All in all a very weak hadith which is a complete antithesis to your earlier statement "There's an authentic hadith where the prophet asks his companions where the son sets, only to tell them it sets in a muddy spring of water. ".
Most of the evil perpetrated in the Ummah comes from man made hadith books. Al Shabab follow Prophet Bukharin, instead of Allah and his messenger. The Quran says Allah sent Muhammad (SAW) as a mercy to all mankind. He was the most compassionate, the most humane, and the most kind. Yet that is not what is in the hadiths. They say he beheaded, stoned, and tortured people. All this garbage comes fron hadiths. The word "hadith" is mostly used in a negative sense in the Quran. The overriding message in Allah's book is mercy. Anything which contradicts Allah's mercy should be discarded. We need human rights, freedom, and secularism. Because that is what Allah enjoined.
So muhammad knew about the expansion of the universe 1400 years ago without the assistance of satellites and modern technology,(buh buh why do we believe him)
,atheists these days
It's a question of faith. You either have it or you don't.
You have no evidence whatsoever. You're slandering people without justification. This is totally unIslamic.My evidence is the video I posted, no sane da'ee speaks this way about Prophet Lut's story being about "consent and not the act" other than Christian pastors who reform their belief to fit modern trends.
Its troubling for me hearing this stuff, as I have seen older videos of Shabir and liked him alot.
He wasn't talking gibberish. He was reviewing a book and going about it in an academic way. He's a PhD. He approaches things according to his scholastic training.Just watched this and he is correct here, and interprets the story of Lut correctly.
I don't understand why he was talking gibberish in the other video I was quoting you..
Agreed, I criticize idiotic wadaads all the time, but you've gotta do due diligence. Not slander innocent people.This is uncalled for, I am just calling out what I see as correct or incorrect.
This is what makes us different in Islam, we do not hold Priests/Rabbis as infallible, ie we can call out our religious scholars when they appear to err.
They are all human and non are infallible
Really 200 Hadiths, they are almost 1 million sahih hadiths from Bukhari alone. The chains are all good. All sahih hadiths don't contradict the Quran but it how you use it. Science in its own boat contradicts it self.
Man, learn Arabic and come.
Not all "sahih" hadiths contradict the Quran and reason, but many do. I quoted an exhaustive list earlier.
Let me tell you
Science can only measure laws in the natural world.
By following the hadiths that don't contradict the Quran or reason and rejecting the many that contradict the Quran and reason. As the sheikh said, Sahih Bukhari and other collections need to be edited to excise the bogus stuff. Hadiths are not divine, they're man made books with error and mistakes in them.
That's true. And hadiths in Bukhari go against the laws of the natural world. Some of them can be easily disproven such as the one that says that you will be unharmed by poison if you eat Ajwa dates. There's a very easy way to test this: eat some Ajwa dates, drink a bottle of bleach, and tell us how you get on. The sheikh points out other bogus hadiths to do with medicine.
take this with a grain of salt
Bogus arguments. Bloggers like that are always reduced to saying that scholars of Arabic who translate hadiths know less about Arabic than some random guy on the internet. It happens everytime their arguments are exposed. At first they claim that you've gotta speak Arabic or you can't comment, and then when you bring scholars of Arabic who translate hadiths, they claim thats not enough.take this with a grain of salt
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Waqar Akbar Cheema 12:37 AM في ajwa , bukhari , Cure , dates , Hadith , magic , poison , science , Science of Narration , seven 33 تعليقات
Other day a person, seemingly a Christian polemicist left me an email, challenging me on something which he thought was really a big deal. He quoted the following Hadith:
Narrated Sa’d: The Prophet said, "If somebody takes some 'Ajwa dates every morning, he will not be effected by poison or magic on that day till night." (Another narrator said seven dates). (Sahih Bukhari)
And then hurled the challenge;
are you today ready to take this simple challenge and eat 7 Ajwa dates and then drink poison and survive ?
The response:
The unfortunate fact is that most people in our time think that just reading any translation of Hadith texts, they can lay hands upon, is quite enough to have a full grasp of it and they find themselves worthy enough to comment. The practice might have had some justification if Hadith -or for that matter any classical Islamic text- was in some dead language hardly known to even the followers of the religion as it happened with Judaism and Christianity.
A basic principle in studying any historical narration is to understand the environment and context in which it originated. While it may not be possible to find details as to when and why was some particular words were uttered, another reasonable way is to see the complementing narrations before looking to reach a conclusion.
Sa’d told of hearing Allah’s Messenger say, “He who has a morning meal of seven ‘ajwa dates will not suffer harm that day through toxins or magic.” (Bukhari, Hadith 5327 and Muslim, Hadith 3814)
‘Aisha reported Allah’s Messenger as saying, “The ‘ajwah dates of al-‘Aliya contain healing, and they are an antidote (when taken as) first thing in the morning.” (Muslim, Hadith 3815)
‘Aisha reported Allah’s Messenger as saying, “The ‘ajwah dates of al-‘Aliya taken as the first thing in the morning, in the state of fasting; contain healing for all (kinds of) magic or toxins.” (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 23592)
Al-‘Aliya is the named applied to some villages a few miles east of Medina.
Narrated ‘Urwah: ‘Aisha used to order to make a habit of or taking in regular intervals seven ‘ajwah dates, in the state of fasting for seven mornings. (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, Hadith 23945)
Now considering all these narrations it becomes clear that the benefits mentioned are for link to certain specifics.
1- It is about 'Ajwa dates from al-Aliya, a particular locality near al-Medina
2- The benefit is for eating them early in the morning breaking the night fast with it
3- It is for the one who eats them regularly as Aisha (RA) used to instruct people. Her instruction matters for she is one of the narrators of the Hadith in question.
Now let me explain a few things:
"The Poison/Toxin": The word actually used is "summ" which means, poison or toxin. The problem is some people think it is about instantly killing poisonous stuff. However the fact mention in Hadith that it benefits when taken as the first thing early in the morning and on regular basis itself establishes that it is about toxins, which are indeed poisonous and harmful to the body.
Let me make it easy for you, In the nabi time there were no such things as laboratory acids. Poison were mainly poisonous plant extracts that in cases took days to kill you. Since you read Hadith in English it is not going to be 100% in Arabic. Like for example Jannah, it could mean Paradise, Heaven, Garden and more.
