Are we free in our Will or Are we NOT free???

[Basra]

Dateline- real crime documentary. A woman attorney gets killed by her psychologist husband. The couple met in college but never married immediately- the husband was ahead of her by 2 years. Both husband and wife were first married to another and they both divorced. The wife went after her college crush and married. They had two daughters. Years later- this so called crush husband killed his wife. The husband is a psychologist for Gods sake, he was using drugs- coke addict. How does this happen??? Mental health professional are not supposed to have drug problems. Anyway-- the police investigated years before arresting him. Which brings me to the question: Are we free?


No we are not. If you kill- u can run but u will be punished. The walls will close in ON you, and that is Gods promise.


Second of all, Did the killed wife run after her college crush or "love" her future killer subconsciously knowing she MUST do this????


Its like she was not free to live a free life. Her destiny is "Programmed" in her mind with illusion of crush and 'love' but really her brain was programmed for her destiny which is 2 kids and the husband killing her. Pre determined! Not free to choose.


So how can we be free if our future is already programed in us and makes us motivated to take a path already ordained! You are not free to choose another path!

 

[The truth seeker]

In the west you are free

 

[NordicSomali]

It’s wasn’t a deterministic path, there was a possibility that things could’ve ended up different, we don’t know what will happen but we can predict outcomes sometimes with good accuracy given factors of behavior that we already know by empirical evidence which will lead to certain outcomes, but it’s not a guarantee it will happen. It’s a probability.

 

[Hali101]

Sheep are such unfortunate animals! - there's always something happening to them! I never knew a flock pass a year without getting into some scrape or other."

 

[Basra]

In the west you are free


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What? Rubbish

 

[Basra]

It’s wasn’t a deterministic path, there was a possibility that things could’ve ended up different, we don’t know what will happen but we can predict outcomes sometimes with good accuracy given factors of behavior that we already know by empirical evidence which will lead to certain outcomes, but it’s not a guarantee it will happen. It’s a probability.

Sure it is not deterministic, and yes a possibility that things could've ended different, and yes WE DONT KNOW.


But what i am saying is- the "motivation" that will induce us to take a specific path is the control. It is just as deterministic as it is destiny.


For example -this lady had a crush on her husband for a long time. She asked her family to do the connection. They met- married and had a family, and was killed by him.


Right now i am just talking about the woman and her soul- not the husband. So the woman or wife whose destiny was to be killed by her husband- had strong urges and motivation for this man.

Its not like they met in a train by accident and fell in love.


The control or not being free is implanted in us by our different motivations to take certain paths,



for example i grew up in Africa loving American Hollywood movies, I was obsessed with America based on these internal urges- and i ended by in America while my siblings ended up other countries in the world



Yes we can guess and see how our lives will end up by empirical evidences but what if these empirical evidence is 90% our person desires and efforts which are implants or programmings?

 

[Basra]

Sheep are such unfortunate animals! - there's always something happening to them! I never knew a flock pass a year without getting into some scrape or other."

sheeps do not have active brains to install "motivations" they cannot be programed like humans.


They have a natural instincts or set in stones motivations which is to eat grass, and be lead by a Shepard