Yemeni Sultan gifts Somali Sultan Arabian horses

[awsaleban667]

Yemeni tahirid Sultan gifts Somali Sultan of Adal Shams ad-Din Muhammed bin Badlay 105 Arabian horses, swords, spears, shields, and many other things. Here Sultan Shams ad-Din is also described as : صاحب الحبشة / Owner of Abyssinia

 

[awsaleban667]

@Yami @xawaadleboi121 @Khaemwaset @Step a side @Three Moons @ibrahym @Garaad diinle @attash @Cartan Boos

 

[awsaleban667]

@Shimbiris

 

[HabarSteven12]

was he karanle?

 

[awsaleban667]

was he karanle?

He was the Sultan of Adal so he was Walashma

 

[Aseer]

He was the Sultan of Adal so he was Walashma

Lol this further destroys the "adalwas arab or habesha" claim.

 

[HabarSteven12]

He was the Sultan of Adal so he was Walashma

Walashma were not Somalis. They were Mawyan Arabs. Asma Giyorgis states that the Walashma spoke Arabic, and they claimed Arabic descent.

 

[niggaibnh]

Yemeni tahirid Sultan gifts Somali Sultan of Adal Shams ad-Din Muhammed bin Badlay 105 Arabian horses, swords, spears, shields, and many other things. Here Sultan Shams ad-Din is also described as : صاحب الحبشة / Owner of Abyssinia
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Wasn’t they Shia ?
Shia-Sunni friendship

 

[Garaad Awal]

His grandfather and his brothers were once in Yemen after the fall of Ifat and landed near Berbera (Siyara) to create the Adal Sultanate.
Remember that the Aw Barkhadle the founder of the dynasty that ruled Ifat & Adal was buried between Berbera & Hargeisa in a Islamic Holy site named after him: Aw-Barkhadle.


Siyara fort ruins:

 

[awsaleban667]

Wasn’t they Shia ?
Shia-Sunni friendship

Nope the Rasulid were Sunni in fact here is what the Shia Zaidis said after the Rasulid sultan died

The greatest king of Yemen, the Muawiyah of the time, has died. His pens used to break our lances and swords to pieces.

 

[awsaleban667]

His grandfather and his brothers were once in Yemen after the fall of Ifat and landed near Berbera (Siyara) to create the Adal Sultanate.
Remember that the Aw Barkhadle the founder of the dynasty that ruled Ifat & Adal was buried between Berbera & Hargeisa in a Islamic Holy site named after him: Aw-Barkhadle.


Siyara fort ruins:
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Yeah Actually his Grandfather Sa’ad Ad Din his father was Badlay who was actually among the 10 sons hosted by Rasulid after the fall of ifat

 

[Garaad Awal]

Walashma were not Somalis. They were Mawyan Arabs. Asma Giyorgis states that the Walashma spoke Arabic, and they claimed Arabic descent.

They were definitely of Somali origin but perhaps their can be a case of them later becoming Arabized/Arabophones. Theirs a relationship between the Isaaq clan and the Walashma dynasty as their is a mythical claim that Yusuf Aw-Barkhadle & Sheikh Isaxaaq were somehow related or connected, and it makes since whenever the Walashma dynasty needed a safe space to regroup it was always the Isaaq heartlands. Also the first capital of Dakkar was most likely at the burial site of Aw-Barkhadle (Begween Berbera & Hargeisa) which Sada Miire found the ruins of a decent sized walled city very close to the graves of Aw-Barkhadle and other Medieval Sheikhs.

The first Somali clan to rise the defend the Sultanate during the time of the Imam/Emir Ahmed bin Ibrahim (who again was subservient to the Walashma Sultan in Saylac), it was none other than the Habar Magaadle Isaaq clan and our leader Axmed Gurey.

Walashma dynasty & the Isaaqs are two dynasties that are intertwined

 

[niggaibnh]

Nope the Rasulid were Sunni in fact here is what the Shia Zaidis said after the Rasulid sultan died

Is it true that thanks to Somali
Either rasulid or zaidis lost power in Yemen cuz we helped mamluks to capture Yemen

 

[awsaleban667]

Walashma were not Somalis. They were Mawyan Arabs. Asma Giyorgis states that the Walashma spoke Arabic, and they claimed Arabic descent.

Nigga every Muslim Ruler one claimed Arab descent even most Somalis today claim to be descendant of Aqil ibn Abu Talib. Even Oromos after they converted pretended to be Ahl Al Bayt

 

[awsaleban667]

Is it true that thanks to Somali
Either rasulid or zaidis lost power in Yemen cuz we helped mamluks to capture Yemen

The Sunni Rasulids were overthrown by the Sunni Tahirids in 1454. In 1516 the Somali Governor of Luhayyah helped the mamluks conquer Yemen from the Tahirids

 

[niggaibnh]

The Sunni Rasulids were overthrown by the Sunni Tahirids in 1454. In 1516 the Somali Governor of Luhayyah helped the mamluks conquer Yemen from the Tahirids

Could mamluks conquer Yemen without us ? I’ve heard the ruler of mamluk would send nice gift to governor of lubayyah so he could impress him

 

[Garaad Awal]

Nigga every Muslim Ruler one claimed Arab descent even most Somalis today claim to be descendant of Aqil ibn Abu Talib. Even Oromos after they converted pretended to be Ahl Al Bayt

Isaaqs claim Ali Bin Abu Talib just like the Walashma dynasty. Only difference is we claim Hussein Bin Ali while they claim a lineage via Hassan Bin Ali

 

[awsaleban667]

Isaaqs claim Ali Bin Abu Talib just like the Walashma dynasty. Only difference is we claim Hussein Bin Ali while they claim a lineage via Hassan Bin Ali

Al Maqrizi and Al Qalqashandi claimed that Walshma descend from Aqil ibn Abi Talib while the chronicle claims they descended from Hassan ibn Ali. It’s weird

 

[Garaad Awal]

Al Maqrizi and Al Qalqashandi claimed that Walshma descend from Aqil ibn Abi Talib while the chronicle claims they descended from Hassan ibn Ali. It’s weird

Because the Walashma were likely flip-flopping larpers. Quraishi lineage was a way of achieving political legitimacy

 

[Riftvalley]

Garaad Jibril, A rebel leader, who arose up against the sultan Uthman of Harar in the 16th century is said to be buried near Sheikh Barkhadle site according to a Harar chronicle . The text also says he wanted to be buried next to a pious Yemeni Sufi Sheikh, which would suggest there are more prominent people buried near the sites of the medieval towns.

Another Somali link to Walashma- the Harla and Dardorti and Kabirtu families of those the Afar:

“There are no written sources related to the history of the region before that date, but, according to genealogies and oral sources, it is possible to trace a brief sketch of the history of the region and the its reflection on the present people of Awsa.5 The introduction of sedentary agriculture in Awsa is attributed to the Haralla group who moved to the region into two different waves of migrations: the first one starting from the 13th-14th c. and the second from the 16th c. following the imām Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm Gāsa. When the second wave of migration reached Awsa, the group had to face the already established power of the first Haralla settled in the region, rulers of the land, and the Arab imāms Dardōra. The latter had replaced the family of Aḥmad b. Ibrāhīm Grañ of Balaw origin and maintained a real power at least from 1628 to 1750, when the last Arab imām, Salmān, was killed by a coalition of Haralla and Mōdayto. But the political power emerging in Awsa, was not able to maintain the historical territory that was previously under the authority of ʻAdal: the main losses were Zaylaʻ, passed under the control of Mokha in 1630, and Harar that, starting from 1647, recognised the authority of independent emirs. Also the two principalities of Tadjoura (Tagórri) and Raḥaytó, just beyond the present Eritrean border, became independent sultanates.6
From 1750 the Ḥaralla Muḥammad Dūs is mentioned in the chronicles with the title of rāʼis, testifying that the political predominance of this group above the other.

The following period is signed by the struggle for the control of the Awaš valley between the two coalitions, the Red and the White. In 1834, with the battle of Darmá, the Modaytó, of the Red coalition, took control over Awsa; this group was originally from the mountainous region north of Obock (Djibuti) and arrived in Awsa at the beginning of the 18th c. and, once they took the power, repeatedly had clashes with the more ancient groups settled in the region.7 It was after the defeat of Darmá and the arising of Maḥ|mmad “Ill|lta”, in 1865, that the group of the Ḥaralla was splitted into two branches: the Dardortí were the responsible of the land irrigation (with the title of baddá-h abbá), while the religious power was reserved to the Kabirto branch of the clan”.

http://www.islhornafr.eu/ReportAwsa2017.pdf