Ancient history of somalia

[Ferrari]

Indians are majority in Mauritius, making up almost 70%the population?
Africans are beyond useless.

 

[Bahal]

With the exception of Somalia and Ethiopia, Subsaharan Africa did not have the wheel

 

[World]

With the exception of Somalia and Ethiopia, Subsaharan Africa did not have the wheel

Sudan, Eritrea, Djibouti, Sahel?

The only countries that might be true in are the ones that were blocked from outside civilisation until Europeans penetrated inside.

 

[Xooshdheere]

Historical Somali commercial enterprise in the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Indian Ocean, and the straits of Malacca.

 

[Ferrari]

With the exception of Somalia and Ethiopia, Subsaharan Africa did not have the wheel

Mumbai is 3000 miles away from Mauritius while southern Africans and Tanzania are around 1000 miles away.
There is no excuse bro. Africans are useless, it's now finally clicking why they were enslaved by the millions.

 

[Merca]

With the exception of Somalia and Ethiopia, Subsaharan Africa did not have the wheel

I tried finding more information about Somalia being one of the first nations to use the wheel, but I couldn’t find anything other than Wikipedia mentioning it briefly. And the source to that statement wasn’t “working”, so are there other reliable sites that mention this?

 

[World]

I tried finding more information about Somalia being one of the first nations to use the wheel, but I couldn’t find anything other than Wikipedia mentioning it briefly. And the source to that statement wasn’t “working”, so are there other reliable sites that mention this?

Somalia was connected to the Indian Ocean, so if we were then that would be the reason why(we had direct access to India, China, Middle East, Indonesi, Malaysia etc). And because animals were domesticated early on in Somalia. There are cave paintings thousands of years old showing mounted horsemen in Northern Somalia.

 

[arawelo 2.0]

With the exception of Somalia and Ethiopia, Subsaharan Africa did not have the wheel

I didn’t know you can use a wheel to cross the ocean

 

[Xooshdheere]

With the exception of Somalia and Ethiopia, Subsaharan Africa did not have the wheel

Mumbai is 3000 miles away from Mauritius while southern Africans and Tanzania are around 1000 miles away.
There is no excuse bro. Africans are useless, it's now finally clicking why they were enslaved by the millions.

Madagascar might look close on a world atlas, but it is 600km at its closest and over a 1000km at its southerly point. The Mozambque current flows southwards and the prevailing winds would take you in the same direction for six months of the year and North for another six months.
The Moz channel is also one of the most shark infested areas on Earth.

 

[GeKo]

Mumbai is 3000 miles away from Mauritius while southern Africans and Tanzania are around 1000 miles away.
There is no excuse bro. Africans are useless, it's now finally clicking why they were enslaved by the millions.

There were indigenous africans on those islands but the europeans brought indians as indentured servants and labourers by the thousands which is why there are many of them in mauritius, seychelles, south africa, and the carribeans.
On small islands its easy to be outnumbered, Socotra was once mostly Somalis, not sure what the demographics are now though.

 

[Grigori Rasputin]

Madagascar has sizable Somali population ( Djiboutian..colonial France...other seafarers) who've settled there

 

[Ferrari]

Madagascar has sizable Somali population ( Djiboutian..colonial France...other seafarers) who've settled there

bullshit.
stick to preying on young pregnant women and talking shit about the U.K.

 

[Bahal]

Sudan, Eritrea, Djibouti, Sahel?

Sudan is Nubia, Eritrea and Djibouti are basically Ethiopia and Somalia

 

[Ferrari]

There were indigenous africans on those islands but the europeans brought indians as indentured servants and labourers by the thousands which is why there are many of them in mauritius, seychelles, south africa, and the carribeans.
On small islands its easy to be outnumbered, Socotra was once mostly Somalis, not sure what the demographics are now though.

i know some indians were brought there for slavery but I'd assume most of the slaves used around that time would be Africans.

 

[World]

Sudan is Nubia, Eritrea and Djibouti are basically Ethiopia and Somalia

Sudan/Nubia is in Sub Saharan Africa though?

And the Sahel regions were not backward either. Timbuktu(Mali) was a center of learning.

“In its Golden Age, the town's numerous Islamic scholars and extensive trading network made possible an important book trade: together with the campuses of the Sankore Madrasah, an Islamic university, this established Timbuktu as a scholarly centre in Africa. Several notable historic writers, such as Shabeni and Leo Africanus, have described Timbuktu. These stories fueled speculation in Europe, where the city's reputation shifted from being extremely rich to being mysterious.”

“By the end of Mansa Musa's reign (early 14th century CE), the Sankoré Masjid had been converted into a fully staffed Madrassa (Islamic school or in this case university) with the largest collections of books in Africa since the Library of Alexandria. The level of learning at Timbuktu's Sankoré University was superior to that of many other Islamic centers in the world. The Sankoré Masjid was capable of housing 25,000 students and had one of the largest libraries in the world with between 400,000 to 700,000 manuscripts.”

Cut the suugo science out. The claim that only Somalia and Ethiopia had access to the wheel couldn’t be further from the truth.

 

[GeKo]

i know some indians were brought there for slavery but I'd assume most of the slaves used around that time would be Africans.

Most of them came as debt bondage and once working for the British for some years they'd be taken back to india but many called it their home.
They were probably used for more skilled labour as well, administrative work and building the railway in Kenya was mostly by indians too.

 

[mrcool]

How did somalis cross large ocean I don't recall anyone building ships?

 

[Prince Abubu]

How did somalis cross large ocean I don't recall anyone building ships?

Maritime history of Somalia

 

[GeKo]

How did somalis cross large ocean I don't recall anyone building ships?

Somalis used to build beden ships.
Did the Somalis regress over the centuries, I'm reading we were one of the few that used the wheel, its hard to believe when Somalis culturally shun any physical work in making anything and gave those jobs to the "lower caste". I heard the carab salax used to build ships.
We don't even use simple pulley systems in 2017 to draw water out of a well.

 

[World]

How did somalis cross large ocean I don't recall anyone building ships?

The Beden', badan, or alternate type names Beden-seyed and Beden-safar, is a fast, ancient Somali single or double-masted maritime vessel and ship, typified by its towering stern-post and powerful rudder. It is also the longest surviving sewn boat in the Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Its shipyards predominantly lie in the northeastern Hafun region of Somalia (notably Bayla), as well as Muscat. There are 2 types of Beden ships, with one type geared towards fishing (the Beden-seyed) and the other, trading (Beden-safar). The average trading Beden-safar ship measure more than 15 m (49 ft) in length, and are significantly larger than the fishing Beden-seyed ships, which measure 6-15m (20-49 ft) on average, but both are dwarfed by a much larger trading variant called the 'uwassiye, he most common trading and voyaging ship, with some measuring up to 77+ ft. The ship is noticeable and unique in its strengthened substantial gunwale, which attached by treenail. Originally, all Beden ships were sewn with coiled coconut fibre, holding the hull planking, stem and stern-post. but Omani variants, beginning in the 20th century, began nailing instead of sewing the planks.

They were built in Bari, Bayla:

”Bayla is located at the headland of Ras Ma'bar (or Cape Ma'bar). It historically served as an important landmark for sailors voyaging between the Arabian Peninsula and Horn of Africa.

A coastal community, Bayle is noted for its various beden, or ancient design sewn boats constructed without nails.”