Yemeni Sultan gifts Somali Sultan Arabian horses

[Aurelian]

Yemeni tahirid Sultan gifts Somali Sultan of Adal Shams ad-Din Muhammed bin Badlay 105 Arabian horses, swords, spears, shields, and many other things. Here Sultan Shams ad-Din is also described as : صاحب الحبشة / Owner of Abyssinia
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what is the name of the book?

 

[Maakhri from dhahar]

it was none other than the Isaaq clan and our leader Axmed Gurey.

Habar Magaadle " هبر مچادلي " is not in the Book of Abyssinian Conquests
" كتاب فتوح الحبشة ".

The Habr Maqdi ( Arabic: هبر مقدي ) was a historical Somali confederation that composed of multiple clans such as the Bartire and Yabarre who are considered now apart of the Jidwaaq and come under the Absame Darod branch.

The Habr Maqdi is a historical Somali clan, The prominent subclans of Habar Maqdi are Bartirre and Yabarray subclans who both fought during the Adal-Abyssinian War.

16th century manuscript showing Ahmed Girri Bin Hussein leading Yabarray division of Habar Maqdi The text underlined in red translates to '' The tribe of Yabirray with their leader Ahmed Girri '' .

 

[Khaem]

Walashma were not Somalis. They were Mawyan Arabs. Asma Giyorgis states that the Walashma spoke Arabic, and they claimed Arabic descent.

WE IZZ ARABS

 

[Garaad Awal]

Habar Magaadle " هبر مچادلي " is not in the Book of Abyssinian Conquests
" كتاب فتوح الحبشة ".

Yes it is and we know why you want to deny it Eastern Sanaagian

16th century manuscript showing Ahmed Girri Bin Hussein leading Yabarray division of Habar Maqdi

Habar Maqdi and Habar Magaadle are two different tribes in Futuh. Habar Maqdi was led by Garaad Dawit who brough like 500 troops while Habar Magaadle was led by Axmed Gurey who brought 2200 troops (2k infantry & 200 cavalry)

The text underlined in red translates to '' The tribe of Yabirray with their leader Ahmed Girri '' .

The Futuh mentions the Yabarre as a clan of Habar Magaadle not Habar Maqdi.As deep y-dna testing has shown Somali clans have moved allegiances and/or been absorbed by other tribes.

There’s a reason the Majerteen are not related to other Harti as deep y-dna test has shown and has even shown the Habar Magaadle between ourselves are not related to each other. Most Somali large clans are a confederation of a sort

 

[Garaad Awal]

Yabarre as the Futuh shown are lost Isaaq Habar Magaadle, would love to see y-dna testing from that clan on whether they share any lineages with modern Habar Magaadle

The Habar Maqdi that fought against the Imam and the Sultan are clearly spelled differently

Garaad Dawid of the Habar Magdi being mentioned alongside the 500 troops he brought

Axmed Gurey and the 2.2k Habar Magaadle being mentioned and praised by the Imam for being the first to answer his call for war:

Unlike Eastern Sanaagians Habar Magaadle live in the heartland of the Sultanate and still maintain the grave of the ancestor of our brothers the Walashma dynasty/clan!


The old Harari manuscrips also mentioning the relationship between Habar Magaadle and the Walashma dynasty. The Hararis make the mistake of believing the Imam had some sort of Walashma dynasty ancestry which isn't true but it still shows the underlying sentiments of the existence of a special relationship between the house of Habar Magaadle (Habar Awal,Garxajis,Arap,Ayuub & the lost Yabarre) & the Walashma dynasty.

The first seat/capital of the Adal Sultanate was indeed in Central Somaliland and was probably an important even prior to Islam/Aw-Barkhadle, the Yibir prior to the thorough Islamisation of the area are theorized to once have been tax collecters in the region and considering many of them carry Semitic J-P58 may mean they might have been Ethio-Semites (Harla related??) and even the origin of the name Yibir could be of South Ethio-Semitic origin:

 

[mohammdov]

The Arabs were always the ones who helped us

 

[Garaad Awal]

The Arabs were always the ones who helped us

*Yemenis not Arabs and there's a reason Landers are the ethnic Somalis with the most Yemeni ancestry.

 

[Step a side]

Garaad Jibril, A rebel leader, who arose up against the sultan Uthman of Harar in the 16th century is said to be buried near Sheikh Barkhadle site according to a Harar chronicle . The text also says he wanted to be buried next to a pious Yemeni Sufi Sheikh, which would suggest there are more prominent people buried near the sites of the medieval towns.

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Another Somali link to Walashma- the Harla and Dardorti and Kabirtu families of those the Afar:

“There are no written sources related to the history of the region before that date, but, according to genealogies and oral sources, it is possible to trace a brief sketch of the history of the region and the its reflection on the present people of Awsa.5 The introduction of sedentary agriculture in Awsa is attributed to the Haralla group who moved to the region into two different waves of migrations: the first one starting from the 13th-14th c. and the second from the 16th c. following the imām Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm Gāsa. When the second wave of migration reached Awsa, the group had to face the already established power of the first Haralla settled in the region, rulers of the land, and the Arab imāms Dardōra. The latter had replaced the family of Aḥmad b. Ibrāhīm Grañ of Balaw origin and maintained a real power at least from 1628 to 1750, when the last Arab imām, Salmān, was killed by a coalition of Haralla and Mōdayto. But the political power emerging in Awsa, was not able to maintain the historical territory that was previously under the authority of ʻAdal: the main losses were Zaylaʻ, passed under the control of Mokha in 1630, and Harar that, starting from 1647, recognised the authority of independent emirs. Also the two principalities of Tadjoura (Tagórri) and Raḥaytó, just beyond the present Eritrean border, became independent sultanates.6
From 1750 the Ḥaralla Muḥammad Dūs is mentioned in the chronicles with the title of rāʼis, testifying that the political predominance of this group above the other.

The following period is signed by the struggle for the control of the Awaš valley between the two coalitions, the Red and the White. In 1834, with the battle of Darmá, the Modaytó, of the Red coalition, took control over Awsa; this group was originally from the mountainous region north of Obock (Djibuti) and arrived in Awsa at the beginning of the 18th c. and, once they took the power, repeatedly had clashes with the more ancient groups settled in the region.7 It was after the defeat of Darmá and the arising of Maḥ|mmad “Ill|lta”, in 1865, that the group of the Ḥaralla was splitted into two branches: the Dardortí were the responsible of the land irrigation (with the title of baddá-h abbá), while the religious power was reserved to the Kabirto branch of the clan”.

http://www.islhornafr.eu/ReportAwsa2017.pdf

The date is a bit off. It says that imam’s family was replaced by 1628 but it was a bit later. The family of Gasa of Bale who started the Awsa Imamate were still in power till 1672. They were also waziirs of Harar up to 1647. Afar mudayto took over 1672 onwards.

 

[mohammdov]

Yabarre as the Futuh shown are lost Isaaq Habar Magaadle, would love to see y-dna testing from that clan on whether they share any lineages with modern Habar Magaadle

The Habar Maqdi that fought against the Imam and the Sultan are clearly spelled differently

Garaad Dawid of the Habar Magdi being mentioned alongside the 500 troops he brought
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Axmed Gurey and the 2.2k Habar Magaadle being mentioned and praised by the Imam for being the first to answer his call for war:
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Unlike Eastern Sanaagians Habar Magaadle live in the heartland of the Sultanate and still maintain the grave of the ancestor of our brothers the Walashma dynasty/clan!


The old Harari manuscrips also mentioning the relationship between Habar Magaadle and the Walashma dynasty. The Hararis make the mistake of believing the Imam had some sort of Walashma dynasty ancestry which isn't true but it still shows the underlying sentiments of the existence of a special relationship between the house of Habar Magaadle (Habar Awal,Garxajis,Arap,Ayuub & the lost Yabarre) & the Walashma dynasty.

The first seat/capital of the Adal Sultanate was indeed in Central Somaliland and was probably an important even prior to Islam/Aw-Barkhadle, the Yibir prior to the thorough Islamisation of the area are theorized to once have been tax collecters in the region and considering many of them carry Semitic J-P58 may mean they might have been Ethio-Semites (Harla related??) and even the origin of the name Yibir could be of South Ethio-Semitic origin:

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Even a sheikh named sahal cali He is the awoow of the Reer sahal clan ciise muuse
His grave is in Harar, and according to oral history, he was the one who proposed building walls around the city, and he was the one who ruled the city when the Imam left.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Even a sheikh named sahal cali He is the awoow of the Reer sahal clan ciise muuse
His grave is in Harar, and according to oral history, he was the one who proposed building walls around the city, and he was the one who ruled the city when the Imam left. View attachment 315506

Prior to Menelik's conquest of Harar many of the Somali residents of the city were Habar Magaadle especially Jibriil Abokor. I've personally met many Hararis who claimed different Isaaq clans and knew their subclans.I met Tol Jeclo,Sacad Muuse & Arap Hararis. The Hararis are our brothers & sisters.

 

[awsaleban667]

Yabarre as the Futuh shown are lost Isaaq Habar Magaadle, would love to see y-dna testing from that clan on whether they share any lineages with modern Habar Magaadle

The Habar Maqdi that fought against the Imam and the Sultan are clearly spelled differently

Garaad Dawid of the Habar Magdi being mentioned alongside the 500 troops he brought
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Axmed Gurey and the 2.2k Habar Magaadle being mentioned and praised by the Imam for being the first to answer his call for war:
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Unlike Eastern Sanaagians Habar Magaadle live in the heartland of the Sultanate and still maintain the grave of the ancestor of our brothers the Walashma dynasty/clan!


The old Harari manuscrips also mentioning the relationship between Habar Magaadle and the Walashma dynasty. The Hararis make the mistake of believing the Imam had some sort of Walashma dynasty ancestry which isn't true but it still shows the underlying sentiments of the existence of a special relationship between the house of Habar Magaadle (Habar Awal,Garxajis,Arap,Ayuub & the lost Yabarre) & the Walashma dynasty.

The first seat/capital of the Adal Sultanate was indeed in Central Somaliland and was probably an important even prior to Islam/Aw-Barkhadle, the Yibir prior to the thorough Islamisation of the area are theorized to once have been tax collecters in the region and considering many of them carry Semitic J-P58 may mean they might have been Ethio-Semites (Harla related??) and even the origin of the name Yibir could be of South Ethio-Semitic origin:

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10 Manuscripts vs 1 stop the cope

 

[Garaad Awal]

10 Manuscripts vs 1 stop the cope

You don't want to go down this rabbit hole, there's zero cope, qabyaalad has blinded your rational senses.

 

[Step a side]

Hobat existed during ifat times (1285 to 1415) and supported an alliance with ifat dynasty which was weak and pro ethiopian for many centuries. Thats why hobat and other provincial regions only supported ifat at arms length, it was dominated by a weak urban class of merchant rulers in zeyla with the exception of 1 or 2 great ifat leaders. Only when ethiopians finally sacked zeyla and the ifat leaders fled to yemen did the walashma family of ifat decide to regroup and change their approach. By 1415 ifat was pretty much done for. This was when harar started to grow as a new hub but it was still not a capital yet, even imam mahfuz of karanle was still governing from zeyla though he was originally from harar. Same with Garad Abun who also ruled from Zeila. Only by ahmed gureys time i believe they moved the capital to harar in 1520s

Even a sheikh named sahal cali He is the awoow of the Reer sahal clan ciise muuse
His grave is in Harar, and according to oral history, he was the one who proposed building walls around the city, and he was the one who ruled the city when the Imam left.

This is the Harar list of rulers from Fatah Medinat Harar. After the Imam it was his relative Sultan Umar Diin who led Harar.

 

[mohammdov]

Hobat existed during ifat times (1285 to 1415) and supported an alliance with ifat dynasty which was weak and pro ethiopian for many centuries. Thats why hobat and other provincial regions only supported ifat at arms length, it was dominated by a weak urban class of merchant rulers in zeyla with the exception of 1 or 2 great ifat leaders. Only when ethiopians finally sacked zeyla and the ifat leaders fled to yemen did the walashma family of ifat decide to regroup and change their approach. By 1415 ifat was pretty much done for. This was when harar started to grow as a new hub but it was still not a capital yet, even imam mahfuz of karanle was still governing from zeyla though he was originally from harar. Same with Garad Abun who also ruled from Zeila. Only by ahmed gureys time i believe they moved the capital to harar in 1520s




This is the Harar list of rulers from Fatah Medinat Harar. After the Imam it was his relative Sultan Umar Diin who led Harar.

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I am talking about Amir Nour when he go out for invasion sahal or aw Wariqa As the residents there call it was the one who ruled the city, and one time when Nour was outside the city for an invasion,it was subjected to a raid Then Sahal suggested building a wall around the city. This is what the Harians say.
He was his deputy

 

[Step a side]

I am talking about Amir Nour when he go out for invasion sahal or aw Wariqa As the residents there call it was the one who ruled the city, and one time when Nour was outside the city for an invasion,it was subjected to a raid Then Sahal suggested building a wall around the city. This is what the Harians say.
He was his deputy

Ah yes, deputy makes sense.

 

[Riftvalley]

Yabarre as the Futuh shown are lost Isaaq Habar Magaadle, would love to see y-dna testing from that clan on whether they share any lineages with modern Habar Magaadle

The Habar Maqdi that fought against the Imam and the Sultan are clearly spelled differently

Garaad Dawid of the Habar Magdi being mentioned alongside the 500 troops he brought
View attachment 315493


Axmed Gurey and the 2.2k Habar Magaadle being mentioned and praised by the Imam for being the first to answer his call for war:
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Unlike Eastern Sanaagians Habar Magaadle live in the heartland of the Sultanate and still maintain the grave of the ancestor of our brothers the Walashma dynasty/clan!


The old Harari manuscrips also mentioning the relationship between Habar Magaadle and the Walashma dynasty. The Hararis make the mistake of believing the Imam had some sort of Walashma dynasty ancestry which isn't true but it still shows the underlying sentiments of the existence of a special relationship between the house of Habar Magaadle (Habar Awal,Garxajis,Arap,Ayuub & the lost Yabarre) & the Walashma dynasty.

The first seat/capital of the Adal Sultanate was indeed in Central Somaliland and was probably an important even prior to Islam/Aw-Barkhadle, the Yibir prior to the thorough Islamisation of the area are theorized to once have been tax collecters in the region and considering many of them carry Semitic J-P58 may mean they might have been Ethio-Semites (Harla related??) and even the origin of the name Yibir could be of South Ethio-Semitic origin:

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Sada Mire has a tendency to reach with some of the Semitic and Jewish theories. And old guy telling her Yibir comes from Amhara Gibir, and her publishing it the study without a disclaimer, shows this tendency clearly.

The Rendille have a clans called Iibire who hold the power to both curse and bless, they are also linked to supernatural sticks. Boranas and other Oromos have similar rituals and philosophies. Why ignore all of these possibilities and start linking them to some “ethio semites”? Her own study shows that Barkhadle site was an ancient Waaqist site, with a few hints of Christianity. All the rituals about scared trees etc she mentioned are ancient Cushitic practices. Then, all of a sudden they became possible “Ethio Semitic” tax collectors due some old guys pseudo linguistic claims.

Plus, DNA is not conclusive about their supposed “Yemenite” origin.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Sada Mire has a tendency to reach with some of the Semitic and Jewish theories. And old guy telling her Yibir comes from Amhara Gibir, and her publishing it the study without a disclaimer, shows this tendency clearly.

The Rendille have a clans called Iibire who hold the power to both curse and bless, they are also linked to supernatural sticks. Boranas and other Oromos have similar rituals and philosophies. Why ignore all of these possibilities and start linking them to some “ethio semites”? Her own study shows that Barkhadle site was an ancient Waaqist site, with a few hints of Christianity. All the rituals about scared trees etc she mentioned are ancient Cushitic practices. Then, all of a sudden they became possible “Ethio Semitic” tax collectors due some old guys pseudo linguistic claims.

Plus, DNA is not conclusive about their supposed “Yemenite” origin.

Nothing is conclusive but it’s a plausible theory.

SL needs to be studied heavily as I’m sure we will uncover tons of history that we are currently unaware of from every historical period as far as the first appearances of Cushitic nomads arriving into the Horn of Africa 2000 BCE. SL govt needs to get serious by attracting archeologists and institutions to study SL history and partner with the Ministry of Archeology (once the bum who runs it is fired and Saada Mire’s influence is reduced)

 

[Burqad]

The Rendille have a clans called Iibire who hold the power to both curse and bless, they are also linked to supernatural sticks. Boranas and other Oromos have similar rituals and philosophies. Why ignore all of these possibilities and start linking them to some “ethio semites”? Her own study shows that Barkhadle site was an ancient Waaqist site, with a few hints of Christianity. All the rituals about scared trees etc she mentioned are ancient Cushitic practices. Then, all of a sudden they became possible “Ethio Semitic” tax collectors due some old guys pseudo linguistic claims.

Plus, DNA is not conclusive about their supposed “Yemenite” origin.

Somalis claim Tumals are Turkish and Madhubaan are Indian, we know it’s shameful to oppress our own people in such a way so we turn them into foreigners.

 

[attash]

Prior to Menelik's conquest of Harar many of the Somali residents of the city were Habar Magaadle especially Jibriil Abokor. I've personally met many Hararis who claimed different Isaaq clans and knew their subclans.I met Tol Jeclo,Sacad Muuse & Arap Hararis. The Hararis are our brothers & sisters.

What's the difference between Habar Jeclo and Tol Jeclo, or are they the same clan?

 

[الناخوذة ويكان الزيلعي]

The Sunni Rasulids were overthrown by the Sunni Tahirids in 1454. In 1516 the Somali Governor of Luhayyah helped the mamluks conquer Yemen from the Tahirids

he was not Somali, he was a Hashemite Arab, and his descendants live to this day in Saudi Arabia and Some parts of Yemen