What do you think about the theory that says the introduction of camel caused the proto Somalis to venture out north from their southern base. This explains why af maxaa tiri is fairly homogenized in the north/west while you can still see a lot of diversity in Somali language in the south. If this theory is to be believed, then this migration to the north by Somalis would have occurred around 300BC or even further. I say 300BC because this is around the time the rendille language starts to diverge to become its own language. This is also around the time they migrated further south, while other somaliod group were going north and this group later became after maxaa tiri speakers that dominate Somaliwayn today. If this is true, then the camel would have been introduced around 2200 YA mark but this all is speculation of course.
Arab and Somali tribes on T-Y16897
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No such thing happened, no evidence of this mass migration. The architecture was shared as seen by evidence and stated by schneider. Your theory has completely been blown out of the water and the inscriptions clearly show the royalty were Ethiopian.
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You have 1/4 to 1/3 Iron Age Yemeni input if your from Tigray or Eritrea. Genetics don’t lie.
Isn’t haplogroup t an Ancient South Arabian Yemenite haplogroup?
That's another separate branch downstream of T-Y16897.
Is that found in habesha
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So far only Somalis Djiboutian Afars and some Arab tribes have been tested positive for it.
Worth noting: There was recently a Oromo tribe claiming decent from Habar Yonis soldiers during Futah times that made contact with clan leaders in SL a few months back. There could be some T-Y16 Oromos running around Ethiopia.
No. Perhaps it's found in Dirs, assimilated by Oromos or Afar. It's only found in adjacent groups.
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Lol no the tests done in Djibouti don't go that far. Only states that 5 Afars tested for general haplogroup T
I have 4th cousin who is Eritrean, he was T-L208, the story goes that one of my distant relatives disappeared and was never seen again.
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It’s been a while guys, any updates on this Haplogroup?
Arabsiyawi
HA Activist.
Not much so far.
We learned a bit more about certain subclades that were present in Africa since LSA/Neolithic.
We have Skhirat cave remains, where 2 individuals from the late neolithic with elevated levantine-like ancestry tested positive for T-PF7455* and PF7455>PF7443.
Last year we've also learned about remains from Tunisia, late neolithic as well, belonging to haplogroup T. One of the two (I22852) is also positive for PF7443, and the other T-PH196.
A Nubian remain from Kulubnarti (Christian Nubia) also positive for PF7443.
There's an Egyptian mummy (600ish century BC) that belongs to a different branch of PF7445.
Modern North Africans are quite well represented within that branch. There's an Ethiopian on here too.
I noticed on FTDNA that a Tanzanian person was positive for T-Y3824, but didn't do BigY. Could be local or of arabian ancestry, who knows.
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Leaked results circulating for two remains from Khaybar, north of Medina . One of them is for a male with the paternal lineage: T (one of the Neolithic Levantine lineages). * Preliminary results (simulation), compared with the components of a sample from the Anza tribe, the contemporary people of Khaybar.
