54th Anniversary of the Kacaan

They weren’t only HG, there were multiple clans represented
@Zak12

USC was founded in Italy by Cali wardheegley. Cali wardhiigley (Murusade) led the USC, he was heir to the presidency if Afwayne was to be overthrown, after he died in Rome he was replaced by Ismail Jimcaale (Waceysle) who died shortly after, then leadership went to USC Mogadishu which was headed by Hashi Weheliya (Abakr Murusade) he died too in a bomb attack that killed him and Muse Boqor who were manifesto allies and very important figures that tried to cool down the violence. Then Ali Mahdi took the helm and by then Afwayne was overthrown thus giving Ali Mahdi the ultimate chance to take presidency. This succession of leadership in the group is why Abgaal and Murusade were initially allies, the military group fighting in the regions were mostly HG and XL
 
Mahdi was only elected Somali President, Caydiid led USC chairmanship once, every other chairman before and after was Murusade. USC started off with a Murusade chairman we kept our portion of the pie and when Hawiyes all went off to make their own breakaway splinter groups it was Qanyare who stuck to the original USC name as its chairman well into the 2000s. Check the signatories of Arta and Mbagathi.
 
The point of no return for the civil war was truly when American soldiers massacred Habr Gidir elders in 1993 during a peace talk conference. That idiotic head of the UN Boutros Gali also didn't invite Aidid to negotiations despite becoming the most powerful man in Somalia.
What would the point have been of inviting a mad-man who only wanted to loot and kill? Abdullahi Yusuf wrote in his book that when he and Aidiid were in prison together he used to have to stop Aidiid from eating the soap. Look at Aidiid's son today, Hussein. He is clearly mentally ill and mental illness is hereditary. He inheritied that from his lunatic father.
 

Tiyeglow

A Laandheere always pays his debts
Afweyne assassinated Madaxweyne Sharmarke, on the commands of the Soviets, to gain the position of power given Sharmarke was playing both sides in the Cold War. So his position at the top was never going to be one that had hope (add to that, the slaying of Ulema for going against 1975 Family Law which he *tried* to introduce so much policies that goes against Islam, the Somali way of life (e.g. polygyny, inheritance).

However, I will admit the first decade up to 1977, he was somewhat competent, whether that be Somalis seeing him as the next Sayiid, growing tired of the corrupt civil (democractic) govt, and just hoping for change. He brought in undeniably good policies (1975 Drought Campaign to move those affected to the South, 1974/75 Literacy Campaign which was UN award winning, 1977 WSLF and Somali army had most Western Somalia and had it not been for Cuban & Soviet support, Western Somalia would have been fully incorporated into Somalia).

Post-1977, his reign was a complete and utter disaster. From IMF & World Bank's introduction to Structural Adjustment Programs, him going senile, paranoid and demented post-car crash, divide & conquering guerilla forces, doing a deal with US & Reagan while somehow purporting to Socialist values. Had he stepped aside when the Manifesto Group came along, he would have somewhat been respected, let alone stepping aside post Ogaden defeat. 1988 onwards was the start of total anarchy, 1991 was just its peak. When assessing history, the civil war, by its true definition, began 1978 when SSDF emerged. It was a 15 year civil war (no different than Lebanon's 15 year civil war). The significance of mentioning it was a prolonged 15 year civil war is that it stops the reductionist 'clan fighting' barbaric rhetoric. It was a war fought on power, resources, direction of the nation, vision, etc. Which nearly all wars, yes Western nations included, have fought over. When we reduce it to 'Qabil wars' it firstly removes the blame from Afweyne even though he did instigate it and was the catalyst, but secondly, it makes it seem like Somali political turmoil is something unique and unprecedented. Political turmoil, especially with foreign powers interventing is something extremely common in 20th/21st century.

I didn't even touch on proper the impact that US funding Afweyne drying up when Soviet no longer became a threat and also when they stopped needing to utilise Berbera port for strategic reasons, after gaining the Fatwa by Sheikh Ibn Baz to use Saudi and Gulf base to attack Iraq. Of course Afweyne will go all out on dividing and conquering when his funds dried up and Soviet Union.

Afweyne is no different from any other dictator. Whoever tries to festoon his or any dictator's time with "but he did this while in charge" - the perfect response to them is: Yes, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. When you are in charge of all the resources and power within a nation, there is no doubt at the very least some of your policies, whether directly or indirectly will be successful and useful to the masses, however, that a) doesn't account for all the wickedness and treachery the dictator has done to the people b) how much more could a benevolent leader and a functioning govt do for the people, its innumberable.

My father was in Xalane in the mid 70's. Afweyne came to visit the camp where they housed 17-18 year olds for conscription, which was mandatory then. Afweyne came and they all had to go into salute command and my father always tells us it was racing through his brain should I be a martyr and assassinate him, my father has never called Afweyne by his real name. He found him objetionable, that bitterness partly came from him unrightfully dethroning Sharmarke but also destroying the civic unity that was established by SYL.

As for me, Afweyne and Caydiid were the two who destroyed our nation. The former tore apart the social fabric and the latter ignited it in fire. Yes there were other responsible actors (I actually happened to see Gen Morgan yesterday in Garowe), but those two will be questioned on the day of Judgement for what they did to Somalis and the lasting (negative) impact they have had, which will undoubtedly go on for our lifetime. Xamar would have been a more developed Mombasa, with all groups living together and a rational discussion of where to go next happening. Instead, we are left with a Bantustan-isation, foreign poweres meddling, AS controlling 1/4 of the land, and our name being synonymous with starvation, qaxooti, destitution and being indigents. Subhanallah, where has our Shaaraf gone.

Professor Markus literally summarising & corroborating exactly what I said.
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
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We didn't even have a script for the love of God, literally unlettered barbarians.

All of that was completed with foreign aid. As a matter of fact a democratic Somalia may have recieved more western aid than socialist Somalia. The Kacaan was a failure because the only thing that can keep Somalis united is democracy and consensus. We are not a people fit for dictatorship.

MSB blocked Somalia's path to a natural political equilbrium that could have been reached democratically. The lesson of the Kacaan is: always choose democracy and negotiation over force and coercion.
 

reer

VIP
That's what kills me man, these people act like I'm calling him the Somali Lee Kuan Yew but goddamn, can anyone honestly say with a straight face the Somali people are better off today?

I remember they were praising Farmajo for paying the troops. That's when I knew we were doomed.

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The Blessed Zookeeper, history has truly vindicated you

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