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[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg I think it's wise Australia stops immigration from Malis and Sudos. We need to adjust the population we have now into Australia and hopefully after we produce results and show how well integrated we are, then maybe just maybe the Australian govt will open up immigration to Somalis as long as they are sure that the new influx will immediately perform with of course the guidance of the established community.

But there is no point at this stage, we have enough here already and we need to set up as a community that is productive and will add to Australia multiculturalism not destroy it. Australia is a smart govt, it operates based on 'evidence' not 'party idealogy'.

Party idealogy only is to secure voters but the government irrespective is always told to run on 'smarts and evidence' by the established institutions, I know this is strange to you as an american lol with all your party philosophy nonsense and ignoring institutional advice like u saw with trump vs fauchi stuff like that is alien in our politics.

But your criminal argument of Somali Australian just shows you have no idea what u talking about.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg I don't deny American Somalis are the largest diaspora and most successful, but pound for pound, 8000 Somali Aussie diaspora vs 8000 Somali American diaspora, well your not the best diaspora pound for pound, that's all we are arguing.

No matter what metrics u try to seek against Somali aussies, your always 5 times worse off in the same topic.

 

[Djokovic]

This is not impressive Somalis in Australia have no power compared to the uk and Canada we have way more criminals which shows that we have more soft power in our countries

 

[Djokovic]

Australia needs to produce more criminals before they are labelled successful

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Periplus this will never happen for @Roorigeg

 

[DR OSMAN]

See @Periplus that's what I love about Australia, we quickly update if something is good and works. I just enjoy the range of homes and selections of houses we get. We even got solar n farm land suburbs. No need for A.C Or Heater.

 

[Djokovic]

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See @Periplus that's what I love about Australia, we quickly update if something is good and works. I just enjoy the range of homes and selections of houses we get. We even got solar n farm land suburbs. No need for A.C Or Heater.

Australia is china’s upti

 

[Man with a garuun]

@Periplus this will never happen for @Roorigeg

You're bragging about welfare now and low-income housing. I knew you and @Periplus were welfare queens.

Nevertheless, this is one agency in Columbus, Ohio. I don't use them as I live in my home which I paid off completely.



This is Seattle, WA: https://www.seattle.gov/housing/underdevelopment

At the federal level, there is a program called section 8 vouchers that assists poor, low-income people for housing assistance, and it is implemented throughout the USA. The Housing and Urban Development in the US govt is responsible for implementing this program. Thousands of poor Somalis are beneficiaries of this program, including millions of other poor Americans.

 

[Man with a garuun]

Well, the Australian govt didn't stop the Eritrean, Ethiopian, and DRC (Democratic Republic of Congo) refugees and asylum seekers. They only stopped the Somalis and South Sudanese. And when pressed and faced discriminatory charges, the Australian govt stated:

"No nationality is excluded from consideration, but the Australian Government does establish priorities each program year based on a range of inputs including NGO and community views put forward through the annual program consultations," he said."

Now, of there haven't been failures on the part of the Somali community in Australia, why would the Australian govt stated, "the Australian Government does establish priorities each program year based on a range of inputs including NGO and community views put forward through the annual program consultations"? Why would the communities and NGOs that interact with Somalis requested that they need to stop the Somali and Sudos refugee resettlement? The Somali community in Australia must have pushed people to the limits to the point where the Australian people and Australian govt don't want any more Somali asylum seekers.

Don't take it on me, it is the Australian and mainstream Australian people that have rejected Somali asylum seekers and refugees. It is pretty obvious the abysmal performance of the Somalis in Australia,.

@Roorigeg I think it's wise Australia stops immigration from Malis and Sudos. We need to adjust the population we have now into Australia and hopefully after we produce results and show how well integrated we are, then maybe just maybe the Australian govt will open up immigration to Somalis as long as they are sure that the new influx will immediately perform with of course the guidance of the established community.

But there is no point at this stage, we have enough here already and we need to set up as a community that is productive and will add to Australia multiculturalism not destroy it. Australia is a smart govt, it operates based on 'evidence' not 'party idealogy'.

Party idealogy only is to secure voters but the government irrespective is always told to run on 'smarts and evidence' by the established institutions, I know this is strange to you as an american lol with all your party philosophy nonsense and ignoring institutional advice like u saw with trump vs fauchi stuff like that is alien in our politics.

But your criminal argument of Somali Australian just shows you have no idea what u talking about.

 

[Man with a garuun]

@Roorigeg I don't deny American Somalis are the largest diaspora and most successful, but pound for pound, 8000 Somali Aussie diaspora vs 8000 Somali American diaspora, well your not the best diaspora pound for pound, that's all we are arguing.

No matter what metrics u try to seek against Somali aussies, your always 5 times worse off in the same topic.

Pound for pound, Australia doesn't want any more Somali refugees and asylum seekers resettling in Australia. That is because of their disappointments with Somalis already in Australia. The Australian govt statistics and Australian govt actions clearly document a community that has failed.

In contrast, Somalis in America are being promoted to the top cabinet positions. You guys are nowhere near to us. Murica all the way.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg we are discussing our social safety net to show u our 'lowest' and 'weakest' is doing better then your working poor who get like $7 an hour. I love base-lining on our vulnerable population because it shows you that Australia doesn't forget about them unlike your ghetto rats.

Using your own statistic we have only 25% unemployment rate our professional, managerial, and trade sector is a whopping 22% of our employment. Why is it you can't find stats for somali america professional rate, i'll tell u why? it's non-existent that's why u rely on 1 token negro.

If Australia is capping Somali n Sudos migration when we have 5 times less unemployment then america somali, it only shows they have a high expectation of migrants, unlike your americaa where your worse then our unemployment n crime rate stats but they still take u in, cuz america is garbage waryaa, australia doesn't want those garbage.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg Australia even forced America to take 1250 refugees from Nauru. They simply do not meet our refugee model standard, so we dumped them to america who took them. why? cuz america is already garbage it wont effect them

US-Australia refugee deal: Trump in 'worst call' with Turnbull

President Trump attacks 'dumb deal' to resettle asylum seekers from Australia to the US.

www.bbc.com

I love Australia strict border, we don't need garbage in here, it will ruin the nation. Besides it's your america wars in afg-iraq-syria that created the refugee disaster to begin with so it's only fair you take them to america not cry why Australia won't accept them. Man up you yankee bastard, if u f*ck up ppl's home, also accept the collateral damage(refugees) on your door-step. Don't ask us to take in what is essentially collateral damage from america's foreign policy.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Waryaa @Roorigeg this is where Somalis live in Sydney and it's nothing fancy in australian standard. So even our non-fancy areas are ten times better living then America.


See each suburb in Australia has designated parklands, skate-parks, bbq facilities.

PS - notice i compare our GHETTOS while u respond with your high end suburbs, that shows u even our ghettos are comparable to america high end suburbs. That's the difference waryaa, even the worst area in australia is ten times better then america. I could sure u range of high-end suburbs and u wud be 'gobsmacked' how behind america is.

It's time u drop the american arrogance waryaa and visit Australia, u won't leave i can guarantee u when u see your salary 'triple' and your 8 times safer and your kids can eventually get a proper education where they are not scanned for weapons like your schools.

Im glad Australia closed the flood-gates or else our living standards that we enjoy will considerably drop and we won't be among the most livable cities in the world.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg and as far as your so called higher GDP per capita, we don't work 2 months of the year due to mandatory 4 weeks holiday, 2 week sick allowance, and 2 week public holiday through-out the year. We are technically a market that works 10 months. Where-as your working 12 months in america as u have no conditions. If we worked the same hours as you, our GDP wud be the same but we prefer work n life balance, something u lack.

I can't wait till your futo becomes old and u cry how america used you like a condom in your young years and forget about u in your twilight years, me and @Periplus will be like we TOLD u australia is greater.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Look at the 6:15 mark here, the african dude he couldn't hold himself back and said Australia WAYYYYYYYYYYY better then America

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg me and @Periplus want Somalia to Follow Australia development standards. We want a proper 'cbd or downtown' for all businesses, residential areas zoned only to allow only small market places, a green space incorporated in each residential area, we want primary/secondary schools and police stations located in the area. We demand a separate industrial zone for warehouses and manufacturing.

We want our capitalism model to encourage small to medium enterprise and limit corporations as only shareholders benefit not the wider community.

We want a FAIR WORK SOMALIA like Fair Work Australia institution that regulates the shit out of salaries to ensure we are paid according to cost of living indexes as this can generate market spending that will benefit our small to medium businesses. We want Somalia to always sister up with Australia not America. With a fair work somalia, somalia will be seen as the working man paradise and all africans will flee here. But if we follow america model, no-one will come to Somalia as it's only going to benefit a small group of shareholders.

As aussie slogan goes 'everyone is given a fair go' in this country and we want the same in Somalia.

 

[Man with a garuun]

@Roorigeg Australia even forced America to take 1250 refugees from Nauru. They simply do not meet our refugee model standard, so we dumped them to america who took them. why? cuz america is already garbage it wont effect them

US-Australia refugee deal: Trump in 'worst call' with Turnbull

President Trump attacks 'dumb deal' to resettle asylum seekers from Australia to the US.

www.bbc.com

I love Australia strict border, we don't need garbage in here, it will ruin the nation. Besides it's your america wars in afg-iraq-syria that created the refugee disaster to begin with so it's only fair you take them to america not cry why Australia won't accept them. Man up you yankee bastard, if u f*ck up ppl's home, also accept the collateral damage(refugees) on your door-step. Don't ask us to take in what is essentially collateral damage from america's foreign policy.

Australia fights America's wars since she and UK were the only 2 countries who joined America in the unprovoked attack against Iraq. Australia also joined America in the attack against Afghanistan. Australia also joined America in the Korean war. So while America invades other countries, Australia is its satellite state that would go and join them. You don't even have your own foreign policy, so stop the false bravado.

Besides, you went to Australia or your parents did as refugees. So why would you call other refugees "garbage". You're really uncle tom. Besides, it is stain on the Australian govt that it arrested asylum seekers in an island in another country. It was Barrack Obama who decided to take those refugees on humanitarian grounds. Trump refused them because he was rightwinger. And it clearly shows what kind of evil running your govt.

 

[Man with a garuun]

@Roorigeg we are discussing our social safety net to show u our 'lowest' and 'weakest' is doing better then your working poor who get like $7 an hour. I love base-lining on our vulnerable population because it shows you that Australia doesn't forget about them unlike your ghetto rats.

Many American states pay $15 per hour as the minimum wage. Take for example Seattle or CA. The minimum wage has been increased. The poor in America get subsidized healthcare, implemented by Barrack Obama. It is based on your income. If you're unemployed or receive benefits, you get a free healthcare. If you get laid off not on your fault and you worked a minimum of 6 months, you get unemployment insurance.

When employed, the number of vacation days vary. You at minimum get 2 weeks of vacation pay, plus similar amount of sick days. If you're a woman who is giving birth, you qualify for a family leave act.. If you get injured, you qualify for short term disability. If you're permanently disabled, you qualify for long-term disability, plus Social Security income.

As for pension, if you worked 40 credits, which is 10 years, you automatically qualify for SSI benefits, and the amount you receive on monthly basis depends upon your income. Plus we have a 401k that you put it in 6% of your salary for pension without being taxed by either federal or state govts in every year. You can also put in roth IRA, which is another form of pension, but it is money you put in after tax.

I saw many progressive and liberal politicians who want to improve the system, but they never use Australia as a model; they use Denmark as a model.

Using your own statistic we have only 25% unemployment rate our professional, managerial, and trade sector is a whopping 22% of our employment. Why is it you can't find stats for somali america professional rate, i'll tell u why? it's non-existent that's why u rely on 1 token negro.

You're spewing a hot air. You're lowest under performing group of people in Australia. Every other immigrant is outperforming you. Your median income is $378 per week when Australia's poverty line 423 per week for singles. That is a disaster. It got to the point where the Austalian govt doesn't want any more Somali immigration.

Whereas in Minnesota, Somalis are outperforming the natives. 77% of Somali men and 61% of Somali women have been reported to be working, plus 7.7% who were classified as disabled. 77% + 7.7% gives you 84.7%. What is not reported was 15.3%, which could be young adults attending colleges or truck drivers who didn't respond to the survey. The cab/tax drivers also make their money and don't report it since it is on cash basis. So all of the numbers of Somalis in Minnesota have been counted. Keep in mind, it wasn't scientific nor based on real data. It was based on survey where people voluntarily answered those questions.

If Australia is capping Somali n Sudos migration when we have 5 times less unemployment then america somali, it only shows they have a high expectation of migrants, unlike your americaa where your worse then our unemployment n crime rate stats but they still take u in, cuz america is garbage waryaa, australia doesn't want those garbage.

If you reach America's shores, you get processed under the law and given a fair hearing. Nobody is arresting you and throwing you in an island in the Pacific. You're given a work permit while your case is decided. And even if you get rejected, you still get a work permit. For Somalis, we have a TPS (Temporary Protected Status) where you stay in America and work until Somalia gets better and get its acts together.

You used the word garbage, what is more garbage then basing immigration policy based on a national origin. It doesn't mean every Somali and South Sudanese is a bad person, why exclude them from the list if asylum seekers? That is evil. And remember they're basing it on their perception and interactions with the Somalis in Australia. You guys are a disaster.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg our social safety system doesn't depend on if u worked or didn't, it's universal and u can be unemployed for life and still access it and switch to age pension. Your age pension depends on your salary and working history loooooooooool. Your 401k is employee contributions, our 401k is mandatory employer contribution, they add a minimum of 10% on top of your salary into your retirement nest egg some even up to 16% if u work for government. Your welfare is time restricted too, where-as ours is indefinite and only stops if you get a job, no-one will tell u you only have 12 months before it's expired like your system.

As u said your holiday leave is no match to ours. Ours is mandatory 4 weeks a year, but some professional industry provide 6 weeks, but I am talking what's mandatory.

We get paid on public holidays which is 14 days through-out the year. 2 weeks sick allowance is bare minimum, even tho most professional organisation provide 3-4 weeks. We also have paid paternity and maternity leave for 12 months, do u waryaa? of course not.

We also pay our students 1k a month in study payments while their at school and they can work on top of that also. Your healthcare isn't universal, it's similar to our dental system, we give it to only low income people free but I never boast about that since it's not universal for all income brackets. Your healthcare majority have to pay their own way with private insurance and your surgeries-specialists-testing-doctors-medicine are so over-priced.

Do u think we don't have your big ass americans in australia praising our system of healthcare

 

[DR OSMAN]

Waryaa @Roorigeg look at this honest assessment

Average annual salary: $54,401 (£40,083)

Australia, the land of koalas, the great barrier reef, and the famous Sydney opera house, is an expensive country with salaries averaging over $54,000, even for non-skilled jobs. The nation has a bustling tourism industry, well-developed financial services, steel and industrial equipment and mining. Australia also has quite stringent immigration rules and only accepts skilled workers into the country.

U see even unskilled markets get paid high, this is the factor I was using to show you that your blue collar industries pay minimum wage only your white collar industries pay high. So you have an un-even market place, where-as that's not the case in Australia.

Average annual salary: $65,836 (£48,500)

The United States’ economy is highly developed and diverse. The country is self-sufficient in many areas and plays a significant role on the international scene in numerous sectors. The one advantage of the US is its immigration system which attracts the best from all other nations, resulting in excellence in many work-related areas. There is a reason why some people trek through an entire continent just for the chance of getting into the world’s largest economy. The country is immense, and for those who work hard, the American dream is still possible.

The country excels in various fields, including aerospace, engineering, mining, automobile manufacturing, farming and more. Jobs are relatively easy to find in the US, provided one is an American citizen or has the appropriate work visa.

The other thing to note with our economy, we don't work 2 months of the year and it's all paid for thru either holiday-sick allowance-public holidays so essentially if we did work as long as america we would have a highr wage.

The other thing we need to note about our industries we GET PAID TIME N HALF for night work and double pay for week-end or public holiday work. Something that doesn't exist in your america. I mean I showed u waryaa a lebanese brick-layer owning a mansion, where in the world do u see bricklayers owning mansions?