I can send you a Twitter link where orom military is forcing two siblings to have grape each other by gun point. Ethiopian have been documented million of time doing grape or force two family members to grape each other by gun point. Just ask your self why do ethiopian have the highest AIDS rate in East AfricaSo you have no actual proof?
chill out, I wasn’t coming for you, I don’t know how to speak Somali neither am I on Somali social media, I’m speaking from what I’ve personally seen on the English speaking side of somali social media , and it’s mostly men with the same views as you, pushing this rhetoric, so yea that kinda makes me a bit more sceptical of these claims.lool. If you were Somali you would know it is a near consensus on Somali social media.
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Theres a controversy every couple of weeks in Somali spaces, at this point its becoming difficult to keep up. Theres definitely something fueling it behind the scenes.
I am going to say it's true until proven otherwise with concrete or compelling evidence. That doesn't mean I think we should throw people in prison quite yet, I think there should be a serious investigation but I'm seeing more in favour for real than false so far.I’ve not commented on this situation, but what concrete proof is there that this is fake? Like I’m not seeing any proof here that it’s fake nor any proof it’s real? Both sides here have a clear agenda.
I’ve not commented on this situation, but what concrete proof is there that this is fake? Like I’m not seeing any proof here that it’s fake nor any proof it’s real? Both sides here have a clear agenda.
How about the fact that the video she provided saying it was her being raped in 2023 was found to be from ethiopia in 2019 with a different audio.
They changed the audio, its all over Somali social media. Now she has gone into hiding and her and Dahir Alasow are refusing to involve police? While the man they accused said he wants to take it to the police.
It is a huge story on Somali social media right now and they are all shocked at the level of depravity.
The fact that she lied about and edited a video is enough tbh and that she is now hiding. I am sure more details will follow as everyone now is following the story.
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I believe her too and she needs justice but you should look at the bigger picture here. What does spreading this story in English do for Somalis as a collective? Nobody cares about Somali women the same way other Somali women do. Non Muslims will just use these incidences as an opportunity to paint Muslims and Somalis negatively. They don’t actually care about the victim.Nahh i still believe her story. U havent shown any proof. Ur just mad tht this makes ur gender look bad.
Every country/culture has r*pe culture to some capacity. Somalia is not immune to this. Ours is uncontrolled, ripe and normalised. You and other posters on here think r*pe culture is severe SA or r*pe when that is simply the most extreme form of r*pe culture.That's not rape culture. There is a difference between systematic, culturally accepted behaviors and crimes committed in the context of war or political instability.
"Rape culture" refers to a society where sexual violence is normalized, tolerated, or excused in everyday life.
In Somalia, while sexual violence does occur especially in conflict zones it is not widely accepted or encouraged by the general culture. In fact, Somali social norms, Islamic teachings, and traditional values strongly condemn such acts.
The existence of sexual violence in wartime or political strife is a tragic reality in many conflict-affected regions, but that alone does not define a society as having a "rape culture." A rape culture would involve widespread victim-blaming, a lack of legal consequences for perpetrators, and societal indifference to sexual violence in everyday life.
The widespread outrage over incidents like the Anfac case (regardless if it's true or not) shows that Somali society does not tolerate or normalize such acts. While law enforcement and institutional responses may be weak due to instability in some regions, this is not the same as cultural acceptance.
you are partially right. But in the end they do have free will or not? There are 2 types of women in somalia. 1. the good ones who stay out or condemn clan wars. 2. the maniacs who wield machetes and scream for war. Not every woman is miskiin. And obviously same goes for the men. Plus the quran doesnt require obedience to injustice or violence. In fact women who resist aiding men in clan conflicts are following islamic principles, not defying them.Somali women follow the somali men. It's a patriachal society. If men engage in start and engage clan wars, why would you think somali women would sit idly by? Their told to help their men in their endavours like a good wife/female relative. I've heard some say its shameful for women to defy their men as per the Quran. If men decided to stop engaging in qabalayad and create an orderly society, women would follow. Acting like a few cases is comparable to the systemic downfall of somalia is dumb.
Found by who? Who has found that it’s from 2019? How do you we know it isn’t her ex husband’s camp saying it is and we’re just all going with it? Who has officially confirmed it? All I’m seeing is she said, he said. Hence I will refrain from commenting. The general masses will not watch a r-word video so most will have no real idea.How about the fact that the video she provided saying it was her being gang r*ped in 2023 was found to be from ethiopia in 2019 with a different audio.
They changed the audio, its all over Somali social media. Now she has gone into hiding and her and Dahir Alasow are refusing to involve police? While the man they accused said he wants to take it to the police.
It is a huge story on Somali social media right now and they are all shocked at the level of depravity.
The fact that she lied about and edited a video is enough tbh and that she is now hiding. I am sure more details will follow as everyone now is following the story.
Rape culture is when incidences of rape are normalized, excused, or overlooked. If we had a rape culture there wouldn’t be any protests and outrage by Somali women and men back home. Rape is not normalised like it is in some other countries. Dumb misogynistic phrases or jokes does not mean Somalia has a normalised culture of rape.Every country/culture has rape culture to some capacity. Somalia is not immune to this. Ours is uncontrolled, ripe and normalised. You and other posters on here think rape culture is severe SA or r*pe when that is simply the most extreme form of r*pe culture.
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We come from a country where phrases like “naag waa weel waax lagu shuubto” and “wixii xunba xawaa leh” are normalised, and there are many more examples like this. Let’s continue looking at the normalisation aspect of this picture. Somali women at home often wear the niqab because they do not want to be subjected to unwanted attention, as men are often uncontrollable with catcalling. The issue of non-consensual photos and videos is also highly relevant. In Somalia, there is a widespread Telegram epidemic, where Somali men share inappropriate videos and pictures of Somali women. This is why reer SL refer to southern Somalia as 'reer telegram' as an insult. There used to be multiple pages with over 100k followers that uploaded unsolicited videos on tiktok of Somali women at Liido Beach, especially when their dresses would stick to them after swimming.
There is also a normalisation of misogyny and inappropriate jokes among young men back home, and it is often brushed off. Watch these videos, and you'll see how prevalent they are. Why do they receive over 100k likes, and why do young children feel comfortable repeating such behaviour aloud? Why does the crowd laugh, as if it is acceptable? If Somali society shuns girls and women by using terms like “isku xishood” and “ceeb”, why are such terms never applied to young men or older men in the same way?
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Now let’s discuss the assault section of this picture, which represents the most extreme form, as everything leads to this point. Everyone in Somalia and the world knows that sexual assault or r*pe is wrong. Somalia is also a Muslim-majority country, so why is it that when Muslim women face sexual assault or rape, the perpetrators are rarely prosecuted? Why is it that every day, Somali women are on tiktok live crying and advocating for justice? Just a few months ago, an autistic child in Somaliland was assaulted by her grandfather. When her mother went to the police, the officer told her to speak to her clan representative, who outright refused to take the case further, arguing, “How can a grandfather do this to his granddaughter?” The granddaughter is now pregnant. All they need to do is conduct a DNA test and deliver justice, but she has been denied it to this day. Like Anfac and Luul, her case sparked widespread outrage, yet the Somali government and police continue to fail women by denying them justice. Even this video alone speaks volumes. Was this man arrested for threatening mass rape? In what kind of world or society is it normalised to say such things and face no repercussions?
At the end of the day, you and the other posters can act like rape culture isn't a thing in Somalia. All it does is lead to the normalisation of the extreme, which is rape and sexual assault. This country has lacked accountability for women since the day the USC mass raped women, and we all moved on like nothing happened.
Crook, do not take my comment being about the situation at hand because as of now, I have no idea what’s true or and what’s false:you are partially right. But in the end they do have free will or not? There are 2 types of women in somalia. 1. the good ones who stay out or condemn clan wars. 2. the maniacs who wield machetes and scream for war. Not every woman is miskiin. And obviously same goes for the men. Plus the quran doesnt require obedience to injustice or violence. In fact women who resist aiding men in clan conflicts are following islamic principles, not defying them.
The issue at hand is that many Somali men have took on this issue and issues like this as a direct besmirching of their rep rather than seeing this a permissive deeply heinous world wide issue that haunts every group. Also, Dumarland women have also made the issue to be something that only Somali men do when again this is world wide.Rape culture is when incidences of rape are normalized, excused, or overlooked. If we had a rape culture there wouldn’t be any protests and outrage by Somali women and men back home. Rape is not normalised like it is in some other countries. Dumb misogynistic phrases or jokes does not mean Somalia has a normalised culture of rape.
Countries like America and the UK downplays sexual violence and often blames the victim. Somalia isn’t some sort of special case where women are raped at extreme rates and it goes ignored. Even the most developed countries have high rates of sexual violence and victim blaming.
Bringing attention to issues in Somalia or Somali regions is important but it should be done in Somali. It doesn’t benefit somali women to complain about our men in English to non Muslims. They don’t care and will just use it to paint our country negatively. I wish Somali feminists had common sense
Men that blame women for issues they created just don’t want to take accountability and it makes you less of a man. This is why Somalia is the way it is. Why are you holding women to a higher standard and expecting them to defy rules men created in a patriarchal society if the men can’t even abandon qabyaalad themselves?you are partially right. But in the end they do have free will or not? There are 2 types of women in somalia. 1. the good ones who stay out or condemn clan wars. 2. the maniacs who wield machetes and scream for war. Not every woman is miskiin. And obviously same goes for the men. Plus the quran doesnt require obedience to injustice or violence. In fact women who resist aiding men in clan conflicts are following islamic principles, not defying them.