Ancient history of somalia

[Jodeci]

I wouldn't be surprised, he lies about Somalis and comes to the rescue of the habeshi and oromo on here.

He's Ethiopian

 

[Grant]

He's Ethiopian

Deaf, dumb and blind. How else do you miss this three times?

 

[Grant]

The Kingdom of Kush has nothing to do with Cushitic speakers other than the fact our names are a bit similar. The language they most likely spoke was Nilo-Saharan.

Oromo descends from Meroe. This is recent work by an Ethiopian scholar at the University of Haramaya.

https://www.academia.edu/5847718/Me...he_mystery_of_Meroitic_language?auto=download


"MEROE, OROMO AND OLD NUBIAN: SOLVING THE MYSTERY OF MEROITIC LANGUAGE
Dereje Tadesse Birbirso (PhD) College of Social Science and Humanities Haramaya University, Ethiopia dttadesse@yahoo.com
Abstract

"Meroitic language is one of the most controversial ancient languages but one of the few having advanced writing systems. Some classify it Asian, European, non-African, Semitic, or ‘unclassified’. This paper contends Meroe, similar to their Cushitic friends, are left victims of preconceived ideas based on an entirely argument from silence, an hegemonic epistemology that elevates a single perspective and silences other(s). This paper, thus, comparatively analyzes Meroitic and Old Nubian lexical and grammatical items with corresponding Oromo, a Cushitic family which, many classical and contemporary philologists/linguists argue derives from a unique vocabulary possibly the Ancient language of the Nile Valley and/or Horn of Africa. Meroitic and Old Nubian lexical, grammatical and epigraphic data were collected from secondary sources by Meroitic researchers. Oromo corpora are obtained both from classical and modern descriptions and native-speakers. Results indicate Oromo lexemes show significant level of cognates with not only Meroitic and Old Nubian, but also with the Ancient Egyptian to their northern part."

 

[Young Popeye]

http://www.wow.com/wiki/Sultanate_of_Mogadishu

"According to the 16th century explorer Leo Africanus, the Mogadishu Sultanate (Magadazo) was the principal city-state within the larger Adea Kingdom, located south of the Adal Sultanate and east of the Abyssinian Empire. It was ruled by an Islamic aristocracy, which paid tribute to the Christian king of Abyssinia.[28] Leo Africanus also indicates that the native inhabitants of the Adea polity were of the same origins as the denizens of the northern Adal Sultanate. They were generally of an olive complexion, with some darker. They were shirtless, wearing only sarongs, and used Arabic as a lingua franca. Their weaponry consisted of lances and bows and arrows. Most were Muslims, although a few adhered to heathen bedouin tradition; there were also a number of Abyssinian Christians further inland. Magadazo itself was a wealthy, powerful and well-built city-state, which maintained commercial trade with the sultanates of Aden and Cambay, among other kingdoms.[29] It was surrounded by walled stone fortifications: initially, only towards the hinterland, but later also on the littoral, so as to provide a bulwark against marauding by the pagan Cafri "negroes" of the interior and the early Portuguese explorers, respectively.[30]

The various Sultans of Mogadishu are mainly known from the Mogadishan currency on which many of their names are engraved. However, their succession dates and genealogical relations are obscure.[31] The founder of the Sultanate was reportedly Fakr ad-Din, who was related to Sheikh Abadir Umar ar-Rida, the patron saint of Harar.[32] While only a handful of the pieces have been precisely dated, the Mogadishu Sultanate's first coins were minted at the beginning of the 14th century, with the last issued around the late 17th century. The following list of the Sultans of Mogadishu is abridged and is primarily derived from these mints.[33] The first of two dates uses the Islamic calendar, with the second using the Julian calendar; single dates are based on the Julian (European) calendar.

# Sultan Reign Notes
1 Abu Bakr b. Fakhr ad Din fl 1250 Founder of the Mogadishu Sultanate's first ruling house, the Fakr ad-Din dynasty.
2 Abu Bakr b. Muhammad fl 722/1322-1323 Ruling Sultan when Ibn Battuta visited the kingdom in 1331.
3 Al-Rahman b. al-Musa'id probably 8th/14th century
4 Yusuf b. Sa'id fl 8th/14th century
5 Sultan Muhammad fl 8th/14th century
6 Rasul b. 'Ali fl 8th/14th century
7 Yusuf b. Abi Bakr fl 8th/14th century
8 Malik b. Sa'id unknown dates, style of 8th/14th century
9 Sultan 'Umar fl 9th/15th century (?)
10 Zubayr b. 'Umar fl c. 9th/15th century "

Sultan Fakr ad Din was related to Saint Abadir of Harar, who was undeniably Arab. Look it up for yourself.

If you check the Codka Beesha Direed, you will see that the Muzzaffars didn't even allow Somalis into the city at night, understandable, given Leo's description of them. But it is listed as one of the reasons for the revolt.

abadirs fam set up mogadishu, his half breed harla son became sultan therefore it wasnt just pure arabs that were ruling dynasty because the native population wouldnt accept them unless they intermarried with the locals

 

[Grant]

abadirs fam set up mogadishu, his half breed harla son became sultan therefore it wasnt just pure arabs that were ruling dynasty because the native population wouldnt accept them unless they intermarried with the locals

Do we know it was his son? All I have read is that they were related. Also, Arab plus Harla does not equal Samaale, especially in the context of Leos's description of the Hawiyye of the time. Note that the Muzzaffars even had to employ a translator to communicate with the "natives".

 

[Young Popeye]

Do we know it was his son? All I have read is that they were related. Also, Arab plus Harla does not equal Samaale, especially in the context of Leos's description of the Hawiyye of the time. Note that the Muzzaffars even had to employ a translator to communicate with the "natives".

Leo's description seems somewhat accurate when he implies that Mogadishu was part of Hadiya. Hadiya were located west of Mogadishu and were at times being bullied by the Ethiopians and they had to pay tax to them since they bordered Ethiopia. Leo claims Mogadishu was taxed by Ethiopians it could be possible. Mogadishu's tax dollars may have gone to ethiopia via Hadiya indirectly. Historian Ulrich has confirmed the surviving Hadiya tribes are the Halaba people who claim to descend from abadir and the Silte who also claim to originate from Harar. Its not a surprise that the early Abyssinian-Adal wars began when a Hadiya princess was kidnapped by Ethiopians.

Its seems likely an early proto Samaale was in the area but its not clear if they were in Mogadishu city when it was set up. The arabs likely Abadir called it Hamar or land of the Hamites as opposed to the land of bantu, negroid etc. Its confirmed the early Hamites; the Harla and Hadiya were in south Somalia as historians already have found evidence of that. There's evidence of Samale in merca at 14th century and the Samale may have used the ajuran to really gain footing in Mogadishu in the later years.

 

[Jodeci]

Deaf, dumb and blind. How else do you miss this three times?

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like that google images picture is you, you fucking idiot , grant is ethiopian

 

[Malikfiqi]

Yep, although it was early 17th century, I got the year wrong. It was about 1624, maybe slightly earlier. The Muzzaffar dynasty was Omani.

https://operationoverload.wordpress.com/?s=The+Hiraab+enter+Mogadishu

"The Darandoolle have conquered Mogadishu city and killed the Muzzaffar governor sometime between 1590 and 1625. The approximate dates appear to be corroborated by a Portuguese document dated 1624<!–[if !supportFootnotes]–>[6]<!–[endif]–>.

After the Darandoolle Mudulood took control of the Mogadishu city in 1624, they quarrelled with the Ajuraan on the interior.

‘After entering Muqdisho, the Darandoolle quarrelled with the Ajuraan. They quarrelled over watering rights. The Ajuraan had decreed: ‘At the wells in our territory, the people known as Darandoolle and the other Hiraab cannot water their herds by day, but only at night’’…Then all the Darandoolle gathered in one place. The leaders decided to make war on the Ajuraan. They found the imam of the Ajuraan seated on a rock near a well called Ceel Cawl. They killed him with a sword. As they struck him with the sword, they split his body together with the rock on which he was seated. He died immediately and the Ajuraan migrated out of the country.’<!–[if !supportFootnotes]–>[7]<!–[endif]–>"

You should also read the sections before this. The Somalification of Mog took a long time.

When Hawiye claim Mogadishu
. "Hawiyya, it is growing dark! Hawiyya, it is growing dark!’ Then they went away toward the woodland."