Ancient history of somalia

[mrcool]

Wow that's amazing wallahi

I'll read more about it thanks

 

[World]

Somalis used to build beden ships.
Did the Somalis regress over the centuries, I'm reading we were one of the few that used the wheel, its hard to believe when Somalis culturally shun any physical work in making anything and gave those jobs to the "lower caste". I heard the carab salax used to build ships.
We don't even use simple pulley systems in 2017 to draw water out of a well.

It’s not that they can’t use a simple pulley system, but it’s that they don’t want to.

Somalis detest putting their camels through hardship, that’s why only women and children ride camels.

And the culture of Central/Southern Somalis(who have no maritime history whatsoever and were colonised by Omanis) is different to those in Somaliland and Puntland.

 

[Bahal]

Lets start with the Periplus from the 1st Century C.E.:

Now lets move to the lucrative cinnamon trade:

contd.

 

[Ferrari]

This thread turned out pretty interesting wrayaada.

@AbdiJew change the title to ancient history of somalia.

 

[GeKo]

It’s not that they can’t use a simple pulley system, but it’s that they don’t want to.

Somalis detest putting their camels through hardship, that’s why only women and children ride camels.

And the culture of Central/Southern Somalis(who have no maritime history whatsoever and were colonised by Omanis) is different to those in Somaliland and Puntland.

I mean this one without having to use their camel. It's much easier to pull with, im yet to see this in somalia made by geeljires, like the ones made by these ppl.
Whatever part of Somalia, Somalis shun labour that involves making things, and the ships in the north were made by carab saalax people.

 

[World]

I mean this one without having to use their camel. It's much easier to pull with, im yet to see this in somalia made by geeljires, like the ones made by these ppl.
Whatever part of Somalia, Somalis shun labour that involves making things, and the ships in the north were made by carab saalax people.

Sxb, who told you that Carab Salaax built the ships? The Somali maritime history dates back over 2000 years ago whilst they only arrived 200 years ago, if not less. Furthermore, they live in Mudug and the people in that region are pure Geeljires who even detest eating fish unlike Bari and Sanaag.

You make the assumption that nomads are the ones who were building ships, which is false. They never even built their weapons, shoes, saddles or clothes. The ones who were sailing and building ships were not nomads, but frankincense and myrrh traders who were only nomads half the year.

 

[.279]

I mean this one without having to use their camel. It's much easier to pull with, im yet to see this in somalia made by geeljires, like the ones made by these ppl.
Whatever part of Somalia, Somalis shun labour that involves making things, and the ships in the north were made by carab saalax people.

If we can't make something as simple as this this we're brain dead.

 

[GeKo]

Sxb, who told you that Carab Salaax built the ships? The Somali maritime history dates back over 2000 years ago whilst they only arrived 200 years ago, if not less. Furthermore, they live in Mudug and the people in that region are pure Geeljires who even detest eating fish unlike Bari and Sanaag.

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[World]

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Sxb, it seems that you’re clueless on Somali history. And as such, your degrading your people due to your ignorance. The Carab Salax arrived in Somalia 200 years ago(and they lived in Mudug, not even Bari, Sanaag, Waqooyi Galbeed, Saylac) whilst there are Greek records documenting our ports over 2000 years ago. Could you tell me who were building ships then? Just read the post of @Bahal who literally posted something himself on this page.

 

[Ferrari]

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You know Arabs of the prophet's time used to look down on builders and inventors. If you didn't own camel, you were considered a lowly ass nigga.
They even used to look down on farmers. This culture made its way to us after we accepted Islam and started to claim Arabs. So this can only be true if it was pre islam era because after that, our culture changed. so 2000 years ago is very convincing.

 

[World]

You know Arabs of the prophet's time used to look down on builders and inventors. If you didn't own camel, you were considered a lowly ass nigga.
They even used to look down on farmers. This culture made its way to us after we accepted Islam and started to claim Arabs. So this can only be true if it was pre islam era because after that, our culture changed.

This culture of hating farmers/fishers/cities/builders is common with all nomads as far as East Asia(Mongolia).

 

[Ferrari]

This culture of hating farmers/fishers/cities/builders is common with all nomads as far as East Asia(Mongolia).

It could be. All I know is that nomads tend to consider themselves at the top and look down on non-nomads, especially builders and handymen.

 

[GeKo]

You know Arabs of the prophet's time used to look down on builders and inventors. If you didn't own camel, you were considered a lowly ass nigga.
They even used to look down on farmers. This culture made its way to us after we accepted Islam and started to claim Arabs. So this can only be true if it was pre islam era because after that, our culture changed. so 2000 years ago is very convincing.

haha, Let's stop putting the blame on others on Somali matters.
Most nomadic camel herders have similar culture in the regard that they look down at others are prideful and are brave/fierce warriors. From the Hadendoa of Sudan, to the Tuareg of the Sahel and the Afar of the Horn they all act similar when it comes to looking down on builders/farmers/labourers.

 

[World]

It could be. All I know is that nomads tend to consider themselves at the top and look down on non-nomads, especially builders and handymen.

Yh it’s the same across the world. But I don’t know why he thinks that nomads were the ones who were building ships. Most of them hated even the sight of the sea(if they had seen one).

The people of Bari and Sanaag had a long culture of frankincense and myrrh trading.

But what can you expect from a self hating Somali who doesn’t even want to open a basic history book, but uses ignorant brain. Literally, there is a post on this thread that details the long maritime history dating back 2000 years but he wishes to ignore and mock it.

 

[XamarCade]

Inkaart nebi Muuse (as) ah afrika ku dhac-thay

 

[Grigori Rasputin]

bullshit.
stick to preying on young pregnant women and talking shit about the U.K.

You're absolutely right, I should stay in ny lane.

Alright

Let me make a thread abt a young gazelle

 

[Grant]

Folks,

Please check out James Dahl's writings.

https://historyinthehorn.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/when-himyar-ruled-the-banadir/

And Sada Mire:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10437-015-9184-9

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=James+Dahl-+historical+maps+of+Somalia&fr=yhs-mozilla-002&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Horn0560ad.png#id=5&iurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Horn0560ad.png&action=click

The early sailing was done by Himyar, which was trading with (Afar) Adal and the Yibir at the time of the Periplus. Most Somali produce was ferried across the Gulf of Aden on rafts and small boats to be shipped by Himyar, which also controlled the trade along the East African coast. This evolved into the Omani-Zanzibari Sultanate that eventually sold out to the Italians.

The Somali clans form in the 12th to 13th centuries. Here they are in 1300 AD.

 

[Xooshdheere]

the title and first comment doesnt make any sense

 

[RasCanjero-]

Seems like we regressed as a people since we stopped building those ships.

We had a chance for a renaissance in the 70's but we had to f*ck it up by going to war against the Soviet union.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

I believe the Periplus of the Erythrean Sea is the only text from antiquity that is available on Somalia.

Also @Grant how accurate are those maps you posted?