We gotta be brutally honest about Somali bantu discourse. @Ya.dhahay @Sigmundd @Rayaale @Pearl of the Indian Ocean
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”Somali ethnicity is fake”
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Whether they live our lands centuries or not it is not their lands living some else lands for centuries doesn't make it their lands that is not how it worksThey are citizens of the somali state, no?
when do you stop being a guest ? If someone has lived in that land for centuries, shouldn’t they have equal political and social rights as the ’natives’. I don’t think somalis benefit from being this exclusionary tbh
I love the word lamagoodleit has a nice ring to it
somalis are too clannist to ever be led by a minority, nobody is going to give them power in the current system and in the future when we have 1p1v most ppl will just vote for their ownthey will most likely never have considerable political power in Somalia due to their numbers
The lands somali own it didn't become somali cuz somali people live in there centuries it became our lands cuz somali people claim as their territory and lands
Somali lands always be and belongs to patrilineage somali people lands and not foreigners
Also you speareding anti somali by saying you love the word lamagoodle which is not good it is like saying the word jarreer has nice ring to it which it is not so stop it
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If somali bantus leave somalia cadcads will also leave somalia don't be hypocrite
But the only that have to leave and deported from somalia are non somalis that are hatefull and racist towards somali people and those that falsify somali history and if some non somalis commit murder and rape
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Bantu are good people, and very patriotic. Why should they leave and we keep the Cadcads? They are the same. Besides, Cadcad and Bantu are muslim somali citizens who have lived here for centuries, why should Bantu be deported to tuulos in Kenya, Tanzania and Congo because of their origins centuries ago?
EyiPunter
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Sxb I know a lot of Cad Cad people the are good people. I have never meet a Cad Cad person that not also Patriotic. But I seen plenty of bantu people online shit talking Somalis and Somalia to black American when every they get the chance
Exactly, online, to Black AMERICANs. Do you unironically believe that all bantus are coordinating to shit-talk the lamagoodle ayrab invaders? Or is it just confused diaspora children, similar to other incels who have no accomplishments of their own, so they have to resort to attacking others and other people to make them feel good, and always waffle to adheer Tyrone.
I don't think there is anything called cadcad. I have never heard that growing up around Somalis, they see themselves as ethnic Somalis and Somalis saw them as Somalis from what i can tell, they were integrated into the Somali clan system and culture. Intermarried with Somalis. There are individual Somalis from other clans that can be light skinned and skin colour can also vary within a reer xamar households with many being very dark. I don't think we seperate eachother based on skin tone.
They are not really minorities at all. You have clans among them are connected to the major ones and you have ones that act like independent lineages kinda like Sheekhaal. They also share Somali ancestry either from their maternal or paternal side.
Lamagoodle isn't an ethnic term for Somalis either , that distinguish them from supposed ''minorities.'' It's what Southern Hawiye and Raxanweyn nicknamed their Northern counterparts with no pejorative attached to it.
Here is Enrico Cerulli explaining it:
Virginia Luling:
Somali Bantu isn't a real thing either, it was a name applied by UN workers to distinguish them from other Somalis in the 2010s.
But with the Bantu speaking descendants its a bit of a tricky one, there are those who are integrated into the Somali clan system and culture where they just constitute clans within the major ones, and there are those who are more recent that lived a more socially separated life because they lived far into the rural country side from most Somalis inside Somalia up until recently when UNSOM moved them around.
Despite their arrival through slavery(shameful part of our history), there really wasn't any real anti-bantu sentiments and deep mistreatment of them by Somalis. They was actually treated like another family member , the Italian traveler Luigi Roberto in 1890 describes it
This is why there were never any real slave rebellions in Somali society. Somali society wasn't a society that created marginalization in forms of serfs and nobles.
They also had many ways of achieving their freedom and once they did , they were given land, cattle and a wife.
The distinctions made between them and other Somalis was mainly an occupational one, it wasn't one of an ethnic or racial separation.
As far as 0.5 goes and the current powersharing system in FGS. It is rejected by most Somalis and it doesn't reflect Somali culture or sentiments. It discriminates against all clans and groups, it only benefits the elites in suits and their foreign handlers.
They are not really minorities at all. You have clans among them are connected to the major ones and you have ones that act like independent lineages kinda like Sheekhaal. They also share Somali ancestry either from their maternal or paternal side.
Lamagoodle isn't an ethnic term for Somalis either , that distinguish them from supposed ''minorities.'' It's what Southern Hawiye and Raxanweyn nicknamed their Northern counterparts with no pejorative attached to it.
Here is Enrico Cerulli explaining it:
Virginia Luling:
Somali Bantu isn't a real thing either, it was a name applied by UN workers to distinguish them from other Somalis in the 2010s.
But with the Bantu speaking descendants its a bit of a tricky one, there are those who are integrated into the Somali clan system and culture where they just constitute clans within the major ones, and there are those who are more recent that lived a more socially separated life because they lived far into the rural country side from most Somalis inside Somalia up until recently when UNSOM moved them around.
Despite their arrival through slavery(shameful part of our history), there really wasn't any real anti-bantu sentiments and deep mistreatment of them by Somalis. They was actually treated like another family member , the Italian traveler Luigi Roberto in 1890 describes it
This is why there were never any real slave rebellions in Somali society. Somali society wasn't a society that created marginalization in forms of serfs and nobles.
They also had many ways of achieving their freedom and once they did , they were given land, cattle and a wife.
The distinctions made between them and other Somalis was mainly an occupational one, it wasn't one of an ethnic or racial separation.
As far as 0.5 goes and the current powersharing system in FGS. It is rejected by most Somalis and it doesn't reflect Somali culture or sentiments. It discriminates against all clans and groups, it only benefits the elites in suits and their foreign handlers.
Federal Somalia: Not If but How
A significant majority of Somalis favor a federal system of governance, despite serious misgivings. This is according to a research project concluded by HIPS that spun across 5 major cities in Somalia.The majority of those surveyed consider federalism as the best way to achieve a power-sharing...waagacusub.net
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Hotchick12
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it’s a slur created by minorities in somalia to refer ethnic somalis that, apparently it means we came with only 2 cloths to the cities they founded lol
Lol neither are patriotic but cadcads think they deserve to rule over us because of their non-madow admixture. The others are just mad about slavery
Thats a new meaning. Thought it was a corruption of a somali word, and is only getting the "slur" similar to the word J*reer connotations because of its use by foreigners as a insult
There’s a banadiri guy on here who said he would send us back to Ethiopia in one post and then in the next was saying we’re the cuunsuri ones kkk
"We wuz banu hashim and shit, go back to Congo you lama goodle barbarians!"
Meanwhile their origins:
Jarerweyne are maskiin and hardworking people but they aren’t native to Somalia.
And yes the same applies to the mixed breed hindi known as the barwanis.
Anyone who is born in Somalia or assimilated for generations is a native. They have every right to be political participants inside Somalia and also run for presidency.
They are entitled to the same rights and considerations as everyone else.
It's not a slur and its not created by these ''minorities' you speak of. Nor is it a corruption, its hardly ever used any more not even by foreigners. The only place you might see this nickname is in textbooks from the past century. Most people don't even know it.
As far as J-word goes, it was never really used until very recently. It's really isn't a surprise it turned into a slur, it was created as some sort of racial distinguish-er mainly rooted in the hamitic colonial ideology.
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EyiPunter
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They are called also Barowknee good people sxbI don't think there is anything called cadcad. I have never heard that growing up around Somalis, they see themselves as ethnic Somalis and Somalis saw them as Somalis from what i can tell, they were integrated into the Somali clan system and culture. Intermarried with Somalis. There are individual Somalis from other clans that can be light skinned and skin colour can also vary within a reer xamar households with many being very dark. I don't think we seperate eachother based on skin tone.
They are not really minorities at all. You have clans among them are connected to the major ones and you have ones that act like independent lineages kinda like Sheekhaal. They also share Somali ancestry either from their maternal or paternal side.
Lamagoodle isn't an ethnic term for Somalis either , that distinguish them from supposed ''minorities.'' It's what Southern Hawiye and Raxanweyn nicknamed their Northern counterparts with no pejorative attached to it.
Here is Enrico Cerulli explaining it:
Virginia Luling:
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Somali Bantu isn't a real thing either, it was a name applied by UN workers to distinguish them from other Somalis in the 2010s.
But with the Bantu speaking descendants its a bit of a tricky one, there are those who are integrated into the Somali clan system and culture where they just constitute clans within the major ones, and there are those who are more recent that lived a more socially separated life because they lived far into the rural country side from most Somalis inside Somalia up until recently when UNSOM moved them around.
Despite their arrival through slavery(shameful part of our history), there really wasn't any real anti-bantu sentiments and deep mistreatment of them by Somalis. They was actually treated like another family member , the Italian traveler Luigi Roberto in 1890 describes it
This is why there were never any real slave rebellions in Somali society. Somali society wasn't a society that created marginalization in forms of serfs and nobles.
They also had many ways of achieving their freedom and once they did , they were given land, cattle and a wife.
The distinctions made between them and other Somalis was mainly an occupational one, it wasn't one of an ethnic or racial separation.
As far as 0.5 goes and the current powersharing system in FGS. It is rejected by most Somalis and it doesn't reflect Somali culture or sentiments. It discriminates against all clans and groups, it only benefits the elites in suits and their foreign handlers.
There is no such thing as a ''mixed breed'' . They are not a breed, they are not animals. They are bin adan. Human beings just like you
And everyone is mixed if you go back far enough, including all so called ''Ethnic Somalis''.
No they aren't. What the hell.
They’re literally the offspring of two and three different races who arrived recently, yet they’re natives?
Race is not biology. Ancient mix or not, every group is a mix of people who came from elsewhere and intermingled.
Even some of our parents are mix created by a union between people who lived in distant portions of historical inhabited areas.
We are mix that inherit separate portions ancestry from our parents even. We are all a mix.
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