anew.

I consider both neoCons (war hawks and profiteers) and neoLibs (corporate lackeys abandoning classic liberal economic ideologies whilst embracing, enriching their campaign financiers) two factions of the same party, and hardly take their forever switching positions seriously. Are you familiar with any of the right-wing radio hosts the likes of M Levin, M Savage etc., or the liberals like M McNeal, T Hartmann? A bellwether to gauge as to which direction the political wind is shifting, I briefly listen to them whilst stuck in traffic jams at peak hours. Comedic, if informing to the immigrants!

This is the second time you criticized the Kacaan.

Oh mind me not, for I am of 'jabhado' modulation, view all things history through their prism, and could not stand anything related to 'kacaa', but shall let your beloved 'kacaan' be.

Do you perforate, nip, or imbibe poetry?

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I took the grill pill a long time ago before I even knew what it was.

This peculiar concept 'a blithe resignation by the left to the failures of restraining neoliberalism', I never was familiar with, and is of interest.

Please privately message me if you would like to hear my story.

Of course, I think your DM feature is off.