An Oromo guy tells Somalis the truth and how they see Somalis

[Grimmer]

Garre are one of the oldest Somali clans

Yeah bro this guy a month ago didn’t even know what Garre konfur was he makes up new shit every time acting like he knows what he’s talking about.

 

[GALAN]

Bro at this point write your own book lol, you came up with a bunch of crazy theories. Ima need sources for everything you said as well you can DM them to me. Bro said Garre were pagan along with the gallas, and then said the ones in LS are not the same people as the one in Ethiopia. You do know garre started east and then expanded west. Why isn’t there an Oromo lineage for garres? The ones in afgooye have the same lineage as the ones that live as far as negelle.

when did I say Garre were pagan when did I say I do not know what Garre konfur is. you've took what I said out of context I meant what is Af Garre because you guys were denying it was Af Oromo or Af Elay which in the end turned out to be Elay.

Negelle is not inhabited by the Garre, and the Garre are isolated from Negele by the Arussi, and Borona.

the Oromo lineage for Garre is Borona. adress why they speak Afaan Oromo? also how come they have Oromo tribe names.

 

[Aseer]

The optics look bad tho.

You see if they were gaalo I would be full support but I’m scared that it would incite the wrath of Allah when two Muslim nations massacring each other.

It would have to be a clear cut defensive war and we couldn’t go overboard with it.

Being Muslim saved them.

assimilate them no need to massacre cause they muslims majority of them were lost somali clans so it wont be hard.

 

[Grimmer]

when did I say Garre were pagan when did I say I do not know what Garre konfur is. you've took what I said out of context I meant what is Af Garre because you guys were denying it was Af Oromo or Af Elay which in the end turned out to be Elay.

Negelle is not inhabited by the Garre, and the Garre are isolated from Negele by the Arussi, and Borona.

the Oromo lineage for Garre is Borona. adress why they speak Afaan Oromo? also how come they have Oromo tribe names.

Af-Garre dhoog(af-karre) is a different language. Afaan Garre is oromo, Somali, and af-karre. But there are number of reasons, the borana ruled the garre in that region for a long time which is why they speak that language. Another reason is we used to trade with you guys and the language of trade was Oromo. Lastly, you do know Garre are bilingual they speak Somali as well. What oromo tribe names are you talking about? 100% no doubt there are oromo in the clan, there are subclans of oromos in garre. Can I see the lineage you are talking about. I’ve never met a Garre with borana lineage in my life. The gurage, akisho, and Karanle have at one point considered you guys Oromo Kin. Never in history have the Garre considered you guys kin. We’ve fought for centuries over land, we started east went over west we know majority if not all oromos started in the west.

 

[Grimmer]

when did I say Garre were pagan when did I say I do not know what Garre konfur is. you've took what I said out of context I meant what is Af Garre because you guys were denying it was Af Oromo or Af Elay which in the end turned out to be Elay.

Negelle is not inhabited by the Garre, and the Garre are isolated from Negele by the Arussi, and Borona.

the Oromo lineage for Garre is Borona. adress why they speak Afaan Oromo? also how come they have Oromo tribe names.

As far as negelle, I wasn’t claiming that land, I meant the camel herders who go that deep into borana land (if they even survive) have the same lineage as the ones who live in LS.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Soomaali waa kan walaalkii madax kaga istaaga
He didn't lie.
The Oromo have become dominant in Ethiopia. This is something the Somalis do not understand yet They will be the dominant race in the Horn of Africa for several decades
While the Somalis are tribes, it is difficult to consider them a single race, even while the Oromo, 50 million united, have a rich land.

you are right bro and he is totally battering that Reer Wuqoyi guy in debate style.

As Somalis we have fallen from grace walahi oo bilahi, may allah bring back the proud Somalis.

 

[GALAN]

As far as negelle, I wasn’t claiming that land, I meant the camel herders who go that deep into borana land (if they even survive) have the same lineage as the ones who live in LS.

you still cant explain to me how there its 4 different Garre why the majority speak Afaan Oromo.

Negelle is not borona land my freind it is Guji.

 

[GALAN]

The only reason the ones speaking oromo started claiming Somali after 77 is because Siad Barre gave almost all Somali Abo clans fake lineage, and wanted to claim 60 percent of oromos are somali. for the Guji he gave Kabalah Borona he gave Cali madaxweyne for the Hararghe he gave Qaldho, and Ali madaxweyne, for Canfar he even attempted to make them Mdaxweyne aswell, and for Garre he gave a mixture.

Garre is Tuuf, and Quran how can one be Dir, and the other something else?.

There is Oromo tribe names in the Garre of Kenya, and Ethiopia they also practise oromo traditons in Somali culture one can marry his paternal uncle, and maternal uncles daughter, however in Garre and Oromo culture a Tuuf can not marry a Tuuf and has to marry a Quran.


they now want to became somali mostly because of the fact that they have been called Borona most of there life in ET, and KY and now seek independence where they found through becoming somali similarly to the Gabbra who are slowly becoming somali.

but I can agree the Elay ones are not oromo.

 

[Khaem]

The only reason the ones speaking oromo started claiming Somali after 77 is because Siad Barre gave almost all Somali Abo clans fake lineage, and wanted to claim 60 percent of oromos are somali. for the Guji he gave Kabalah Borona he gave Cali madaxweyne for the Hararghe he gave Qaldho, and Ali madaxweyne, for Canfar he even attempted to make them Mdaxweyne aswell, and for Garre he gave a mixture.

Garre is Tuuf, and Quran how can one be Dir, and the other something else?.

There is Oromo tribe names in the Garre of Kenya, and Ethiopia they also practise oromo traditons in Somali culture one can marry his paternal uncle, and maternal uncles daughter, however in Garre and Oromo culture a Tuuf can not marry a Tuuf and has to marry a Quran.


they now want to became somali mostly because of the fact that they have been called Borona most of there life in ET, and KY and now seek independence where they found through becoming somali similarly to the Gabbra who are slowly becoming somali.

but I can agree the Elay ones are not oromo.

Based Siad Barre. Don't be mad madaxweyn was playing oromos at their own game.


"Galla are actually the lost tribe of Somalia therefore 2/3 of Ethiopia belongs to us" - Siad barre, 1977 United nations Council

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Based Siad Barre. Don't be mad madaxweyn was playing oromos at their own game.

Siad Barre for all his faults was pushing Somali interest in the Horn and the world, he was very pro-cushetic call it soft power if you want.

But that was back when we were powerful nation, today we should be more careful with Oromo we don't know their intentions.

 

[Khaem]

Siad Barre for all his faults was pushing Somali interest in the Horn and the world, he was very pro-cushetic call it soft power if you want.

But that was back when we were powerful nation, today we should be more careful with Oromo we don't know their intentions.

Back then Somalia sent weapons and actively funded west Somalia millitia. Siad barre pushed some bizarre hotep ideology of Somali abo to claim eastern oromo. That's where the niggas on here learned from. At one point even Hararis were pushing for Somaliweyn. Let alone oromos. The horn was crazy just 50 years ago.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Back then Somalia sent weapons and actively funded west Somalia millitia. Siad barre pushed some bizarre hotep ideology of Somali abo to claim eastern oromo. That's where the niggas on here learned from. At one point even Hararis were pushing for Somaliweyn. Let alone oromos. The horn was crazy just 50 years ago.

Yeah the so called Somali abos were actually Somali Gerri Kombe, Abaskul and other Dir and Hawiyo clans, with a springle of eastern Oromo primary Arsi tribe. But the entire project was to destabalize and create new government in Ethiopia, the Somali Abo even included Habeshis.

Ethiopia did something similar to us, where do you think Federalism come from ? it was initially us who pushed for Federalism in Ethiopia and they eventually adopted it, but when the government fell the Ethiopian government we created pushed federalism right back at us lol.

regional federalism doesn't even suit Somalis, we break down into clans not ethnic blocks, decentralization I support but it should be more district centric instead of the provinces which our current federalism is based on.

 

[Grimmer]

The only reason the ones speaking oromo started claiming Somali after 77 is because Siad Barre gave almost all Somali Abo clans fake lineage, and wanted to claim 60 percent of oromos are somali. for the Guji he gave Kabalah Borona he gave Cali madaxweyne for the Hararghe he gave Qaldho, and Ali madaxweyne, for Canfar he even attempted to make them Mdaxweyne aswell, and for Garre he gave a mixture.

Garre is Tuuf, and Quran how can one be Dir, and the other something else?.

There is Oromo tribe names in the Garre of Kenya, and Ethiopia they also practise oromo traditons in Somali culture one can marry his paternal uncle, and maternal uncles daughter, however in Garre and Oromo culture a Tuuf can not marry a Tuuf and has to marry a Quran.


they now want to became somali mostly because of the fact that they have been called Borona most of there life in ET, and KY and now seek independence where they found through becoming somali similarly to the Gabbra who are slowly becoming somali.

but I can agree the Elay ones are not oromo.

Wallahi you are crazy, everything you’ve said about Garre you’ve made up.

 

[Grimmer]

The only reason the ones speaking oromo started claiming Somali after 77 is because Siad Barre gave almost all Somali Abo clans fake lineage, and wanted to claim 60 percent of oromos are somali. for the Guji he gave Kabalah Borona he gave Cali madaxweyne for the Hararghe he gave Qaldho, and Ali madaxweyne, for Canfar he even attempted to make them Mdaxweyne aswell, and for Garre he gave a mixture.

Garre is Tuuf, and Quran how can one be Dir, and the other something else?.

There is Oromo tribe names in the Garre of Kenya, and Ethiopia they also practise oromo traditons in Somali culture one can marry his paternal uncle, and maternal uncles daughter, however in Garre and Oromo culture a Tuuf can not marry a Tuuf and has to marry a Quran.


they now want to became somali mostly because of the fact that they have been called Borona most of there life in ET, and KY and now seek independence where they found through becoming somali similarly to the Gabbra who are slowly becoming somali.

but I can agree the Elay ones are not oromo.

Bro what are you talking about, tuufs actually prefer to marry each other over quranyows. Where are you getting this shit from?

 

[GALAN]

Siad Barre for all his faults was pushing Somali interest in the Horn and the world, he was very pro-cushetic call it soft power if you want.

But that was back when we were powerful nation, today we should be more careful with Oromo we don't know their intentions.

Oromo intention is to take back what Siad took from us. now you will see 60 percent of Hararghe claiming Somali.

 

[GALAN]

Bro what are you talking about, tuufs actually prefer to marry each other over quranyows. Where are you getting this shit from?

2008 I was at Hudet this is what they told me wallahi.

 

[Grimmer]

you still cant explain to me how there its 4 different Garre why the majority speak Afaan Oromo.

Negelle is not borona land my freind it is Guji.

There isn’t 4 free ethnic groups, chad Garre hasn’t been proven at all it’s just a thing garres do seem more landheere lol the people of chad playing a long. There’s no such thing as Elay Garre bro there are a few Garre who who joined their clan the same way they’re are Garre in tuuni and bajuns. Lastly Garre Oromo I don’t know what this means but I already told you borana conquered garres in gedo and before that we used to do trade in Oromo. Garres everywhere share the same lineage.

 

[Khaem]

Oromo intention is to take back what Siad took from us. now you will see 60 percent of Hararghe claiming Somali.

What did Siad barre take from you? Hararghe was Somali already. Genetic studies prove they're all mostly of Somali stock. Did and Hawiye clans still live there like us Ciise. Many of the Oromo clams there still retain their Somali lineages and their elders will recite them to you. What exactly did Siad take from galla you didn't already take from us?

You have no original land beyond southern Ethiopia. Everything else is simple assimilated. That's why western oromo are orthodox, wear habesha kemis ect. Eastern oromo in Somali lands like hararghe and bale wear Somali clothes like Dirac and Guntiino, practice islam, claim Somali lineages and are genetically Somali. You are not a real ethnicity. Oromos beyond Borona are just a group project.

 

[Grimmer]

2008 I was at Hudet this is what they told me wallahi.

Wallahi billahi o tallahi majority of tuufs marry tuufs and quranyows marry quranyows trust me. The reason for this is tuuf are gardheere samaale, they are also a little more tolerant of oromos. While quranyow claim they are dir and actually do not like oromos. Tuufs call quranyow fake Garre while quranyow call tuufs Oromo.

 

[GALAN]

I have not vi

There isn’t 4 free ethnic groups, chad Garre hasn’t been proven at all it’s just a thing garres do seem more landheere lol the people of chad playing a long. There’s no such thing as Elay Garre bro there are a few Garre who who joined their clan the same way they’re are Garre in tuuni and bajuns. Lastly Garre Oromo I don’t know what this means but I already told you borana conquered garres in gedo and before that we used to do trade in Oromo. Garres everywhere share the same lineage.

ok lets say the Borona conquered Gedo again the Adal sultanate conquered as far as Sudan how come they sudanese dont speak somali. you are making up your own narrative bro.