Ancient eygptians, pastoral neoltihci and ev-12

You can go on Vahaduo and check the distances, they’re closest to Ethiopians and Eritreans. That Ethio Semitic and “Omotic” ancestry helps actually 🤣
Your probably running the samples wrong.
Ask yourself if the pastoral neolthic individuals were cushites and so was everybody in the horn before migrations from southern arabia. How it would it make sense for them to have ancestry closer to ethiopans and Eritreans who are semetic shifted cushites ?
 
Again the problem with this is that we know that the youngest samples of the pastoral neolthic are less closer to somalis because they absorbed local ancestry . But your saying that the younger pastoral neolthic samples somehow absorbed local ancestry but that made them closer to somalis?
What’s hard to understand about early pastoralists being closest to Ethios/Eris?
Not due to a direct connection but by simply having more Levantine related ancestry/a similar ratio of Eurasian to SSA ancestry.
 
Your probably running the samples wrong.
Ask yourself if the pastoral neolthic individuals were cushites and so was everybody in the horn before migrations from southern arabia. How it would it make sense for them to have ancestry closer to ethiopans and Eritreans who are semetic shifted cushites ?
You are free to run the samples yourself, go right ahead and share the results with us.

It makes sense because the “Semites” that settled in Eritrea and Ethiopia were largely Natufian + Bronze Age Levantine, the bulk of the Eurasian ancestry in the early pastoralists is Natufian/BA Levantine like.

Are you a FOB? No shame in that ofc just curious, you type like one so that sparked my curiosity.
 
What’s hard to understand about early pastoralists being closest to Ethios/Eris?
Not due to a direct connection but by simply having more Levantine related ancestry/a similar ratio of Eurasian to SSA ancestry.
Do we have more than two samples showing this? I get what you are saying but my issue is that these tools are all just regression analysis based on statistical methods dressed up as something else. No different to econometrics. I don’t think most people here understand that. If we have such tiny sample sizes how can you say what they represent?
 
You are free to run the samples yourself, go right ahead and share the results with us.

It makes sense because the “Semites” that settled in Eritrea and Ethiopia were largely Natufian + Bronze Age Levantine, the bulk of the Eurasian ancestry in the early pastoralists is Natufian/BA Levantine like.

Are you a FOB? No shame in that ofc just curious, you type like one so that sparked my curiosity.
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You are free to run the samples yourself, go right ahead and share the results with us.

It makes sense because the “Semites” that settled in Eritrea and Ethiopia were largely Natufian + Bronze Age Levantine, the bulk of the Eurasian ancestry in the early pastoralists is Natufian/BA Levantine like.

Are you a FOB? No shame in that ofc just curious, you type like one so that sparked my curiosity.
No not all. I was born in the good old USA. What about my typing would make you think I was a fob ?

But the reason I said it doesn't make sense is simple. Even if we accept the assumption that the cushited were more naftufian shifted before they left eygpt. These people would have had to travel through sudan to reach the part of Kenya there located in. Yet they still remained that heavily naftufian shifted ? Doesn't that seem unlikely to you ?
 
Do we have more than two samples showing this? I get what you are saying but my issue is that these tools are all just regression analysis based on statistical methods dressed up as something else. No different to econometrics. I don’t think most people here understand that. If we have such tiny sample sizes how can you say what they represent?
No we only have 2 samples, qpadm as far as I am aware does not use regression analyses.
We also have physical data from Nubia and we see a trend towards a more Sub Saharan phenotype and the earliest Nubians like the A group were almost indistinguishable from predynastic Upper Egyptians. I posted a few charts earlier in the thread showing this.
 
Do we have more than two samples showing this? I get what you are saying but my issue is that these tools are all just regression analysis based on statistical methods dressed up as something else. No different to econometrics. I don’t think most people here understand that. If we have such tiny sample sizes how can you say what they represent?
Exactly it's probably the samples.
 
No not all. I was born in the good old USA. What about my typing would make you think I was a fob
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These people would have had to travel through sudan to reach the part of Kenya there located in. Yet they still remained that heavily naftufian shifted ? Doesn't that seem unlikely to you ?
They could’ve taken the Red Sea route, either way it doesn’t matter what’s likely or unlikely the truth is the early pastoralists/Nubians were more Eurasian than the later ones. We have genetic and physical data to support this.
 
No we only have 2 samples, qpadm as far as I am aware does not use regression analyses.
We also have physical data from Nubia and we see a trend towards a more Sub Saharan phenotype and the earliest Nubians like the A group were almost indistinguishable from predynastic Upper Egyptians. I posted a few charts earlier in the thread showing this.
It’s absolutely based on regression analysis sxb, if you don’t know it just say so. I recognized it the moment I saw it since I took a few post-grad stats courses. They aren’t calling it regression but it is absolutely based off that and used in many fields under different names. The only difference is though you would be very careful with such small sample sizes in those other fields but here since it’s such a niche it’s not as rigorous. Still the same pitfalls though.
 
They could’ve taken the Red Sea route, either way it doesn’t matter what’s likely or unlikely the truth is the early pastoralists/Nubians were more Eurasian than the later ones. We have genetic and physical data to support this.
The odds they somehow went the red sea route is a lot lower than them just migrating down.

And no we don't actually know the early pastoralists were more eurasian shifted. The oldest samples are like 5 thosuand years old. There is also the fact that migration from the Levant kept increasing over time.
 
The odds they somehow went the red sea route is a lot lower than them just migrating down.

And no we don't actually know the early pastoralists were more eurasian shifted. The oldest samples are like 5 thosuand years old. There is also the fact that migration from the Levant kept increasing over time.
Imagine you have two Somali samples. One of them is reer xamar and one is an ethnic Somali but you don’t really know this. You then extrapolate based on these 2 samples onto the entire Somali population making sweeping proclamations that Somalis are closer to Pakistanis or have small amounts of bantu admixture. I’m not saying this is what’s happening here but it’s a real possibility whenever you have such minuscule sample sizes. Since we are talking about ancient dna and there is so little to work with in the first place and it’s such a niche this is more accepted.
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
I am preparing a post now on Anthromadness. Already over 3k words and 30 citations alongside visualizations and models using G25. Almost done with section 3 out of 4 of the post. It's all about the idea of the Wawat and Kermans being East Cushites and EC being a possible substrata in AE then illustrating that Cushites seem to have come into the Horn in separate waves.

So, from me I'd just wait on that and then see how it can relate to some of what you're saying. Apologies for the delay in posting it. I actually began working on it as soon as I posted my IBM post but it's hard blogging with a full-time job while trying to maintain some semblance of a social life during the weekends. Missing the days when I was an undergrad and first started AM.
This will be quite the feast, i've been reading your posts on anthromadness since 2017 man didn't realise you were the same guy 😂
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
They could’ve taken the Red Sea route, either way it doesn’t matter what’s likely or unlikely the truth is the early pastoralists/Nubians were more Eurasian than the later ones. We have genetic and physical data to support this.
How similar were the lower egyptians and the nubians in regards to their eurasian-african ratio?
 

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