Why do Somalis have their own country, but Afars and Oromos don't?

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Aksum did not originate in Yemen and Yemen was only part of it for a brief period of time.
This is off topic, but is there any appetite for unification between Eritreans & Ethiopians? They're both Habesha dominated states & they share a common Axumite heritage, so what exactly is stopping them from uniting?
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This is off topic, but is there any appetite for unification between Eritreans & Ethiopians? They're both Habesha dominated states & they share a common Axumite heritage, so what exactly is stopping them from uniting?
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After Axum, places in Tigray and Eritrea for the most part had different kingdoms and they were always at heads. Tigray was a different province to Eritrea as well under Abyssinia. The TPLF and EPLF were close at one point, but crap happens:manny:. There's loads of articles on the history of the two parties.

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Ras

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There is nowhere that says which country it started in and Ge'ez is not from South Arabia, only the alphabet is, this is common knowledge now and it was the kingdom following D'mt.

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D'mt was more of a culture instead of a kingdom and was most likely merged into Aksum when South Arabians took over the hood at the time. Think they might have split from the dying jerks of the Sheba Kingdom.

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It's a very simple question if one know the history of the region


Before the colonist British and French came to the Horn of Africa, each group had their own little territories. For example, the Oromo had the Kingdom of Jimma, while the Somalis and Afar had numerous kingdoms and clan fiefdoms.

All, that changed, When Menelik II ascended the throne of what was called Abyssinia at the time. He successful used the fear the colonial powers had of each other to gain favors. For example, he went to the Russian, who gave him weapons and trainers. He went to the British, who were scared that the Italian would conquer Ethiopia and the whole region. They gave him more weapons and help. This change the whole balance of power in the Horn.

Eventually, with the help of the weapons he got from these countries and support from some Oromo clans, he was able to crush all his opponents. You have to remember, back then most people were fighting with primitive weapons, compared to what he got.

In truth, from what I read, Menelik actually wanted to conquer the whole region, including the Somalia. But the colonial powers prevented him from doing so, especially, the British who already had Somaliland, and the Italian in the South.

If Somalis were left alone to face Menelik's forces, I can guarantee you, that today we would have been speaking Amharic. But the all mighty had other plans.
 
After Axum, places in Tigray and Eritrea for the most part had different kingdoms and they were always at heads. Tigray was a different province to Eritrea as well under Abyssinia. The TPLF and EPLF were close at one point, but crap happens:manny:. There's loads of articles on the history of the two parties.

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Eritrea will never join Ethiopia. Your tribe is oppressing my people. Eritrea is a Muslim majority country.
 

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Eritrea will never join Ethiopia. Your tribe is oppressing my people. Eritrea is a Muslim majority country.

Somalia, Eritrea & Ethiopia should join up to counter balance the demographics. Sticking to the status quo just means more dictators and conflict. Only issue is the language since the people in the Horn will never use an European language as an official language.
 

Prince of Lasanod

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It's a very simple question if one know the history of the region


Before the colonist British and French came to the Horn of Africa, each group had their own little territories. For example, the Oromo had the Kingdom of Jimma, while the Somalis and Afar had numerous kingdoms and clan fiefdoms.

All, that changed, When Menelik II ascended the throne of what was called Abyssinia at the time. He successful used the fear the colonial powers had of each other to gain favors. For example, he went to the Russian, who gave him weapons and trainers. He went to the British, who were scared that the Italian would conquer Ethiopia and the whole region. They gave him more weapons and help. This change the whole balance of power in the Horn.

Eventually, with the help of the weapons he got from these countries and support from some Oromo clans, he was able to crush all his opponents. You have to remember, back then most people were fighting with primitive weapons, compared to what he got.

In truth, from what I read, Menelik actually wanted to conquer the whole region, including the Somalia. But the colonial powers prevented him from doing so, especially, the British who already had Somaliland, and the Italian in the South.

If Somalis were left alone to face Menelik's forces, I can guarantee you, that today we would have been speaking Amharic. But the all mighty had other plans.
Menelik wanted to conquer Uganda, Sudan, Kenya etc. Very delusional. He struggled to conquer the Oromos who were using bows and arrows, he'd have no chance taking Somalia(already tried and failed anyway). The truth is, he wouldn't be able to conquer the langaab Canfar if everybody in the Horn was able to buy guns. But when you allow someone to buy 100,000 martini-henry/remington rolling block rifles which were equivalent to nuclear weapons at the time, and stop everybody else from acquiring any weapons whatsoever, then even a monkey wouldn't fail.
 
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D'mt was more of a culture instead of a kingdom and was most likely merged into Aksum when South Arabians took over the hood at the time. Think they might have split from the dying jerks of the Sheba Kingdom.

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South Arabians did not start Aksum, that was an old belief:snoop:.
Eritrea will never join Ethiopia. Your tribe is oppressing my people. Eritrea is a Muslim majority country.
You're oppressing yourself by changing your identity every single hour.
 

Khalid Hussein

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The Afars and Oromos are langaab and got swallowed whole and crushed under the boot of xabashi imperialism.

Somalis are notoriously stubborn, republican and had a formidable fighting force. We were on the upper hand militarily and industrially for most of our history. It would make no sense for us to be subjugated.
On spot, Somalis look them selves different.
 
The Afars and Oromos are langaab and got swallowed whole and crushed under the boot of xabashi imperialism.

Somalis are notoriously stubborn, republican and had a formidable fighting force. We were on the upper hand militarily and industrially for most of our history. It would make no sense for us to be subjugated.

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South Arabians did not start Aksum, that was an old belief:snoop:.

You're oppressing yourself by changing your identity every single hour.

Dude, stop denying your origins. Even though the Axumites officially started in the horn, they were not native to it. They were a branch of South Semitic, along with their geez language. You are not native to the horn. You've just hijacked land and culture belonging to the Northern and central Cushites. Even the Anglo-Saxon admit they come from Germany.:draketf:
 
In Axum times, Somalis & other lowland cushites were nomads. The other Cushites were conquered & assimilated by the Axumites.

Actually bro, the Axumites territories wasn't that big. They managed to conquer the Kushites, when the latter civilisation declined along with Ancient Egypt. They also held.southern Yemen for a few years until the Persians kicked them out. But they didn't assimilate and conquer the Oromo and afar until well into the 19-20th centuries with the help of European weapons.

This is the true size of their "empire"

Map_of_Aksum_and_South_Arabia_ca._230_AD.jpg



And after conquering Kush

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Khalid Hussein

بسم الله الرحمن الر حيم
Officially Aksum did start in Eritrea but it's a lot more complicated since it relates to the import of the Ge'ez language from South Arabia. The people who ruled Aksum were most likely from across the Red Sea so it could've been a continuation of an existing dynasty in Yemen.

Actually bro, the Axumites territories wasn't that big. They managed to conquer the Kushites, when the latter civilisation declined along with Ancient Egypt. They also held.southern Yemen for a few years until the Persians kicked them out. But they didn't assimilate and conquer the Oromo and afar until well into the 19-20th centuries with the help of European weapons.

This is the true size of their "empire"

Map_of_Aksum_and_South_Arabia_ca._230_AD.jpg



And after conquering Kush

1200px-African-civilizations-map-pre-colonial.svg.png

I will take over somalia and arabia with a horse and A gun
 
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