Abyssinians

[Halimak]

Have you read the Futuh? Wallahi Somalis were peripheral people used as mercenaries in the Ethio-Semitic muslims civil wars and later on the Imam Ahmed from Hubat (In Shewa) invited some clans (Darood,Isaaq & Dir) in the war but we were only one-third of the army. The Imam's wife was also called Bati Delwambara, does that shit sound Somali to you?

He could have easily married a non Somali woman so that he could form aliances and allegiance.

The Adal empire was most definitely Somali led.

 

[Invader]

Have you read the Futuh? Wallahi Somalis were peripheral people used as mercenaries in the Ethio-Semitic muslims civil wars and later on the Imam Ahmed from Hubat (In Shewa) invited some clans (Darood,Isaaq & Dir) in the war but we were only one-third of the army. The Imam's wife was also called Bati Delwambara, does that shit sound Somali to you?

Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi (Somali: Axmad Ibraahim al-Gaasi, Harari: አህመድ ኢብራሂም አል-ጋዚ, Arabic: أحمد بن إبراهيم الغازي‎ ; "the Conqueror"[3]; c. 1506 – 21 February 1543)[4] was an Imam and General of the Adal Sultanate who fought against the Abyssinian empire.[4] With the help of an army mainly composed of Somalis, the Harla people,[5] Afars, Hararis and a small number of Arabs[6] and Ottoman Turks,[7] Imam Ahmad (nicknamed Gurey in Somali, "Gura" in Afar and Gragn in Amharic (ግራኝ Graññ), all meaning "the left-handed")

 

[Invader]

You know you can admire Somalis whilst having respect for others right? I'm not over-praising them, i'm merely being honest.

It wasn't directed to you. I am talking about @Habane

 

[Halimak]

Did you read the Futuh al Habasha or did that come out of your black ass crack?

Why the rudeness?

If you are right, you can show sources.

Khalaas.

 

[Habane]

He could have easily married a non Somali woman so that he could form aliances and allegiance.

The Adal empire was most definitely Somali led.

Read the book and come back to talk.The Imam wasn't a Somali and his brother was a Sultan ruling in modern Addis Ababa area

 

[Invader]

Read the book and come back to talk.The Imam wasn't a Somali and his brother was a Sultan ruling in modern Addis Ababa area

He's Harari.

I'm chatting about the overall population.

 

[Habane]

Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi (Somali: Axmad Ibraahim al-Gaasi, Harari: አህመድ ኢብራሂም አል-ጋዚ, Arabic: أحمد بن إبراهيم الغازي‎ ; "the Conqueror"[3]; c. 1506 – 21 February 1543)[4] was an Imam and General of the Adal Sultanate who fought against the Abyssinian empire.[4] With the help of an army mainly composed of Somalis, the Harla people,[5] Afars, Hararis and a small number of Arabs[6] and Ottoman Turks,[7] Imam Ahmad (nicknamed Gurey in Somali, "Gura" in Afar and Gragn in Amharic (ግራኝ Graññ), all meaning "the left-handed")

f*ck off the wikipedia, we have primary sources from a man who lived during his time, a yemeni chronicler Shihab-uddiin aka Arab Faqih

 

[Octavian]

Read the book and come back to talk.The Imam wasn't a Somali and his brother was a Sultan ruling in modern Addis Ababa area

what about the imams descendants where they somali

 

[Invader]

what about the imams descendants where they somali

He's Harari.

The population was majority Somali.

 

[Halimak]

f*ck off the wikipedia, we have primary sources from a man who lived during his time, a yemeni chronicler Shihab-uddiin aka Arab Faqih

What does this Yemeni say, in terms of his background?

 

[Habane]

He's Harari.

I'm chatting about the overall population.

He wasn't from Harar, he was from Hubat.You don't know anything lol.It's always those that don't know jack shit that tend talk the loudest and with absolute certainty

 

[Marshall D Abdi]

He's Harari.

The population was majority Somali.

Harari my ass ahmed gurey was somali so was the majority

 

[Marshall D Abdi]

He wasn't from Harar, he was from Hubat.You don't know anything lol.It's always those that don't know jack shit that tend talk the loudest and with absolute certainty

Wth is hubat

 

[Halimak]

He wasn't from Harar, he was from Hubat.You don't know anything lol.It's always those that don't know jack shit that tend talk the loudest and with absolute certainty

I was just looking at another thread about him and people provided actual sources that he was indeed Dir. So he was Somali.

 

[Habane]

Wth is hubat

If you don't know he was from Hubat why did you say he was Somali earlier? Y'all a bunch of jokers.Enjoy circle-jerking each other and creating fake glorified we wuz kangz history like the AAs you despise lmfao

 

[Halimak]

"Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn is believed to be born in Zeila during the early Adal Kingdom period which he associated with. Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn is a very famous Somali saint figure. He is believed to be the founder and ancestor of the royal family known as Walashma Dynasty that governed both Ifat Sultanate and Adal Sultanate during the middle ages."

Source: Nehemia Levtzion; Randall Pouwels (Mar 31, 2000). The History of Islam in Africa. Ohio University Press. page. 242.

 

[Habane]

I was just looking at another thread about him and people provided actual sources that he was indeed Dir. So he was Somali.

When I have time, I will take some photos of pages on the Futuh that prove he isn't Somali and his heritage

 

[Octavian]

When I have time, I will take some photos of pages on the Futuh that prove he isn't Somali and his heritage

so the adal was run by somalized ethiopeans

 

[kickz]

I've been delving into the Abyssinian empires and I must say I am very impressed by our neighbours.


But why is it not common knowledge that at point they colonised the Arabian peninsula? Whenever people think of Africa, they think of lands conquered by non African outsiders rather than impressive empires that have at one point conquered non African lands as well.

Please leave this in the general section.

They are mentioned in Surah Fiil, when they tried to destroy Ka'bah in Makkah.

 

[Halimak]

When I have time, I will take some photos of pages on the Futuh that prove he isn't Somali and his heritage

There is obviously a difference of opinion if notable historians like I.M Lewis and Richard Pankhurst believed that he was a Somali from the Dir tribe.

Also, you haven't answered my question, if he wasn't Dir, what was he? Harla? Agew?