Arabization is the worst that happened to Somalis

[Sloane Ranger]

Here we go with insults. Let me be very clear, you are the exact person I was talking about in the original post. You seem to think that if you are Muslim, you must worship carabnimo

I never once said anything about embracing Arabs.

 

[Hassan mahat]

I never once said anything about embracing Arabs.

This is getting of hand. I am gonna report you to the administration for antisemitism.

 

[Hassan mahat]

I never once said anything about embracing Arabs.

You seem to hate non muslims while staying in a non Muslim country, the irony

 

[among us]

What these people who complain about Arabization want is for women to abandon their hijabs and walk around wearing guntiino with our arms bare like our grandmothers and great-grandmothers on display. As Muslims we do not consider that progress, our ayeeyos in their youth did not understand that Islamically that is haraam. Now that they do alhamdulliah, they all wear the correct hijab.

The fact that as a nation we have let go of things that are boderline shirk and lack of hijab, is great! Inshallah I just hope one day our akhlaaq and spirituality matches our outward appearce.

Somalia can wear Muslim Somali clothes like baati and gabsar
Do u see those girl or woman
Wearing Muslim Somali clothes

Everything doesn't to have to look arab culture and also Arab names are not the only Muslim name Somali names are Muslim name 2 in order name to be Muslim doesn't have to be pronounce arabic
Muslim name is the meaning of the name not how it is pronounce
@Revolutionary.

 

[among us]

This is where arguments against islam comes in, I've talked to somalis who are not muslims and say this is just arab attire/culture has done for us, destroys us so much so that we essentially dress like them (male and female) want to be like them, speak arabic as a native language and use adabic letters for our script to the point where we delusionally want to be them as it somehow makes us believe that we are more muslim now I've also seen Somalis that do advocate for all what the non muslim ones were saying and I personally think both sides are wrong. I think there is a way to dress accordingly to Islam while also keeping our culture intact, perhaps even modifying our attire to make it more Islamically acceptable AND more unique, also I loath the fact that people would want arabic to be a main language, i say it could be a second language for mainly religious purposes.

What do you think?

It is arab cloth in order something to be Muslim doesn't have to sound Arabic nor look arab culture also the names 2

 

[Hassan mahat]

It is arab cloth in order something to be Muslim doesn't have to sound Arabic nor look arab culture also the names 2
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I am not talking about Islam. I am specifically addressing Wahhabism, and speaking Arabic all the time as if we are arabs. We have rich culture, so what is the problem guys?

If I see another Somali saying we are arabs

wara @Karim did I hit nerve.

 

[Aurelian]

In my area, there are a lot of them

So it's ok for cyaal hooyo matalo in uk/us/Australia to more often speak English, swed Somalis to speak swedish, Denmark Somalis to speak handicappism, but speaking Arabic more often than Somali is a part of the wahabbism agenda to Arabized Somalis?

 

[Karim]

wara @Karim did I hit nerve.

You're hypocritical fucker and I cringe the sight of people like you. You're entire thread reeks of insecurity and hatred towards Arabs. It's one thing to oppose Wahabbism and another to criticize people for merely speaking Arabic. Mofo you speak English too, do you see anyone criticising you for speaking English?! Noo.. it's like saying I detest Somalis who speak French or Swahili or Hindi. Shut your face

 

[among us]

Sudanese women don't wear "Arab" clothes lol. Some wear abayas but traditional clothing (toub) was never abandoned.

Why did Somalis abounded their

 

[Hassan mahat]

You're hypocritical fucker and I cringe the sight of people like you. You're entire thread reeks of insecurity and hatred towards Arabs. It's one thing to oppose Wahabbism and another to criticize people for merely speaking Arabic. Mofo you speak English too, do you see anyone criticising you for speaking English?! Noo.. it's like saying I detest Somalis who speak French or Swahili or Hindi. Shut your face

Bruh chiiiill. It is not that serious

 

[among us]

You're hypocritical fucker and I cringe the sight of people like you. You're entire thread reeks of insecurity and hatred towards Arabs. It's one thing to oppose Wahabbism and another to criticize people for merely speaking Arabic. Mofo you speak English too, do you see anyone criticising you for speaking English?! Noo.. it's like saying I detest Somalis who speak French or Swahili or Hindi. Shut your face

The thing is those say Arab should be speaking cuz of Islam so does the cloth those ppl are using religion to further Arab language and culture and cloths that is the difference European aren't using religion and the reason we speak English is we live in the west and not in Somalia
That is all

 

[Karim]

The thing is those say Arab should be speaking cuz of Islam so does the cloth those ppl are using religion to further Arab language and culture and cloths that is the difference European aren't using religion and the reason we speak English is we live in the west and not in Somalia
That is all

The word "SHOULD" indicates obligation which isn't appropriate in this topic. If you aren't interested in learning Arabic then it's fine, it's your life not mine but don't critique people who are genuinely interested in learning or speaking Arabic regardless of their reasons. The scholars, transmitters, and interpreters of Islam didn't achieve their esteemed title without learning the Arabic language. Arabic is a basic necessity for anyone who seeks to dive deep into the religion.

 

[Angelina]

Somalia can wear Muslim Somali clothes like baati and gabsar
Do u see those girl or woman
Wearing Muslim Somali clothes
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Everything doesn't to have to look arab culture and also Arab names are not the only Muslim name Somali names are Muslim name 2 in order name to be Muslim doesn't have to be pronounce arabic
Muslim name is the meaning of the name not how it is pronounce
@Revolutionary.

That's fine, but when these people that complain about Arabization talk about dress, they reminisce about the women in the past.

Yes, these girls are wearing guntiino, but they updated it and are wearing it with a hijab. 60 years ago, women would wear the guntiino with their shoulders on display. The married ones might wear shaash or ileeyar, but still their arms were on display. Older women would probably be the ones that wore a gabaasar.

The point I made earlier is that cultures update. Hardly no one wears their traditional clothes unless they are at weddings or chilling at home. Even the 'Arab' female clothes you lot complain about is new in the Arab world.

 

[among us]

The word "SHOULD" indicates obligation which isn't appropriate in this topic. If you aren't interested in learning Arabic then it's fine, it's your life not mine but don't critique people who are genuinely interested in learning or speaking Arabic regardless of their reasons. The scholars, transmitters, and interpreters of Islam didn't achieve their esteemed title without learning the Arabic language. Arabic is a basic necessity for anyone who seeks to dive deep into the religion.

I didn't say someone can't learn Arabic all I said is don't use Islam to say ppl should speak Arabic in daily live and make it in Somalia as second language and also to use for economics and in public school and in government the system and have Arabic and Arab culture and cloth
That is what I am against not someone who want it to learn what the reason may be

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Out of all non Arab people's who have embraced Islam, the culture of the Somali and the Tuareg was the most similar to the culture of Arabia in the time of the prophet. Somali culture is a camel culture, and so is the culture of Arabia. Islam fit preIslamic Somali culture like a glove.

 

[among us]

That's fine, but when these people that complain about Arabization talk about dress, they reminisce about the women in the past.

Yes, these girls are wearing guntiino, but they updated it and are wearing it with a hijab. 60 years ago, women would wear the guntiino with their shoulders on display. The married ones might wear shaash or ileeyar, but still their arms were on display. Older women would probably be the ones that wore a gabaasar.

The point I made earlier is that cultures update. Hardly no one wears their traditional clothes unless they are at weddings or chilling at home. Even the 'Arab' female clothes you lot complain about is new in the Arab world.

Those girl or woman are wearing cabaret not hijab that is Arab word and second the Arab female cloth is Arab culture design by Arab like I said everything doesn't have to sound Arabic nor look Arab in order to Muslim and I agree with that th letter shoulders display

 

[Maxaa kaa galay]

Waryaa "reer anaa hotep" maa tahay most somalis dont speak af carabi, those that do of our generation are those that lived in arab countries. We use macaawis and that shit is borrowed from asia, probably came during when Aw barkhadle or Abdul of Mogadishus rule when we brought islam to Sri Lanka or Mauritius. I dont see speaking arabic as something wrong since most dont even speak it and if they do, its their third language.

If we are being culturally more arab, what more have "accepted from them" or are you just saying this to rile us up since you know we are a prideful people

i've seen this tactic be used by ex-muslims iyo "reer anaa hotep" more than once, so tell me sxb how "arabic" have we becomed?

 

[among us]

Out of all non Arab people's who have embraced Islam, the culture of the Somali and the Tuareg was the most similar to the culture of Arabia in the time of the prophet. Somali culture is a camel culture, and so is the culture of Arabia. Islam fit preIslamic Somali culture like a glove.

How did u came with that camel is Arab culture
Animals is animals doesn't no one culture everyone can domesticated if someone want it

 

[Aurelian]

What these people who complain about Arabization want is for women to abandon their hijabs and walk around wearing guntiino with our arms bare like our grandmothers and great-grandmothers on display. As Muslims we do not consider that progress, our ayeeyos in their youth did not understand that Islamically that is haraam. Now that they do alhamdulliah, they all wear the correct hijab.

The fact that as a nation we have let go of things that are boderline shirk and lack of hijab, is great! Inshallah I just hope one day our akhlaaq and spirituality matches our outward appearce.

Few pics can't tell much about the whole society in the past, this one of them problems of not recording your history. Women in Somalis dressed differently according to their location.

In my opinion, the more reer badiyo and consistently moving the more she wore less clothes, or the dressed was only one long piece of fabric wrapped on the body

 

[among us]

Waryaa ana "reer anaa hotep" maa tahay most somalis dont speak af carabi, those that do of our generation are those that lived in arab countries. We use macaawis and that shit is borrowed from asia, probably came during when Aw barkhadle or Abdul of Mogadishus rule when we brought islam to Sri Lanka or Mauritius. I dont see speaking arabic as something wrong since most dont even speak it and of they do, its their third language.

If we are being culturally more arab, what more have "accepted dem them" or are just saying this to rile us up since you know we are a prideful people

i've seen this tactic be used by ex-muslims iyo "reer anaa hotep" more than once, soo tell me sxb how "arabic" have we becomed?

U are arab