World Bank approves first loans ($80m) to Somalia in 30 years

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I am a qabilist because I actually care about my people. My qabyaalad is not irrational, like that of most Somalis, but is a tool for the social cohesion necessary for development.

Walahi I would not be bitter if Farmaajo was corrupt enough to funnel that money into irrigation & road projects in Jubaland. I would be totally fine with Puntland losing out on aid if it meant that Gedo was finally getting some infrastructure. The sad thing is that he is a victim of “Xamar Syndrome” like most Marehan politicians, and none of that money is ever leaving Xamar. Kheyre and his boys will however make bank, and Farmaajo will be gone in 2 years. Marehan will blame other Daroods for not supporting him, but as always will not ask him why Gedo has no roads after 60 years of independence.

You will come to realize this when feb 2021 rolls around and Luuq’s only bridge has not been repaired, although the FGS recived hundreds of millions in aid. Rinse & repeat.

SFG getting the money is good even if it doesn't pass Xamar for now. We can work on the corruption aswell. Once steps against corruption are taken we can look at justly dividing the money across the country. Obtaining money is a good first step.

 

[Ferrari]

What corruption are you guys going on about? The reason Dr.Beileh and the FG got to this point is because they've been working hard to get rid of corruption and be transparent. What's done with this will also be closely monitored. Try reading the article maybe.

Even you don't believe the BS you just wrote.

Somalia is full of corruption. Where has all the money that's been given to Somalia over the past decade? Can you point to any social programs funded by Somali governments since shaikh shariif?

 

[Ferrari]

All praises to Allah the almighty who gave us unity and cohesion. As @Ferrari once suggested, perhaps MJs should give a masterclass in how to avoid internal clashes. The trick is to change leadership every 5-6 years. Let beesha be led by a new face, Somalis have an extremely short expiration date. Count how many leaders mjs had in the last decade or so. AY, Cadde, faroole, CCC and now Gaas. In 2019 a new face will emerge, we will all change our dp. We will accept the outcome. While you guys keep on showing the same faces, the same personalities

You guys really should.
Just look at the current events in somalia. Caare and his group are running around in Sland causing havoc, dhulos are murdering each other, mx karbaash each other over small tuulo while they also fight HG who also karbaash each other along clan lines. it's like a champions league group stage, every qabiil is guaranteed to come up against others in the region. in the south, mx karbaash each other in baardheere because reer ugaas sharmaarke think they are better than reer axmeds and talxa.

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I didn't even mention the political disagreements among many clans who do not live together.

Majerteens have managed to coexist not only among each other, but also with others like leelkase, dishiishe, and other laangaabs like carab saalax.

If you guys want federalism implemented across the country, y'all is going to have to send missionaries to spread the secret of living together and sharing lands without karbaashing each other to death every couple weeks.

 

[Ferrari]

Also our towns are inhabited by different sub clans. @Ferrari would be lying if he said OGs are united he himself said Cawliyahan are less onboard with JL.

Maxamud Saleban hegemony =/= unity and cohesion
Your own tol mentioned that leadership rotates between 3 sub clans.

The south is a totally different than PL.

We aren't united.

But you guys are the dumbest darood clan wallahi, by far. I don't like to diss dhulos, but they come second.

There is no city or town in Somalia where we karbaash each other every week and are used by opposition groups as it is the case with dhulbahante(isaaq and MJ). marehana waa cawaan kale. They fight each other in GG when they have a common threat(HG) who have taken many of their lands.

We dont do that, even when cawliyahans disagree with us, they don't come to fight us, and we don't go to fight them.

Fix up waryaada. HG, MJ, Abgaal and MX are the biggest qabiils in Somalia, and all but you guys own self governing maamul, and have enough chips with which they can bargain and make/decline deals.

Why is that? Change your strategies. Somali presidency means nothing in today's Somalia. If anything the qabiil that takes that, unless they also have a maamul of their own, actually has a lot to lose in the process.

 

[embarassing]

Even you don't believe the BS you just wrote.

Somalia is full of corruption. Where has all the money that's been given to Somalia over the past decade? Can you point to any social programs funded by Somali governments since shaikh shariif?

I do, any proof Dr. Beileh is corrupt? or the FG? Im not speaking about the past decade just on the current one and thats based on their transparency and recent gains. I did not say there wasn't any corruption in Somalia, I said his ministry and the FG have been working hard to get rid of it. They want the debts cleared. Its why they've been getting these grants. Read the articles posted, they're gaalo not Somali if that helps.

Give credit where its due, no need to hop on the bandwagon of bashing your own govt for the sake of it.

And this was announced just today

 

[Ferrari]

I do, any proof Dr. Beileh is corrupt? or the FG? Im not speaking about the past decade just on the current one and thats based on their transparency and recent gains. I did not say there wasn't any corruption in Somalia, I said his ministry and the FG have been working hard to get rid of it. They want the debts cleared. Its why they've been getting these grants. Read the articles posted, they're gaalo not Somali if that helps.

Give credit where its due, no need to hop on the bandwagon of bashing your own govt for the sake of it.

And this was announced just today

point to any concrete examples of corruption being purged out of Somalia?

Anyone identified for corruption under farmaajo? Any arrests?

How exactly are they fighting it?

you're strange, u believe anything that comes out of farmaajo and kheyre as the absolute truth, and then you deny having bias. explain?

 

[AarLibaax]

This was announced just today

Wzr Godax Barre

Masha Allah, much good news in one day.

 

[embarassing]

point to any concrete examples of corruption being purged out of Somalia?

Anyone identified for corruption under farmaajo? Any arrests?

How exactly are they fighting it?

you're strange, u believe anything that comes out of farmaajo and kheyre as the absolute truth, and then you deny having bias. explain?

I can't search for all the individual cases but I posted this article before, it lists some of the recent arrests. There have been a lot lately, you'll notice it if you follow the news. And im not trying to be biased but this forum is filled with people who are just anti-progress and take any chance to smear the country. What corruption are people going on about any concrete examples? I don't understand bashing the govt just for the sake of it.

Anway, heres the article;

Recent arrests of high-level public officials in Somalia over graft amid tough anti-corruption talk by the country’s Prime Minister Hassan Ali Khayre have left many observers wondering how far the purge would go and whether the momentum would continue.

The latest graft-related arrests occurred on Saturday when the head of Mogadishu Port Tax Authority Ahmed Ali Samow and 9 other top officials were nabbed for allegedly diverting taxes collected from the busy sea port.

The port arrests have attracted considerable public attention since the sea port is the highest revenue earner for the Federal government of Somalia and is believed to be a hotbed of graft with tax funds ending in private pockets.

On Saturday also, top diplomats of Somalia’s embassy in Khartoum were recalled home amid allegations of graft and mismanagement. A circular from the Foreign Ministry ordered the diplomats back to Mogadishu for “consultations” following a directive from the PM.

The move came barely 10 days after the PM’s visit to Khartoum where he heard complaints about the alleged poor management of the country’s embassy and ordered investigations.

Earlier this month, Somalia’s Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs Mukhtar Mahad Daud was also suspended by the country’s PM and arrested over allegations of fraud and abuse of office following a 4-month probe. The official has denied wrongdoing.

Last month, Dahir Mohamud Nur, the Director of Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) resettlement programme was also arrested for allegedly plundering $84000 public funds that had been donated by the United Nation’s World Food Programme (WFP).

In the same month, the PM dismissed the Religious Affairs Minister Hassan Maalim Hussein less than two months after his appointment without disclosing the reason, fueling public speculations.

Shortly after the sacking, the government announced the decision to end the lucrative monopoly on airlines regarding transportation of thousands of Somali nationals for the Muslim annual pilgrimage (Hajj) to Mecca, opening the market to all travel agencies. There had been public outcry as pilgrims complained of unregulated hajj fees.

However, none of the arrested officials have been charged in court yet but observers note that the arrests are significant since it is the first time anti-graft arrests have been carried out by any Somali government since the country imploded in the early 1990s.

The ongoing graft-related arrests come in the backdrop of increasingly tough talk from Khaire’s administration against graft. Last week, the PM said that government officials, including cabinet ministers, will be held accountable if public resources are lost through corruption.

“I will not allow this country to be governed through corruption. I hereby send a stern message to every Somali national, whether a minister or a member of the public, and who intends to loot the public resources, we will come after you,” PM Khayre said.

Recently, the Prime Minister publicly admitted that graft is still widespread in government institutions and promised to take action to tackle the vice.

“I still believe that the revenue that should be going to government coffers to be used for building health and education facilities and provide other services is being lost due to corruption,” he said.

“If all segments of the population don’t play their role in tackling graft, the government alone can’t do it but if no people in government are arrested and jailed over graft then, we will not be telling the Somali people the truth that we are fighting graft.”

Khayre’s administration has submitted an anti-graft bill to Parliament, which seeks, among other things, to build an independent body to tackle corruption.

The bill has been approved by the lower House of Parliament and is now before the upper House which has conducted public hearings. It is expected that the bill will become law within two months.

By ratcheting up the fight against graft, observers say that the Somali government is seeking to increase government revenue and also hoping to win the confidence of international community to secure lucrative benefits such as debt relief worth billions of dollars owed to the World Bank, Internationally Monetary Fund and others. The country owes an estimated $5.5 billion to international creditors.

Somalia is among countries perceived to have the worst levels of graft according to NGO Transparency International. Last December, the United States government suspended food and fuel aid for most of Somalia’s armed forces over corruption concerns.

However, observers are wondering how far the anti-graft purge would go in the higher echelons of government and whether the tempo of arrests and prosecutions would last.

Among the challenges the war on graft is expected to come face to face with is the clan-based structure of the Somali Federal government where clans often come to the defense of their brethren facing graft allegations and potentially destabilizing the political situation.

Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/art...ar-heats-up-in-somalia-but-how-far-will-it-go