Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed was the greatest president to have conquered Somalia.

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SomaliWadaniSoldier

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Fake news. :mjlol:

Sultan Keenadiid (aun) conquered Mudug before his Sultanate became an Italian protectorate. It was actually your ancestors who wanted direct Italian rule and served as part of the colonial troops (Dubats) to bring the Sultanate down in the 1920s.:drakekidding:



they got italian weapons by kissing the ring first
 

SomaliWadaniSoldier

Weeping for the Nation of 68
Punanis kissing the holy ring in order to receive weapons
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Duchess

HRH Duchess of Puntland, The Viscount of Garoowe
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they got italian weapons by kissing the ring first

More fake news. The Sultan (aun) had no connection to the Italians. He brought an army of Yemeni mercenaries with him but they weren't necessary because your people ran for the desert. I guess their bows and arrows failed them.
 

XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
Omfg, Guleed Farax Jeex (AUN) with his Hiraab soldiers (Hg’s and duduble) overthrowed and chased away kenadiid’s men and his dheg cas masters from Hobyo. If your weak ass f*ck sultanate with dheg cas hadrami musketeers were stronger than a fucking subclan of Sacad, then you would have had a piece of Hobyo or the degaans nearby. But no, HOBYO WAS ONLY DIRECTLY CONTROLLED BY ITALY SOMALILAND. Propaganda so much. Keep crying!!!!
 

Yonis

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Headquarters of the Hobyo Fort Built by Majeerteen Merchants on Conquered habar gidir territory in 1920


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Keep getting mad, the HG were the only qabil that was colonised by another qabil :mjlaugh:


Wallah My ancestors were such great men:wow1:
 

XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
Headquarters of the Hobyo Fort Built by Majeerteen Merchants on Conquered habar gidir territory in 1920


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Keep getting mad, the HG were the only qabil that was colonised by another qabil :mjlaugh:


Wallah My ancestors were such great men:wow1:
Tell me why there is a Italian flag? MEANING ITALIANS HAD HOBYO. Not FUCKING KENADIID. Explain me why the Italian kingdom flag is raised? I know what date this pic is.
 

Yonis

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Tell me why there is a Italian flag? MEANING ITALIANS HAD HOBYO. Not FUCKING KENADIID. Explain me why the Italian kingdom flag is raised? I know what date this pic is.
Dude the italians came in 1920s, before that it was just a protectorate in which they would stay away from the affairs of the Sultanate. In other words they controlled the Sultanate of Hobyo de facto even when it was a protectorate.

Hobyo was conqured by the first Sultan (Yusuf Ali Kenaadid) in 1878. They conquored your land built and entire Sultanate around in after defeating the local habar gidirs, This was long before European imperialism.

Majeerteen Sultanate + the Sultanate of Hobyo controlled territory from Bosaso all the way down to Xaraardheere in South Mudug and leaving civilisation culture and fortresses behind. Completely unparalleled in somali history.

We actually conquered and colonised HGs

Hers something to think about, the second president of Somalia Abdirashid Ali Shermarke who hailed from the Cismaan mahamoud (that is the MJ subclan that inhabit the most northern tip of Somalia) was born in the Xaraardheere district in South mudug. What would bring a cismaan mahamoud who inhabit Bari be doing in Xaraardhere, ill tell you, the same reason white anglo people live in Australia;

you motherfuckers were colonised :chrisfreshhah:
 
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XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
«Italian Somalia, was a colony of the Kingdom of Italy in present-day northeastern, central and southern Somalia. Ruled in the 19th century by the SomaliMajeerteen Sultanate and the Sultanate of Hobyo, the territory was later acquired in the 1880s by Italy through various treaties.«
Wow 3 years of «colonism» yet none of your ilks to be seen in Hobyo. You know whats funny, the italians took your fortresses and used your soldiers as maids, wearing same robes as Kenadiid. Those botton ones. Meaning you are Italian MAIDS!! And the turban looking thing on their heads. :chrisfreshhah::drakelaugh::mjlol::cryinglaughsmiley:
 

Yonis

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«Italian Somalia, was a colony of the Kingdom of Italy in present-day northeastern, central and southern Somalia. Ruled in the 19th century by the SomaliMajeerteen Sultanate and the Sultanate of Hobyo, the territory was later acquired in the 1880s by Italy through various treaties.«
Wow 3 years of «colonism» yet none of your ilks to be seen in Hobyo. You know whats funny, the italians took your fortresses and used your soldiers as maids, wearing same robes as Kenadiid. Those botton ones. Meaning you are Italian MAIDS!! And the turban looking thing on their heads. :chrisfreshhah::drakelaugh::mjlol::cryinglaughsmiley:
Initially, Ali Yusuf Kenadid's goal was to seize control of the neighboring Majeerteen Sultanate, which was then ruled by his cousin Boqor Osman Mahamud. However, he was unsuccessful in this endeavor, and was eventually forced into exile in Yemen. A decade later, in the 1870s, Kenadid returned from the Arabian Peninsula with a band of Hadhrami musketeers and a group of devoted lieutenants. With their assistance, he managed to overpower the local Hawiye clans and establish the kingdom of Hobyo in 1878.[6][7] [8]

In late 1888, Sultan Kenadid entered into a treaty with the Italians, making his realm an Italian protectorate. His rival Boqor Osman would sign a similar agreement vis-a-vis his own Sultanate the following year. Both rulers had signed the protectorate treaties to advance their own expansionist objectives, with Kenadid looking to use Italy's support in his dispute with the Omani Sultan of Zanzibar over an area bordering Warsheikh, in addition to his ongoing power struggle over the Majeerteen Sultanate with Boqor Osman. In signing the agreements, the rulers also hoped to exploit the rival objectives of the European imperial powers so as to more effectively assure the continued independence of their territories.[9]

The terms of each treaty specified that Italy was to steer clear of any interference in the sultanates' respective administrations.[9] In return for Italian arms and an annual subsidy, the Sultans conceded to a minimum of oversight and economic concessions.[10] The Italians also agreed to dispatch a few ambassadors to promote both the sultanates' and their own interests.[9]

However, the relationship between Hobyo and Italy soured when Sultan Kenadid refused the Italians' proposal to allow a British contingent of troops to disembark in his Sultanate so that they might then pursue their battle against the Somali religious and nationalist leader Mohammed Abdullah Hassan's Dervish forces.[11] Viewed as too much of a threat by the Italians, Sultan Kenadid was eventually exiled to Aden in Yemen and then to Eritrea, as was his son Ali Yusuf, the heir apparent to his throne.[12] However, unlike the southern territories, the northern sultanates were not subject to direct rule due to the earlier treaties they had signed with the Italians.[13]

De Facto control by MJ Sultans until the italian regime came

Your Hiraab was nothing but adoon subjects under our control


:hahaidiot::hahaidiot:
 
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XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
Lee Cassanelli in his book, "The Shaping of Somali society," provides a historical picture of the Hiraab Immate. He writes:

"According to local oral tradition, the Hiraab imamate was a powerful alliance of closely related groups who shared a common lineage under the Gorgaarte clan divisions. It successfully revolted against the Ajuran Sultanate and established an independent rule for at least two centuries from the seventeen hundreds and onwards.[1]

The alliance involved the army leaders and advisors of the Habar Gidir and Duduble, a Fiqhi/Qadi of Sheekhaal , and the Imam was reserved for the Mudulood branch who is believed to have been the first born. Once established, the Imamate ruled the territories from the Shabeelle valley, the Benaadir provinces, the Mareeg areas all the way to the arid lands of Mudug, whilst the ancient port of Hobyoemerged as the commercial capital.[1]

Hobyo served as a prosperous commercial centre for the Imamate. The agricultural centres of Eldher and Harardhere included the production of sorghum and beans, supplementing with herds of camels, cattle, goats and sheep. Livestock, hides and skin, whilst the aromatic woods and raisins were the primary exports as rice, other foodstuffs and clothes were imported. Merchants looking for exotic goods came to Hobyo to buy textiles, precious metals and pearls. The commercial goods harvested along the Shabelleriver were brought to Hobyo for trade. Also, the increasing importance and rapid settlement of more southernly cities such as Mogadishu further boosted the prosperity of Hobyo, as more and more ships made their way down the Somali coast and stopped in Hobyo to trade and replenish their supplies.[1]


By the late 19th century, the imamate began to decline. Faced with internal problems, the imamate also faced challenges from the imperialist forces as well as the Zanzibari sultan, and even the Portuguese in the earlier years. By then, a young ambitious rebel of the Majeerteen managed to invade Hobyo with an army of Yemeni musketeers and declared himself the sultan of Hobyo. After few years, the Sultan was disposed and overthrown by a former commander of the Imamate named Guuleed Faarax Jeex who put Hobyo back into the hands of the Imamate for a short period of time .

Soon afterwards, the entire region was snapped up by the fascists Italians and it led to the birth of a Modern Somalia. However, the Hiraab hereditary leadership has remained intact up to this day and enjoys a dominant influence in national Somali affairs."
I can post which emirs controlled Xarardheere iyo Hobyo. You had no upperhand against a subclan of Sacad.
 

Duchess

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Omfg, Guleed Farax Jeex (AUN) with his Hiraab soldiers (Hg’s and duduble) overthrowed and chased away kenadiid’s men and his dheg cas masters from Hobyo. If your weak ass f*ck sultanate with dheg cas hadrami musketeers were stronger than a fucking subclan of Sacad, then you would have had a piece of Hobyo or the degaans nearby. But no, HOBYO WAS ONLY DIRECTLY CONTROLLED BY ITALY SOMALILAND. Propaganda so much. Keep crying!!!!

Guleed who? You know we live in the era of the internet where facts can be easily verified, right? The Sultanate was brought down in the mid 1920s by the Italians and their colonial army. At first they thought their army made of Somalis would do the trick, but the Italians suffered defeat at the hands of Omar Samatar. It wasn't until they brought more troops from their colony in Eritrea that they were finally able to take the Sultanate. In Majeerteenia, they had to use bombs to take the Sultanate. Unlike your fairy tales, everything I've said can be verified and has been written in history books. :childplease:
 

XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
Guleed who? You know we live in the era of the internet where facts can be easily verified, right? The Sultanate was brought down in the mid 1920s by the Italians and their colonial army. At first they thought their army made of Somalis would do the trick, but the Italians suffered defeat at the hands of Omar Samatar. It wasn't until they brought more troops from their colony in Eritrea that they were finally able to take the Sultanate. In Majeerteenia, they had to use bombs to take the Sultanate. Unlike your fairy tales, everything I've said can be verified and has been written in history books. :childplease:
The italians had NOTED DOWN THE existence of Guuleed Faarax Jeex. He was a ex commander of the Imamate. The military power was of HG (Guuleed) and Duduble hence why the military alliance in Hiraab. Also its in Lee Cassanell books who noted down the battles between Kenadiid and Guuled. I can post the lineages and the military mens too. Its all the truth.
 

Duchess

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Dude the italians came in 1920s, before that it was just a protectorate in which they would stay away from the affairs of the Sultanate. In other words they controlled the Sultanate of Hobyo de facto even when it was a protectorate.

Hobyo was conqured by the first Sultan (Yusuf Ali Kenaadid) in 1878. They conquored your land built and entire Sultanate around in after defeating the local habar gidirs, This was long before European imperialism.

Majeerteen Sultanate + the Sultanate of Hobyo controlled territory from Bosaso all the way down to Xaraardheere in South Mudug and leaving civilisation culture and fortresses behind. Completely unparalleled in somali history.

We actually conquered and colonised HGs

Hers something to think about, the second president of Somalia Abdirashid Ali Shermarke who hailed from the Cismaan mahamoud (that is the MJ subclan that inhabit the most northern tip of Somalia) was born in the Xaraardheere district in South mudug. What would bring a cismaan mahamoud who inhabit Bari be doing in Xaraardhere, ill tell you, the same reason white anglo people live in Australia;

you motherfuckers were colonised :chrisfreshhah:

There were many Cismaan Maxamuuds who joined Sultan Keenadiid in Hobyo. Most were from his subsubclan. The creator of the SYL, the creator of Cismaaniya script, and Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke (aun) are examples of Cismaan's born in the Sultanate of Hobyo.
 

Abdalla

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Dude the italians came in 1920s, before that it was just a protectorate in which they would stay away from the affairs of the Sultanate. In other words they controlled the Sultanate of Hobyo de facto even when it was a protectorate.

Hobyo was conqured by the first Sultan (Yusuf Ali Kenaadid) in 1878. They conquored your land built and entire Sultanate around in after defeating the local habar gidirs, This was long before European imperialism.

Majeerteen Sultanate + the Sultanate of Hobyo controlled territory from Bosaso all the way down to Xaraardheere in South Mudug and leaving civilisation culture and fortresses behind. Completely unparalleled in somali history.

We actually conquered and colonised HGs

Hers something to think about, the second president of Somalia Abdirashid Ali Shermarke who hailed from the Cismaan mahamoud (that is the MJ subclan that inhabit the most northern tip of Somalia) was born in the Xaraardheere district in South mudug. What would bring a cismaan mahamoud who inhabit Bari be doing in Xaraardhere, ill tell you, the same reason white anglo people live in Australia;

you motherfuckers were colonised :chrisfreshhah:

Cabdiweli Gaas was born in Dhuusomareeb :lolbron:
 

Yonis

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There were many Cismaan Maxamuuds who joined Sultan Keenadiid in Hobyo. Most were from his subsubclan. The creator of the SYL, the creator of Cismaaniya script, and Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke (aun) are such examples.
Thats my point, direct evidence of our control over their region. :lolbron:
 
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