Af May May

[Samawada]

Hmmm everything I said I thought was common knowledge.

Where are you guys getting your information about maay?

Wikipedia/www + meeting someone who speaks it.

Makin it up of course tis da Somali way

Fif column lookin ass nikka

 

[RedStar]

af tunni is just a different version of maat, there are a few I believe. Somalis call things accents af, so I think that's where some of the confusion lies. Example af abgaal, clearly just maxa tiri but if you didn't know you would think abgaals have they're own language.

I'm pretty sure accent is lahjad in Somali. I'm speculating here but doesn't it ring bells when Tunnis who have a long history in the south and the Geledi speak a different language from the rest of Somalis? Many people were Somalized by the Ajuuraan between the 13th-17th century.

@Samawada, I wikied Af-May lol hence why I asked @miski if May and Tunni are similar. The Af-May wiki page mentions a Somali linguist and scholar who also claims that it is a separate language from Maxa tiri. I stand with him so I'll see what he wrote about Af-May and get back to you two.

 

[Bahal]

Fif column?

 

[John Michael]

Yes fif column homey.

 

[Bahal]

Elaborate

 

[John Michael]

Spoiler: Gross and naughty

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@Bahal

 

[Bahal]

Why u sound like u got a stake in da witchdoctor game?

Family bidness?

 

[RedStar]

af tunni is just a different version of maat, there are a few I believe. Somalis call things accents af, so I think that's where some of the confusion lies. Example af abgaal, clearly just maxa tiri but if you didn't know you would think abgaals have they're own language.

Book: Culture and Customs of Somalia
Author: Mohamed Diiriye Abdullahi

 

[John Michael]

Book: Culture and Customs of Somalia
Author: Mohamed Diiriye Abdullahi

Load of clap trap. I know tunni people this what I've been told for the horses mouth. Don't worry about it you're ethiopian anyways.

 

[RedStar]

Load of clap trap. I know tunni people this what I've been told for the horses mouth. Don't worry about it you're ethiopian anyways.

I'm not talking about the Tunni alone, but the Af-May speaking people in general... I'm biased and I'd rather believe a Somali scholar tbh *shrugs*

Let us just agree to disagree.

Don't worry about it you're ethiopian anyways.

f*ck Ethiopia
I thought we were cool though

 

[John Michael]

I'm not talking about the Tunni alone, but the Af-May speaking people in general... I'm biased and I'd rather believe a Somali scholar tbh *shrugs*

Let us just agree to disagree.



f*ck Ethiopia
I thought we were cool though

'Somali scholars' arent good enough. What is this guys background, is he a linguist is he fluent in both?

Here are some short videos from a linguist who speaks both Maxa and maay.



There's also a very interesting thread on somnet about it, very informative. I'll pm you the link if you want.

 

[RedStar]

'Somali scholars' arent good enough. What is this guys background, is he a linguist is he fluent in both?

Here are some short videos from a linguist who speaks both Maxa and maay.

You knock down a Somali scholar who doesn't express your narrative then post another one who does
I'd rather use Somali professors as references instead of Andrzejewski, Lewis and et cetera.
What are Mansur's credentials bal?

According to Abdullahi's wiki page, he holds a masters degree and a Ph.D. in linguistics from the University of Montreal, specialising in the Afro-Asiatic languages. Not much info about him out there
I'm not very knowledgeable on this topic myself, and I'm deliberately being stubborn because you haven't given us enough evidence that Af-May is the original Somali language.

There's also a very interesting thread on somnet about it, very informative. I'll pm you the link if you want.

Sure, I'll have a look it. Send it

 

[Geeljire]

'Somali scholars' arent good enough. What is this guys background, is he a linguist is he fluent in both?

Here are some short videos from a linguist who speaks both Maxa and maay.



There's also a very interesting thread on somnet about it, very informative. I'll pm you the link if you want.

Naw this guy is a Psuedo Professor, he writes all kinds of unsubstianted nonsense about somali history. He is much more of a liar than an actual scholar/intellectual. No Different than Eno and Burhan. The contempt they have for the larger Somali clans and Somali culture is ridicoulus.

 

[John Michael]

Naw this guy is a Psuedo Professor, he writes all kinds of unsubstianted nonsense about somali history. He is much more of a liar than an actual scholar/intellectual. No Different than Eno and Burhan. The contempt they have for the larger Somali clans and Somali culture is ridicoulus.

He's a linguist, I'm going to trust someone who's fluent in both dialects over someone who is only familiar with one. If you watched his video eno says its a different language and he disagrees. Maay is not qualified enough to be its own language according to linguists, not just this professor.

Eno wants to usurp maay as a Bantu language and mans our disagrees, you have more in common with eno than you think. As far as biases you clearly have one against D&M, why I don't understand?

 

[Geeljire]

He's a linguist, I'm going to trust someone who's fluent in both dialects over someone who is only familiar with one. If you watched his video eno says its a different language and he disagrees. Maay is not qualified enough to be its own language according to linguists, not just this professor.

Eno wants to usurp maay as a Bantu language and mans our disagrees, you have more in common with eno than you think. As far as biases you clearly have one against D&M, why I don't understand?

There exist many somali linguists who speak Maay Maay whoop dee doo there is nothing special about it, so you dont have to reiterate it
Plus The Butthurt Bantu Prof is not even in the vidoes you posted. Post the video where he argues with Eno.

I dont have anything against Digil and Mirifle i recognize them as fellow somalis and fellow country men. I think Af Maay is a somali dialect with differences mimicking the relations between Mandarin and Cantonese. I also dont think there is no relations with oromo other than it being a Cushitic language. But to say that Af Maxa tiri is less pure and less original because of more Arabic loan words is ridicoulus.

It's just this Professor trys make bantus an indigenous people in Somalia that have a claim to our land & resources. This is crazy walahi and there is no proof of this. Bantus is in Somalia came in 1800 arab slave trade.



He also attacks somali identity,clans structure and culture. Are you sure this dude is not bantu? He sure is suicidal if he isnt

 

[nambarA]

But to say that Af Maxa tiri is less pure and less original because of more Arabic loan words is ridicoulus.

Af Maay also has many (if not as many) Arabic loan words as af Soomaali.

 

[Geeljire]

Shes speaking af May may lol and doesn't even know what Somali is probably

Thats a false title btw . This is not Af May May she is speaking This is some Bantu bravacoo mixed shit which the Bantus call Af Orgie. Very Misleading.

@RoobleAlWaliid @miski @Samawada @IntensiveCareUnit @Duchess @Shamis @Amun

Here listen to this, its sounds just like Af Maxa Tri with a twist. I could i actually some of it.

This is what true Af Maay Sounds like

Whats funny about it even tho a Af Maxa speaker usually has a hard time following Af maay. The Af Maay speaker can understand the Af Maxa tiri perfectly sometimes.