Why do Somalis think Menigstu Haile Mariam was Amhara?

[random12345]

His story should be turned into a movie. A Bantu guy rising in a society dominated by Cushites.

Habesh unchained

 

[random12345]

We were never slaves. Nice try lol.

You sure

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

The ruler of a nation working to destroy it from the inside...it's definitely a romantic idea

Communism in action...


We should fund commies in ethiopia to destabilise & destroy it internally. The bantu folks in Ethiopia will definitely buy into it & become commies.
:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Bahal]

We were never slaves. Nice try lol.

Perhaps but Habash to me has always been a derogatory term for slave in Soomaali.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

He was only 25% Amhara and I think it came from his paternal side (because the patriarchal line is the only way the royal lineage would be accepted). I think the rest of his 25% mix was Gurage...but some also claim that he was raised in Harar or something.
Lol, there were Tigray rulers too (I believe Yohannes, Ras Alula, and Tewodros are the main ones). And yeah, there were a lot of Oromos in high ranks (especially as generals) and they also married into a lot of Amhara families but some of the Oromos today don't want to admit that.

None of them spoke Oromo though, and they all considered themselves Amhara. In fact, genetically they were identical to your typical Habesha.

 

[Bohol]

He was only 25% Amhara and I think it came from his paternal side (because the patriarchal line is the only way the royal lineage would be accepted). I think the rest of his 25% mix was Gurage...but some also claim that he was raised in Harar or something.
Lol, there were Tigray rulers too (I believe Yohannes, Ras Alula, and Tewodros are the main ones). And yeah, there were a lot of Oromos in high ranks (especially as generals) and they also married into a lot of Amhara families but some of the Oromos today don't want to admit that.

The reason for that is those rulers never worked for the interest of the Oromos but the interest of Amhara, that is why they don't like
to claim them.

 

[TooMacaan]

You sure

Not collectively.

 

[Abdalla]

Amazing how a mere sergeant can lead a military coup.

 

[DuctTape]

Communism in action...


We should fund commies in ethiopia to destabilise & destroy it internally. The bantu folks in Ethiopia will definitely buy into it & become commies.
:siilaanyolaugh:

Fuel the instability by creating more divisions and deepening existing ones
You're speaking my language bradar
We need Ethiopia to break up into 10 different countries
#Habeshastan2020

 

[TooMacaan]

Perhaps but Habash to me has always been a derogatory term for slave in Soomaali.

I wonder why...:siilaanyosmile:

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[Lord Flacko]

We were never slaves. Nice try lol.

Abyssinian slaves have been a very desired thing among slave owners who liked the bronze skin, but in value you were under the white girl and above the black menial slave

 

[XamarCade]

Not collectively.

What's ur thought on haile selassie, was he better than mengistu and woyane

 

[TooMacaan]

None of them spoke Oromo though, and they all considered themselves Amhara. In fact, genetically they were identical to your typical Habesha.

That's just the official language though...it's not like Somalia where there is only one language present. For the sake of communication purposes, there has to be a uniting one...it's not like we can give all 80 different ethnic groups a platform. It comes down to practicality. Yes, they embraced most of Amhara culture but they didn't consider themselves Amhara...what kinda Amharic name is "Balcha Safo" for example???

 

[TooMacaan]

The reason for that is those rulers never worked for the interest of the Oromos but the interest of Amhara, that is why they don't like
to claim them.

Okay, those Oromos may have worked for the "interest of the Amhara"...but what is the so called "interest of the Amhara"??
Also no one forced them, they are intelligent and able adults, they willingly chose to accept those interests because they agreed with them.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Fuel the instability by creating more divisions and deepening existing ones
You're speaking my language bradar
We need Ethiopia to break up into 10 different countries
#Habeshastan2020

It's a winning formula sxb, we fund & arm commie bantus to create instability & destruction. Afterwards, our army will steamroll through ethiopia. The Habesha won't be able to fight on two fronts.

 

[Bohol]

Okay, those Oromos may have worked for the "interest of the Amhara"...but what is the so called "interest of the Amhara"??
Also no one forced them, they are intelligent and able adults, they willingly chose to accept those interests because they agreed with them.

Well you're Amhara, you know the interests of Amhara better than me. :siilaanyosmile:

 

[TooMacaan]

What's ur thought on haile selassie, was he better than mengistu and woyane

I think he was a tragic hero but I also didn't support his rule because there is no place for Monarchy and Feudalism in Ethiopia. It's an old, outdated system and all men/women are equal imo, no need for royal masters. I think it was his detachment from that reality that also led to his downfall...many people wanted a democracy (like what they heard about in the West) and his pace for change was too slow for the masses.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

That's just the official language though...it's not like Somalia where there is only one language present. For the sake of communication purposes, there has to be a uniting one...it's not like we can give all 80 different ethnic groups a platform. It comes down to practicality. Yes, they embraced most of Amhara culture but they didn't consider themselves Amhara...what kinda Amharic name is "Balcha Safo" for example???

So what is the distinguishing factor between an Oromo, an Amhara and a Tigrayan?

 

[TooMacaan]

Well you're Amhara, you know the interests of Amhara better than me. :siilaanyosmile:

From your perspective(since, ya know, I might be biased)?? I'm interested in hearing it...

 

[TooMacaan]

So what is the distinguishing factor between an Oromo, an Amhara and a Tigrayan?

Probably culture and language. I think Amhara is like the in middle of those two; we are most like the Tigrayans but we are also similar to some Oromos.