Will the self-declared state show East Africa how it’s done?

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Bottom line, Somali unity does not exist, the bilateral relations between federal states and Neighboring countries are more stronger than with the central government. If any other region wants to secede it up to them.

No you cannot say that when none of the federal states besides SL has called for illegal secession. Unity is still alive but it needs help.

You said if Somaliland become a country, it will not cooperate with Somalia meaning you gave up on Somali-Somali cooperation on the state level. Your opinion of what should Somaliland and Somalia become have nothing to do with the hypothetical question u raised.

Yes I gave it up on the state level, because its not feasible. How can little SL be able to co operate with Somalia when the first thing it will do is become best friends with Ethiopia, just so that it can undermine its southern brethren. It is clear cut sxb.

Because you can't say I support Somalia as country and than back peddle and say I don't support the system and politicians. If you don't than why should SK unite with you?? Oh because we will fix everything up soon lamo FOH

That's like me saying I support SL but not the government. Do u see how pathetic and self contradicting that sound, calling for the unity with a government you don't acknowledge, you can't make this shit up.

I'm not going to be shady and ambiguous as you are to my believes, I stand by Somaliland 1 man 1 vote system. Man up and own the 4.5 muh qabiil cult your advocating for.

0% logic here.

You do realise that I can support Somalia, but not the government or the 4.5 system right? Can I not support the people who are at least doing good for the country? Can I not support people who want to wipe out corruption, reform SNA, kick out AMISOM and develop the nation?

Or do I have to follow your route and say I won't support your country because of "Muh Qabiil".

That is impossible to reach under a federal system. Every state wants most aid, development, funds and representation. Lets not kid ourselves, Utopia you're describing will never materialize after 1000 years, because any state that fails to get what it wants from SFG will simply turn into ajnabis compromising your failed unity even further. A zero sum game. That is if your even lucky to reach this stage and secure Mogadishu by the end of the century.

You do realise that Somalia isn't the only country that uses the federal system right?

It may have it's flaws, however, once qabyaalad is killed and unity is FULLY restored, then the problems that you have mentioned will be gone.

 

[Frazier]

No you cannot say that when none of the federal states besides SL has called for illegal secession. Unity is still alive but it needs help.

Yes they have Jubaland/Azania called for secession from Somalia on two different occasions under Morgan and Ahmed Madobe. PL has in the past threatened to break and from its own country before. The only difference is SL is keeping it real 100% Somali unity is

Yes I gave it up on the state level, because its not feasible. How can little SL be able to co operate with Somalia when the first thing it will do is become best friends with Ethiopia, just so that it can undermine its southern brethren. It is clear cut sxb.

No, you've given up because SL will no longer be tied up to Somalia and finally come out of your orbit. That is why u conceded the debate so easily and give up on SL. We have borders with Somalia and will surely cooperate on common interests, the extent however, is entirely up to you. Djibouti which has no borders with Somalia still cooperate with SFG and has a small batallion under AMISOM rendering your argument false.

0% logic here.

You do realise that I can support Somalia, but not the government or the 4.5 system right? Can I not support the people who are at least doing good for the country? Can I not support people who want to wipe out corruption, reform SNA, kick out AMISOM and develop the nation?

Or do I have to follow your route and say I won't support your country because of "Muh Qabiil"

That's what u did acknowledge earlier, right? Giving up Cooperation with SL because they are finally not tied to Mogadishu. Have u thought that I won't clock that, u undercover qabilist?

The reasons you gave are meek and pathetic, we should gave up our country for supposedly, nameless, faceless people roaming around the streets and fighting for better future.

They're performing very poorly at their jobs than

You do realise that Somalia isn't the only country that uses the federal system right?

It may have it's flaws, however, once qabyaalad is killed and unity is FULLY restored, then the problems that you have mentioned will be gone.

Qapyalaad will not end anytime soon, necessity has founded this social system to allow pastoral communities to protect and support each other in the absence of government institutions. Your utopia fairy tale are so naive a provocative. How do you debate people with dreams and promises u dense tard

 

[xisaabiye]

Wallahi this hutus brain is fried digir

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Yes they have Jubaland/Azania called for secession from Somalia on two different occasions under Morgan and Ahmed Madobe. PL has in the past threatened to break and from its own country before. The only difference is SL is keeping it real 100% Somali unity is

Evidence?

SL is not keeping it real, you people couldn't even control your airspace from Qatari planes.

No, you've given up because SL will no longer be tied up to Somalia and finally come out of your orbit. That is why u conceded the debate so easily and give up on SL. We have borders with Somalia and will surely cooperate on common interests, the extent however, is entirely up to you. Djibouti which has no borders with Somalia still cooperate with SFG and has a small batallion under AMISOM rendering your argument false.

Woah, why are you being so hypothetical? Borders? Sxb, SL needs to be recognised as a sovereign nation before any of that can happen.

Again, my point seems to fly over your head. If SL is willing to come operate with Somalia ( if it ever gets independence) then I'm fine with that because it's a completely different country, however we all know the outcome of SL getting independence and that's SL being slaves to the Xabashi raw meat eaters.

That's what u did acknowledge earlier, right? Giving up Cooperation with SL because they are finally not tied to Mogadishu. Have u thought that I won't clock that, u undercover qabilist?

The reasons you gave are meek and pathetic, we should gave up our country for supposedly, nameless, faceless people roaming around the streets and fighting for better future.

They're performing very poorly at their jobs than

Nope, again my earlier point refutes this. At the end of the day if SL gets independence and sides with Ethiopia, which wants to destabilise Somalia, then why the f*ck would Somalia want to co operate with people who want to destabilise it's own country. It's just insane.

Once real stability returns to Somalia, are you still going to whinge and moan, "We want independence because of "Muh Qabiil" and the south is unstable?"

How very inconsiderate.

Qapyalaad will not end anytime soon, necessity has founded this social system to allow pastoral communities to protect and support each other in the absence of government institutions. Your utopia fairy tale are so naive a provocative. How do you debate people with dreams and promises u dense tard

Pessimism is one of the symptoms of "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome, and I can see it in full force now.

When most of the world has rid itself of tribalism we are not only lagging behind, but people are actually calling for qabyaalad to stay. Insanity. Under a strong coherent government, where a meritocratic system is the way forward and corruption is rooted out, then qabyaalad will die.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Wallahi this hutus brain is fried digir

Far from that sxb. Your brain however is poisoned because of being indoctrinated by villainous politicians which is why you have "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

I suggest you have a look at the recent thread that I created. It will benefit you immensely.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/#post-887899

 

[DRACO]

This is why no one takes you seriously. Somaliland has escaped the civil war? Wtf are you talking about. Somaliland and SNM initiated the civil war when Afweyne and the faqash decided to persecute the Isaaq population. Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera were leveled with aerial bombardment and mortars. 50,000 died in Hargeisa and it's surrounding areas alone. No Somali city has seen the destruction Hargeisa had. Are you high or something? Nobody can be this dense.

He is blind , he only wants to see stuff the way he wants.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

He is blind , he only wants to see stuff the way he wants.

You are blind too, you suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome, so all you say are sheepish things, as a result of being ideologically poisoned by the corrupt and villainous politicians.

I could say the same exact thing, no one wants to see my perspective, which is the perspective of all unionists. It's only about "Muh Qabiil" for you people.

 

[Lordilord]

Evidence?

SL is not keeping it real, you people couldn't even control your airspace from Qatari planes.




Woah, why are you being so hypothetical? Borders? Sxb, SL needs to be recognised as a sovereign nation before any of that can happen.

Again, my point seems to fly over your head. If SL is willing to come operate with Somalia ( if it ever gets independence) then I'm fine with that because it's a completely different country, however we all know the outcome of SL getting independence and that's SL being slaves to the Xabashi raw meat eaters.




Nope, again my earlier point refutes this. At the end of the day if SL gets independence and sides with Ethiopia, which wants to destabilise Somalia, then why the f*ck would Somalia want to co operate with people who want to destabilise it's own country. It's just insane.

Once real stability returns to Somalia, are you still going to whinge and moan, "We want independence because of "Muh Qabiil" and the south is unstable?"

How very inconsiderate.





Pessimism is one of the symptoms of "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome, and I can see it in full force now.

When most of the world has rid itself of tribalism we are not only lagging behind, but people are actually calling for qabyaalad to stay. Insanity. Under a strong coherent government, where a meritocratic system is the way forward and corruption is rooted out, then qabyaalad will die.

You don't seem to understand that Somaliland already is independent. Independence is not the problem, recognition is.

You keep saying if Somaliland gets independence which already happened.

I don't know if you mean if Somaliland gets recognition?

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

You don't seem to understand that Somaliland already is independent. Independence is not the problem, recognition is.

You keep saying if Somaliland gets independence which already happened.

I don't know if you mean if Somaliland gets recognition?

You don't have independence, it is illegal secession. Somaliland does not exist as a sovereign nation. So your is not complete.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

You don't have independence, it is illegal secession. Somaliland does not exist as a sovereign nation. So your is not complete.

*Independence is not complete.

 

[Lordilord]

*Independence is not complete.

You call it illegal secession, I call it voluntarily leaving a failed union.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

You call it illegal secession, I call it voluntarily leaving a failed union.

Failed union? Far from it sxb, it is only a failed union, once every state breaks away.

Have you seen my recent thread, I think you will benefit from it:


https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

 

[Frazier]

Evidence?

SL is not keeping it real, you people couldn't even control your airspace from Qatari planes.

Among the flags of short-living separatist entities in Somalia should be added that of Jubaland. This is territory in the south of Somalia, along Juba (Giubbe) river, with area about 80 000 km2 and more than one million inhabitants. The capital is Chisimaio. Jubaland was a part of British East Africa until 1925 when it was ceded to Italy as a compensation for its help in World War I and subsequently Jubaland became a part of Italian Somalia. In 1998, one of the Somali warlords, Mohamed Said Hersi Morgan, gained control over Jubaland and proclaimed an independent republic This was not recognized by anybody. The flag chosen to represent the independent state was divided vertically into red and green with a white five-pointed star, in the same pattern as on the Somali national flag, in center. In 1999, the Juba Valley Alliance, led by Ahmed Warsame, overthrew Morgan and in the 2001 the Jubaland republic ceased to exist following a treaty with the Somali provisional government.

Woah, why are you being so hypothetical? Borders? Sxb, SL needs to be recognised as a sovereign nation before any of that can happen.

Again, my point seems to fly over your head. If SL is willing to come operate with Somalia ( if it ever gets independence) then I'm fine with that because it's a completely different country, however we all know the outcome of SL getting independence and that's SL being slaves to the Xabashi raw meat eaters.

I'm being Hypocritical, because you brought up SL foreign relations in the event of gaining recognition, dumbaass.

Wake up n smell the coffee, Somalia is Ethiopia's bucket, their forces roam freely in Somalia, they don't need SL to enslave your kind, their work was done in 2009.


If Somaliland had recognition, why would it seek to destabilize Somalia, defeats the whole purpose of having another country, dumbass.

Nope, again my earlier point refutes this. At the end of the day if SL gets independence and sides with Ethiopia, which wants to destabilise Somalia, then why the f*ck would Somalia want to co operate with people who want to destabilise it's own country. It's just insane.

Once real stability returns to Somalia, are you still going to whinge and moan, "We want independence because of "Muh Qabiil" and the south is unstable?"

How very inconsiderate.

Another lame argument. You don't realize Somalia is Ethiopia's , your president flew to Addis Ababa with his begging bowl for more Ethiopian soldiers to flush out Al-Shabaab. Trust me, Ethiopia is fully capable of laying waste to Somalia's paper government, much less destabilize its subjects in the south.

Pessimism is one of the symptoms of "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome, and I can see it in full force now.

When most of the world has rid itself of tribalism we are not only lagging behind, but people are actually calling for qabyaalad to stay. Insanity. Under a strong coherent government, where a meritocratic system is the way forward and corruption is rooted out, then qabyaalad will die.

Nah I'm just being real, qabiil has always been important in the horn and will stay a driving factor in Somali politics for the forcible future. You rather to bury your head in the sand and scream Somalia. When confronted with Qabiil based government of Somalia, , you basically turn around, and blame your fart.

You provide no framework, timetable, realistic goals, just fool around with delusional dreams of changing the qabiil based government. We will do this, and do that, you say, utterly naive and pathetic!

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Among the flags of short-living separatist entities in Somalia should be added that of Jubaland. This is territory in the south of Somalia, along Juba (Giubbe) river, with area about 80 000 km2 and more than one million inhabitants. The capital is Chisimaio. Jubaland was a part of British East Africa until 1925 when it was ceded to Italy as a compensation for its help in World War I and subsequently Jubaland became a part of Italian Somalia. In 1998, one of the Somali warlords, Mohamed Said Hersi Morgan, gained control over Jubaland and proclaimed an independent republic This was not recognized by anybody. The flag chosen to represent the independent state was divided vertically into red and green with a white five-pointed star, in the same pattern as on the Somali national flag, in center. In 1999, the Juba Valley Alliance, led by Ahmed Warsame, overthrew Morgan and in the 2001 the Jubaland republic ceased to exist following a treaty with the Somali provisional government.

This is absolutely nothing sxb. When I said evidence, I was looking for long standing illegal secessionist movements. Not this you brain dead fool.

Wake up n smell the coffee, Somalia is Ethiopia's bucket, their forces roam freely in Somalia, they don't need SL to enslave your kind, their work was done in 2009.


If Somaliland had recognition, why would it seek to destabilize Somalia, defeats the whole purpose of having another country, dumbass.

When Al Shabaab are defeated, which will be soon Insha'Allah, those forces will be gone.

In your case, Xabashi raw meat eaters will still be your masters.

How many oromos are roaming free SL again?

SL and Somalia would have to fight for land and resources. Just look at the border clashes between SL and PL. If SL left the union, then it would most definitely try to gain more power in the Horn at the expense of it's southern brethren due to "Muh Qabiil".

Another lame argument. You don't realize Somalia is Ethiopia's , your president flew to Addis Ababa with his begging bowl for more Ethiopian soldiers to flush out Al-Shabaab. Trust me, Ethiopia is fully capable of laying waste to Somalia's paper government, much less destabilize its subjects in the south.

You know you could say the same exact things about Ethiopia. Again how many oromos are roaming free in SL.

All you guys talk about is AMISOM. Get a grip sxb, they will be gone very soon, once SNA is sorted out. 1000 troops are scheduled to leave.

Nah I'm just being real, qabiil has always been important in the horn and will stay a driving factor in Somali politics for the forcible future. You rather to bury your head in the sand and scream Somalia. When confronted with Qabiil based government of Somalia, , you basically turn around, and blame your fart.

You provide no framework, timetable, realistic goals, just fool around with delusional dreams of changing the qabiil based government. We will do this, and do that, you say, utterly naive and pathetic!

Most countries in the world have rid themselves of tribalism, however, Somalia is lagging behind because of people like you who still hold on to qabyaalad, who still hold on to the concept that someone can get a job because of "Muh Qabiil". Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Qabiil itself, however when it interferes with the government, economy, military etc, that's when it can form into qabyaalad and destroy nations. That's what you want isn't it? If someone who was better at you at doing a certain job, has a better skill set but he was a Madhibaan, you would look down at him and take the job that he deserved because you suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

I believe this thread will benefit you a lot:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

You suffer from so much pessimism, it has darkened your heart.

 

[Frazier]

This is absolutely nothing sxb. When I said evidence, I was looking for long standing illegal secessionist movements. Not this you brain dead fool.

Long standing or not, you asked for evidence on previous session movements in Somalia, and been provided with two. As I showed you, Somali unity is not sacred and the country is barely held together by mere convenience.

When Al Shabaab are defeated, which will be soon Insha'Allah, those forces will be gone.

In your case, Xabashi raw meat eaters will still be your masters.

How many oromos are roaming free SL again?

SL and Somalia would have to fight for land and resources. Just look at the border clashes between SL and PL. If SL left the union, then it would most definitely try to gain more power in the Horn at the expense of it's southern brethren due to "Muh Qabiil"

More excuses and empty promises. Didn't I told not to debate people with hopes and dreams, makes you sound delusional and out of touch.

https://www.voanews.com/a/amisom-marks-ten-years-somalia-to-everyones-regret/3751556.html


We are not alike, Oromo's are peasant groups, with no rights or representation, illegal immigrants who perform labor work in SL, in no way or form, those scattered disfranchised groups, who escaped prosecution in Ethiopia, can be placed on the same sentence with Ethiopian forces, a mechanized military force who pillager, rape and murder Somalis with impunity. You're the only doqon who place economic immigrants next to death squads and expect us to take you seriously.

Rest of you rant

You know you could say the same exact things about Ethiopia. Again how many oromos are roaming free in SL.

All you guys talk about is AMISOM. Get a grip sxb, they will be gone very soon, once SNA is sorted out. 1000 troops are scheduled to leave.

Those Oromos don't kill, rape and pillage our citizens inside SL, nor they exert any form of political influence. The same can't be said about Ethiopian army that your president begs for more to cross into Somalia.

Thank you for bringing up AMISOM, another independent military force, known for committing all sorts of crimes and atrocities in Somalia. Another proof that we're not alike.
"Muh they'll leave soon" Procrastinating much

Most countries in the world have rid themselves of tribalism, however, Somalia is lagging behind because of people like you who still hold on to qabyaalad, who still hold on to the concept that someone can get a job because of "Muh Qabiil". Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Qabiil itself, however when it interferes with the government, economy, military etc, that's when it can form into qabyaalad and destroy nations. That's what you want isn't it? If someone who was better at you at doing a certain job, has a better skill set but he was a Madhibaan, you would look down at him and take the job that he deserved because you suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

I believe this thread will benefit you a lot:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

You suffer from so much pessimism, it has darkened your heart.

Nah, beg someone else to revive your dead thread.

I'm perfectly fine, with anyone better qualified and suited to get a job instead of me. I'm from SL after all, you can't beat our resume for statehood.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Long standing or not, you asked for evidence on previous session movements in Somalia, and been provided with two. As I showed you, Somali unity is not sacred and the country is barely held together by mere convenience.

Mere convenience? If that was the case then Somalia would not be existing today. It is not mere convenience because people know secession would only lead to bloodshed and destruction for the Somali people, something that your ideologically poisoned brain needs to comprehend.

More excuses and empty promises. Didn't I told not to debate people with hopes and dreams, makes you sound delusional and out of touch.

https://www.voanews.com/a/amisom-marks-ten-years-somalia-to-everyones-regret/3751556.html


We are not alike, Oromo's are peasant groups, with no rights or representation, illegal immigrants who perform labor work in SL, in no way or form, those scattered disfranchised groups, who escaped prosecution in Ethiopia, can be placed on the same sentence with Ethiopian forces, a mechanized military force who pillager, rape and murder Somalis with impunity. You're the only doqon who place economic immigrants next to death squads and expect us to take you seriously.

Rest of you rant

You must realise that the destruction of Al Shabaab is not a dream, it is very much inevitable. Do you really think a bunch of bare footed disenfranchised teenagers with guns and bombs can survive for so long? A well drilled SNA would crush them.

I can see your very very terrified at the concept of a stable Somalia because then all of your arguments would collapse. But there is no need to be worried, unity and brotherhood will lead to everyone enjoying the fruits of prosperity. You must not let the qabyaalad parasite cloud your judgement.

It may seem the Oromos are just a few peasants doing some labour, but what will happen in a few years time, more oppression in Ethiopia, more Oromos will be going to SL. The floodgates will open and I'm sure you don't want that to happen.

Those Ethiopian forces shall be dealt with, I'm sure of it. But why would that be a reason for SL to illegally secede? The answer to that is, it is not, there is no reason whatsoever for SL to secede.

Those Oromos don't kill, rape and pillage our citizens inside SL, nor they exert any form of political influence. The same can't be said about Ethiopian army that your president begs for more to cross into Somalia.

Thank you for bringing up AMISOM, another independent military force, known for committing all sorts of crimes and atrocities in Somalia. Another proof that we're not alike.
"Muh they'll leave soon" Procrastinating much

Procrastinating? It is true, just search it up. AMISOM are leaving.

Nah, beg someone else to revive your dead thread.

I'm perfectly fine, with anyone better qualified and suited to get a job instead of me. I'm from SL after all, you can't beat our resume for statehood.

Sxb, you are in dire need of help, so I will continue to post this great thread for you, no matter what you say, because I know the qabyaalad parasite has eaten major areas of your temporal lobe and so understanding even simple concepts are becoming tougher and tougher.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

Resume for statehood?

Oh please




There is no resume whatsoever, that's just "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome. In fact the only things you guys can say is "we want independence because of "Muh Qabiil". We all know this sxb. But it ain't happening.

 

[Frazier]

Mere convenience? If that was the case then Somalia would not be existing today. It is not mere convenience because people know secession would only lead to bloodshed and destruction for the Somali people, something that your ideologically poisoned brain needs to comprehend.

Nice deflect there, after being provided with evidence on previous session movements, you spin the whole topic into effect of secession and putting froward worst case scenario

What I proved with two examples,that Somali unity has been jeopardized and there is a precedent of session movements. What you believe is none of my concern.

You must realise that the destruction of Al Shabaab is not a dream, it is very much inevitable. Do you really think a bunch of bare footed disenfranchised teenagers with guns and bombs can survive for so long? A well drilled SNA would crush them.

I can see your very very terrified at the concept of a stable Somalia because then all of your arguments would collapse. But there is no need to be worried, unity and brotherhood will lead to everyone enjoying the fruits of prosperity. You must not let the qabyaalad parasite cloud your judgement.

It may seem the Oromos are just a few peasants doing some labour, but what will happen in a few years time, more oppression in Ethiopia, more Oromos will be going to SL. The floodgates will open and I'm sure you don't want that to happen.

Those Ethiopian forces shall be dealt with, I'm sure of it. But why would that be a reason for SL to illegally secede? The answer to that is, it is not, there is no reason whatsoever for SL to secede.

More and more conjunctures, you bring nothing of substance, all your arguments could be summed in two words,"we will" who are we? Somali 4.5 government,perhaps AMISOM, Ethiopian forces, Kenya Defense force, because on the ground, they're the ones who carry out all combat missions.

Delusional tard!

Procrastinating? It is true, just search it up. AMISOM are leaving.

You're keep saying that since 2014, look where it got you now 3 years down the road.

https://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1307496/amisom-leave-somalia-2016-envoy

AMISOM and Ethiopia are here to stay, the sooner you accept your failed state, the better.

Sxb, you are in dire need of help, so I will continue to post this great thread for you, no matter what you say, because I know the qabyaalad parasite has eaten major areas of your temporal lobe and so understanding even simple concepts are becoming tougher and tougher.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

Like I said, beg someone else to revive your thread, its dead for a reason, dumbass.

Resume for statehood?

Oh please




There is no resume whatsoever, that's just "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome. In fact the only things you guys can say is "we want independence because of "Muh Qabiil". We all know this sxb. But it ain't happening.

Nah. I want statehood for more development and progress for country and people. We have control over 80% of our territory, 1 man 1 vote elections taking place as we speak, a standing National Army and functional government institutions.

Our resume beats yours in ever aspect you could imagine, and the only answer you could clap back with is " We will "

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Nice deflect there, after being provided with evidence on previous session movements, you spin the whole topic into effect of secession and putting froward worst case scenario

What I proved with two examples,that Somali unity has been jeopardized and there is a precedent of session movements. What you believe is none of my concern.

Somali unity being jeopardised?

Somali unity has never been jeopardised, even with SL illegal secession.

More and more conjunctures, you bring nothing of substance, all your arguments could be summed in two words,"we will" who are we? Somali 4.5 government,perhaps AMISOM, Ethiopian forces, Kenya Defense force, because on the ground, they're the ones who carry out all combat missions.

Delusional tard!

Again, my perfectly reasonable points seem to completely fly over your head. I'm getting tired of having to explain my points again and again to you. This is just becoming a vicious cycle

You're keep saying that since 2014, look where it got you now 3 years down the road.

https://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1307496/amisom-leave-somalia-2016-envoy

AMISOM and Ethiopia are here to stay, the sooner you accept your failed state, the better.

I apologise, "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome gets rid of logic, so concepts like "research" are beyond your capabilities.

Like I said, beg someone else to revive your thread, its dead for a reason, dumbass.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

You shall benefit from this. I know its hard but you must have willpower.

Nah. I want statehood for more development and progress for country and people. We have control over 80% of our territory, 1 man 1 vote elections taking place as we speak, a standing National Army and functional government institutions.

Our resume beats yours in ever aspect you could imagine, and the only answer you could clap back with is " We will "

Again, you just seem to think this is completely impossible within a strong and stable Somalia, which of course is possible.

For you its all about qabyaalad, which just shows the sorry state that Somalis overall are in.

 

[Frazier]

Somali unity being jeopardised?

Somali unity has never been jeopardised, even with SL illegal secession.

Again, what u believe is non of my concern, you've asked 4 evidence on alternative session movements to that of SL, and have been answered. Only difference is, SL keeping it real, straight forward, nonsense approach to reclaim our statehood.

Again, my perfectly reasonable points seem to completely fly over your head. I'm getting tired of having to explain my points again and again to you. This is just becoming a vicious cycle

I asked u a simple question, you can not seem to answer without empty dreams, and infinite procrastination, who will fight AlShabaab? SNA/4,5 Somali government, Ethiopian paramilitary troops, or Kenyan Defence Force. You keep saying we,we,we we..... Who TF are we?

I apologise, "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome gets rid of logic, so concepts like "research" are beyond your capabilities.

How do you think I got this news, dumbass. A simple search showing AMISOM will leave in 2016, left you utterly shocked and unable to comeback with a reasonable answer. Because that is what you and your government all have, procrastination , procrastination and procrastination. Suffice to say, you are under occupation, for the forcible future. And as we all know, occupied country, is no fit for unity, hence, why secession is a necessity, to drop the dead wight, and move forward.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

You shall benefit from this. I know its hard but you must have willpower.

Why would I revive your 23 reply thread, I'd rather beat your ass on this thread with muh qabill pole that was forcibly pulled from your behind.

Again, you just seem to think this is completely impossible within a strong and stable Somalia, which of course is possible.

Another lame attempt at procrastination, using hopes and dream, to keep the gullible populace, drugged with illusion of unity, why I'm not surprised

N before Somalia will do this and do that

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Again, what u believe is non of my concern, you've asked 4 evidence on alternative session movements to that of SL, and have been answered. Only difference SL is keeping it real, straight forward, nonsense approach to statehood.

SL is an illegal secessionist movement, so how on earth is that keeping it real?

I asked u a simple question you can not answer without empty dreams and promises, who will fight Al-Shabaab? SNA/4,5 Somali government, Ethiopian paramilitary troops, or Kenyan Defence Force. You keep saying we,we,we we..... Who TF are we?

SNA, you moron. Who else?

How do you think I got this news, dumbass. A simple search showing AMISOM will leave in 2016, left you utterly shocked and unable to comeback with a reasonable answer. Because that is what you and your government all have, procrastination , procrastination and procrastination. Suffice to say, you are under occupation, for the forcible future. And as we all know, occupied country, is no fit for unity, hence why secession.

I feel so sorry for you. The qabyaalad parasite has devoured most of your logic.

https://www.voanews.com/a/african-union-force-begins-withdrawal-from-somalia/4104674.html

Why would I revive your 23 reply thread, I'd rather beat your ass on this thread with muh qabill pole that was forcibly pulled from your behind.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-dynamics-of-muh-qabiil-syndrome.33581/

Another lame attempt at procrastination using hopes and dreams to keep the masses drugged with illusion of unity, why I'm not surprised

N before Somalia will do this and do that

Another strawman argument. Just cut it out. At least tell me why stability is impossible in Somalia?

Drugged? Sxb, it is you who has been ideologically poisoned, deceived, mislead and misguided by villainous and corrupt politicians into believing this farce called SL.