Anarchism in Somalia

[Zak12]

Ethiopia was attempting to oppress Ogaden and wanted to annex more Somali territories, going as far as claiming it in front of the UN.

Siad Barre actually tried to negotiate with them multiple times on a better deal and more autonomy for the region to no avail. Infact the government was not keen on going to war for Ogaden and concentrated heavily on domestic affairs.

“𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘌𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘪𝘯 1974 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘵 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘦𝘭𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘚𝘪𝘢𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘧𝘦𝘭𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘸-𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘺 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦-𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥-𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬𝘴 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘖𝘨𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘯. 𝘏𝘪𝘴 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘩𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘢𝘴𝘮 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘤𝘬𝘭𝘺 𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥, 𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳, 𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘣𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘌𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵”.
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We spoke a bit about this in another thread: you can check that out there is twitter thread that goes into what led up to the Ogaden war.



Heck when Abyi Ahmed proposed a new direction and cooperation, guess who extended their arm in support of it, it was Eritrea and Somalia, only for him turn around and betray that by his threats to claim sea access. Heck people in Ogaden put down their arms in exchange for more freedom and self governance as region in Ethiopia and you can see that they had no expansionist aspirations and wanted to focus on developing their region with full cooperation. While the Ethiopian groups like Amhara, Oromo and Tigray are fighting for the right to rule over other people and are genociding eachother and Abyi Ahmed is fighting to extend an Oromo dominance as his high ranking officials have come out to claim.

Eritrea and Somalia were cursed with the worst neighbor in human existence. Ethiopia continue to play a role of destabilizing Somalia while raging a war against their own people.
It's all the more problematic when you realize how much of this is rooted in a continuing historical trend and ideology.

"The army had been soundly defeated by Ethiopia in 1964"

Didn't both sides claim victory here?

 

[Idilinaa]

"The army had been soundly defeated by Ethiopia in 1964"

Didn't both sides claim victory here?

They did but the Kacaan admin that took over in 1969 saw it as a loss, when in reality Ethiopia was actually forced into a seize fire and was humiliated by a newly formed Somali army that was not aiming to take back Ogaden but only protect it's borders.

Their perfomance was so bad in that war that they called in Isreal to train them in case of future battles.

 

[Galool]

If i were to sum up our downfall , it is the situation we were born into. We were born as an Islamic state connected to the middle eastern political and cultural core , that has traditional been seen as ideological opponents of the west and with a hostile genocidal Christian enemy nation that has been an ally of the west and a colonial puppet extension of it.
The eastern countries we are geo-politcally connected to are not very useful allies and have compromised leadership.

That's really what it all boils down to. It's not about which systems we use or our incapability of building functional government.

JazakAllah khayr sister!

This is the simple fact that a lot of Somalis especially on this forum still fail to grasp.

They go around in circles repeating UN or western government propaganda about what went wrong and continue going around in circles in confusion.

The simple fact is Somalia, like some other Muslim countries has been targeted for destruction and is kept weak and divided as a matter of policy by western countries and the zionists using many of its puppets. You can see some parallels in other Muslim nations.

In fact Somalia specifically with only a couple others has been attacked the most.

It should come as no surprise as a Muslim as Allah SWT revealed shaytaan and the kuffars hatred for Islam and Muslims to us long ago. Studying history and current/recent events make this abundantly clear.

I really do appreciate your informative posts about history and politics, you are one of the best posters on the forum sister jazakAllah khayr!

 

[Idilinaa]

JazakAllah khayr sister!

This is the simple fact that a lot of Somalis especially on this forum still fail to grasp.

They go around in circles repeating UN or western government propaganda about what went wrong and continue going around in circles in confusion.

The simple fact is Somalia, like some other Muslim countries has been targeted for destruction and is kept weak and divided as a matter of policy by western countries and the zionists using many of its puppets. You can see some parallels in other Muslim nations.

In fact Somalia specifically with only a couple others has been attacked the most.

It should come as no surprise as a Muslim as Allah SWT revealed shaytaan and the kuffars hatred for Islam and Muslims to us long ago. Studying history and current/recent events make this abundantly clear.

I really do appreciate your informative posts about history and politics, you are one of the best posters on the forum sister jazakAllah khayr!

I remember that video saw it long time ago, thank you for reminding me. It will come in handy.
@EritreanPost_ This post covers Melez Zenawi that bug of a man's efforts to destabilize Somalia and keep it weakened:

Read this study it breaks down US involvement and destabilizing efforts in Somalia and helping to aid in it's destruction: They did exactly as that US General said.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/03063968231155358

The United states even launched Economic Warfare on Somalia:

The waged physical and ideological warefare on Somalia in service of Ethiopia

 

[Galool]

I remember that video saw it long time ago, thank you for reminding me. It will come in handy.
@EritreanPost_ This post covers Melez Zenawi that bug of a man's efforts to destabilize Somalia and keep it weakened:

Read this study it breaks down US involvement and destabilizing efforts in Somalia and helping to aid in it's destruction: They did exactly as that US General said.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/03063968231155358

The United states even launched Economic Warfare on Somalia:

The waged physical and ideological warefare on Somalia in service of Ethiopia

Yes, I recently watched this video on the era of CIA backed warlords fighting the Islamic Courts. They lost and had no support, everyone knew they were working for the west. It is very informative.