Anyone else seeing the propaganda pushed out by extremist SL supporters today?

[Gantaal97]

Learn some history, kid.

Sxb the south ain't like us the italian colonials ripped that culture from them sadly

 

[Gantaal97]

lmfao,
we value peace over everything.


Interesting how you're denying a massacre, but then SL cry when the same is done to them.


Yeah a Gadabuursi figure head puppet.
That will help them forget about the massacre! Look, we handed you a cookie, now align with us.

Lmao a figure head puppet who constantly jailed opposition figures and his forces tried to kill Maxmud silyano the former SNM chairman and later the leader of the opposition near his office in mid 2000s

 

[mr steal your naag]

well I think we need to bomb Hargeisa again

Litterly the kdf bombs gedo every month? And not 1 somali politicians opens their mouth about it

 

[Magan95]

Samaroons are not staunch landers.

I asked you for one source about this made up piece of fiction, you know there are aren't any sources, so you try a terrible example of whataboutism. If you want evidence of the genocide by Somalia against the Isaaq, just say so. I can provide you dozens of articles by objective, well known global newspapers written at the time, that documented the genocide. I can also provide pictures & video of the genocide, as it was happening.

Here is the challenge again for you. Give me one objective, credible source from the Dilla "massacre" from around the time it happened. Just one.

Here you go. I got carried away with the celebrations but I'm back for this.

UNHCR Web Archive

www.refworld.org

Even in this article they have more sources listed at the bottom.

 

[Magan95]

Learn some history, kid.

Once again,

Borama was targeted, SL tried extremely hard with the propaganda to make it seem the opposite.

Some might have supported SL but that's about it.

How come SL is still arresting pro-Somalia citizens today but Somalia isn't doing the same?

 

[Gantaal97]

Samaroons are not staunch landers.


Here you go. I got carried away with the celebrations but I'm back for this.

UNHCR Web Archive

www.refworld.org

Dude you are fucking moron what does this have to proof when samaroon are part of the institution and the state?? GTFO

 

[Magan95]

Dude you are fucking moron what does this have to proof when samaroon are part of the institution and the state?? GTFO

If I recall, he asked for proof about the Massacre and Samaroons being targeted by SL.
Here it is, they were even in Ethiopian refugee camps and this was all documented.

The made up "Dilla massacre" never happened. There is not one source from at the time that corroborates. It was made up years later to try and tarnish the reputation of the Isaaq/SNM.

The wikipedia article you used, cites sources that either don't mention Dilla or don't exist at all.

Give me one just one credible source from around the time this was supposed to have happened, and I'll believe it.

What happened in Dilla was that the last of the Fa**sh hiding in the town was eliminated. The great Gadabuursi Mujaahid Cabdiraxmaan Aw Cali was one of the commanders of the SNM units that achieved this great military victory.

 

[Gantaal97]

Once again,

After Borama was decimated, SL tried extremely hard with the propaganda to make it seem the opposite.

This is the city that the SNM targeted its civilians.

Doqoniyoo the samroon elders played huge role for the foundation of somaliland and even designed the flag

 

[Magan95]

I never once denied that there are some Gadabuursi that support Somaliland.
You can't say they're the majority.

According to a former member of the Hargeisa Group (imprisoned in 1982 by the Mohamed Siad Barre's regime), who went to Somaliland after the declaration of independence, part of the Gadabursi leadership negociated with the Issaq for the foundation of Somaliland while some other elders refused the secession (31 Aug. 1992).[

The Gadabursi Somali Democratic Alliance (SDA) has split up over the independence of Somaliland: one wing was headed by one minister of the SNM-dominated government who was recently sacked, a second wing claims the SNM has broken up its promises of fairness towards all Northern clans, and the third win strongly support Somali unity (Gilkes July 1992, 49). However, some sub-clans of the Gadabursi, such as the Jibril Yunis, is reportedly not opposed to the SNM (Ryle Jan. 1992, 14).

A report indicates that the Gadabursi, as well as other minority clans in Somaliland, have been resistant to the unilateral declaration of independence by the Issaq Somali National Movement (SNM) in May 1991 (Jeune Afrique 28 May-3 June 1992, 28). Earlier this year, the only two Gadabursi included in the SNM-led government of Somaliland resigned or were dismissed from their positions (The Indian Ocean Newsletter 29 Feb. 1992; 14 Mar. 1992).

Armed conflict also occurred which opposed the Gadabursi and the Issaq. In February 1991, "ethnic cleansing" by the SNM took place in the Boroma region, the main Gadabursi town (Inter-NGO Committee Apr. 1991, 71; Africa Research Bulletin 1-28 Feb. 1991, 10025; Radio of the Somali National Movement 5 Feb. 1991). The Gadabursi town of Dila was also partially destroyed by the SNM (Ibid.). More recently, fighting broke out in the Gadabursi town at the end of March 1992, spreading to Berbera two days later (Horn of Africa Bulletin Mar. 1992, 11).
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[Magan95]

Doqoniyoo the samroon elders played huge role for the foundation of somaliland and even designed the flag

So you Somalilanders get mad when people deny the massacre that happened against Isaaqs, but go around and do the same against the massacre Isaaqs committed against Gadabuursi's?

 

[Gantaal97]

If I recall, he asked for proof about the Massacre and Samaroons being targeted by SL.
Here it is, they were even in Ethiopian refugee camps and this was all documented.

Let me ask you a question if samroon were anti SL as you claim why did the elders agree to remove the post of VP from Cali Tuur Hy isaaq and last SNM chairman who was a unionist and why did samaroon elders backed Cigaal adminstration of setting up the Somaliland state and voting for the speration ???

 

[Gantaal97]

I never once denied that there are some Gadabuursi that support Somaliland.
You can't say they're the majority.

In Somali culture elders represent the community wherever the elders choose you go with it

 

[Gantaal97]

So you Somalilanders get mad when people deny the massacre that happened against Isaaqs, but go around and do the same against the massacre Isaaqs committed against Gadabuursi's?

That wasn't a massacre it was an incident between pro faqash forces and SNM and SNM withdraw from the Town and talks have been held between isaaq elders and samaroon elders to bring an end to the bloodshed

 

[Magan95]

You ever think maybe they are outnumbered by Isaaqs and don't want armed conflict?

Let me ask you a question if samroon were anti SL as you claim why did the elders agree to remove the post of VP from Cali Tuur Hy isaaq and last SNM chairman who was a unionist and why did samaroon elders backed Cigaal adminstration of setting up the Somaliland state and voting for the speration ???

Did you read the article I linked?

The SAMARON WHO WERE PRO-UNIONIST were massacred and targeted. The ones who were pro-SL were left alone to thrive and flourish. You are mentioning one side that was Pro-SL.

History will be told by the victor, in this case, it is anyone who is pro-SL.

According to a June 1991 report, Gadabursi refugees in Ethiopian camps were apprehensive to return to newly-proclaimed Somaliland because they feared repraisal for their association with the regime of Mohamed Siad Barre (The Independent 22 June 1991; Le Monde 7 Feb. 1991). For example, Gadabursi militias had helped the Somali Army to retake control of Zeila and Loyada in April 1990 after most of the region was conquered by the SNM (AFP 4 Apr. 1990). The fact that most refugees who fled to Ethiopia during the first part of 1991 were Gadabursi indicates that the fighting for independence, led by the Issaq SNM, has led a significant number of Gadabursi to flee Somaliland (Ryle Jan. 1992, 13; Reuters 18 May 1991; Le Monde 23 May 1991). The SNM destroyed the home town of a large number of refugees, Dila, which prevents many Gadabursi Reer Nuur (sub-clan) refugees from returning from Ethiopian camps

 

[Dharbaaxo Jin]

Samaroons are not staunch landers.


Here you go. I got carried away with the celebrations but I'm back for this.

UNHCR Web Archive

www.refworld.org

Even in this article they have more sources listed at the bottom.

Dude, you are citing refworld? That is worse than citing Wikipedia. At least wikipedia hyperlinks to the actual source they are citing. None of the links that this useless site links are one's you can follow up on.

I gave you a specific article by the Washington Post, with a link to the article and a specific quote.

Give something remotely credible instead of some bullshit site that anyone and their mad uncle can edit.

 

[Gantaal97]

You ever think maybe they are outnumbered by Isaaqs and don't want armed conflict?


Did you read the article I linked?

The SAMARON WHO WERE PRO-UNIONIST were massacred and targeted. The ones who were pro-SL were left alone to thrive and flourish. You are mentioning one side that was Pro-SL.

History will be told by the victor, in this case, it is anyone who is pro-SL.

You're an idiot qorba joog kid let me tell you this samaroon gadabursi own their region there's no Isaaq sub clan running around and they decided to be part of Somaliland and if they want to be out of Somaliland they can that's their choice and no one can stop them

 

[Magan95]

Dude, you are citing refworld? That is worse than citing Wikipedia. At least wikipedia hyperlinks to the actual source they are citing.

I gave you a specific article by the Washington Post, with a link to the article and a specific quote.

Give something remotely credible instead of some bullshit site that anyone and their mad uncle can edit.

You do understand that it was Canada: Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada that wrote this report right?

You gave me the Washington Post,
I gave you Ref world which has the citations listed at the bottom. You can easily follow them.
Wikipedia itself also lists citations at the bottom.

There is not much of a difference.

 

[Gantaal97]

You do understand that it was Canada: Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada that wrote this report right?

You gave me the Washington Post,
I gave you Ref world which has the citations listed at the bottom. You can easily follow them.
Wikipedia itself also lists citations at the bottom.

There is not much of a difference.

 

[Gantaal97]

This is Boorama conference in Boorama hosted by Gadabursi elders on the future of the Somaliland politics and state building

 

[Magan95]

That wasn't a massacre it was an incident between pro faqash forces and SNM and SNM withdraw from the Town and talks have been held between isaaq elders and samaroon elders to bring an end to the bloodshed

Ah, so were back to denying a massacre that has occurred.
Interesting.

You do understand that no major world country recognizes the autonomy of Somaliland right?
When Somalia gets its shit together, we'll see what the future holds.

In the meantime, don't cry about people denying the Isaaq massacre.