Aw-Barkhadle

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My Maternal Great Grandmother was Jarso on both sides she was born in Hirna in 1920's around 120km from Dire Dawa, in her late teens to early 20's she meet my maternal great-grandfather in Jigigia who is Gadabursi(Xeebjire) paternally and Issa maternally, a lot has changed in the last 100 years.
dos this mean your great grandmother was indeginous or your great grand father bro anyone can live anywhere.
 
Your not wrong expect that is af maxa tiri. In af maay which is a prestigious dielect that preserved many ancient somali vocabulary and it's pronunciation still use gaal for camel. You've got somali clan names such as gaaljecel means lover of camels. Geel use to be pronounced gaal but it changed in af maxa tiri while af maay persevered as it's. The rendille which is a somaloid group use gaal for camel.
I know about the rendille I lived in marsabit for a year they are not somali walal they have been spreading bull shit to you they r there own group, and rahweyn aren't even somali it is a very large confederacy with Madows Arabs and Indians. Af may is a completely different language not dialect.
 
My Maternal Great Grandmother was Jarso on both sides she was born in Hirna in 1920's around 120km from Dire Dawa, in her late teens to early 20's she meet my maternal great-grandfather in Jigigia who is Gadabursi(Xeebjire) paternally and Issa maternally, a lot has changed in the last 100 years
Jijiga was Akisho, AND obo oromo land.
 

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I know about the rendille I lived in marsabit for a year they are not somali walal they have been spreading bull shit to you they r there own group,
In terms of language rendille definitely speak a somaloid language and i can confirm this myself having listened to it.

and rahweyn aren't even somali it is a very large confederacy with Madows Arabs and Indians. Af may is a completely different language not dialect
The name rahanweyn itself is somali also rahanweyn aren't the only speakrs of af maay tiri there is also digil iyo mirifle.

Af may is a completely different language not dialect.
I've heard this argument before and regardless of how you may classified it's ultimately considered part of the somali language family and i myself could understand 60-80% of it plus it's vocabulary is pretty much the same as that of af maxa tiri.
 
they are not called rahwyn it was a name given to them lets be honest rahweyn are esbaheys they are eeelay oromo Indian shanshi and Madows with some (Maay) amongst them. if your saying maay is somali you might swell just say Afar Oromo, and other Cushitic groups are aswel.
 
In terms of language rendille definitely speak a somaloid language and i can confirm this myself having listened to it.


The name rahanweyn itself is somali also rahanweyn aren't the only speakrs of af maay tiri there is also digil iyo mirifle.


I've heard this argument before and regardless of how you may classified it's ultimately considered part of the somali language family and i myself could understand 60-80% of it plus it's vocabulary is pretty much the same as that of af maxa tiri.
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they are not called rahwyn it was a name given to them lets be honest rahweyn are esbaheys they are eeelay oromo Indian shanshi and Madows with some (Maay) amongst them. if your saying maay is somali you might swell just say Afar Oromo, and other Cushitic groups are aswel.
It's their name Reewin=rahawayn no one have given them that name.
They're somalis, nothing about them is madow or oromo, Stop speaking out of your ass you ignorant larper.
Also here every language that falls under "somaloid" is considered a somali language.
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It's their name Reewin=rahawayn no one have given them that name.
They're somalis, nothing about them is madow or oromo, Stop speaking out of your ass you ignorant larper.
Also here every language that falls under "somaloid" is considered a somali language.
View attachment 302265you probably made this your self. im telling you now your delusional if you think rahweyn, and Rendille are somali, different language and completely very very very different culture. the rendille do not even border the somali, they are surrounded by the Boorana clan In marsabit and have a small border with Madow to the west.
 

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they are not called rahwyn it was a name given to them lets be honest rahweyn are esbaheys they are eeelay oromo Indian shanshi and Madows with some (Maay) amongst them. if your saying maay is somali you might swell just say Afar Oromo, and other Cushitic groups are aswel.
As @Somali_patriotic showcased this is a factual truth in linguistics and as for their ethnic makeup they're somalis who includes plethora of somali clans hence why they're said to be a confederacy. You said that they include arabs indians etc. Any claim requires proof do you have any?
 
As @Somali_patriotic showcased this is a factual truth in linguistics and as for their ethnic makeup they're somalis who includes plethora of somali clans hence why they're said to be a confederacy. You said that they include arabs indians etc. Any claim requires proof do you have any?
me honestly I don't know I just grew up hearing rahweyn are esbaheys. but In no doubt have the rahweyn intermarried these groups.
 
but really am I right or right if this man claims Ethnic Maay speaking peoples are somali you might as well claim Cush is swell because of the ''similarities''.
 

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but really am I right or right if this man claims Ethnic Maay speaking peoples are somali you might as well claim Cush is swell because of the ''similarities''.
It's not only due to similarities in both culture and language which points towards a common origin but also their oral history and lineage further cement their somali identity same thing cannot be said about "cush".
 
It's not only due to similarities in both culture and language which points towards a common origin but also their oral history and lineage further cement their somali identity same thing cannot be said about "cush".
wym? history and lineage there lineage leads to Digil and Mirlfle. they claim there ancestor to be Saab who was the brothers of Adali, Oromo, Samaale etc
 

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wym? history and lineage there lineage leads to Digil and Mirlfle. they claim there ancestor to be Saab who was the brothers of Adali, Oromo, Samaale etc
Digil iyo mirfle are descended from sab brother of samaale and both of them are sons of hiil abroone. There is no oromo or afar in this linage.
 
Digil iyo mirfle are descended from sab brother of samaale and both of them are sons of hiil abroone. There is no oromo or afar in this linage.
I personally think my self that abtirisi is bull shit because where does Cush come into the picture that leads to Ali ibn abdulmuttalib
 

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I personally think my self that abtirisi is bull shit because where does Cush come into the picture that leads to Ali ibn abdulmuttalib
and if you claim this you are claiming Somalis are Semitic and are not indigenous to the horn.
This is a somali abtirsi inherited from one generation to another and it doesn't include cush which is a recent nomenclature designated for these who speak a branch of the afro-asiatic language family, it use to be called hamitic before they changed it into cushitic. There is no cush in somali abtirsi. This abitrsi doesn't also include any arab linage which is usually add it on top of the actual lineage.
 
This is a somali abtirsi inherited from one generation to another and it doesn't include cush which is a recent nomenclature designated for these who speak a branch of the afro-asiatic language family, it use to be called hamitic before they changed it into cushitic. There is no cush in somali abtirsi. This abitrsi doesn't also include any arab linage which is usually add it on top of the actual lineage.
this is funny because my father used to mention Kush - Areele Galan Musse Isse-Madobe Dir Irir Samaale Cush.
 

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