Barawe Port Deal
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Why do people think that you can develop buy selling ports and land ? Look how nice djboutis port is. It would take decades for the other ports to reach djboutis level. Yet even with 10 times the investment any Somali port is likley to receive how much has that translated into development?
Rather Kuwait than uae tho.
. Plus it's illegal as matters concerning customs infrastructure and natural resources are FGS domain. If it's not some vapourware deal ( Qatar Hobyo) it can be renegotiated on better terms. Keep those fish and meat factories though.
200km?! Somalia will start being carved out and be proxy states for other countries for soon.
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Let them secure that full 200km from AS and start phase 1 of construction without any bombs going off onsite then I might take buddy serious
What kinda BS is this? Developing Barawe as a Major Port Makes No Strategic Sense. Barawe is not an ideal location for a major port investment, and prioritizing it over other key ports in Somalia is a questionable decision.
The logic behind turning Barawe into a major hub doesnât hold up economically, geographically, or strategically.
First of all Barawe is too close to Mogadishu (only about 180 km away), making it redundant. Mogadishu already has a large, well-established port that serves the region.
Not a major trade corridor unlike Berbera or Kismayo, Barawe does not sit on a critical regional trade route.
For example Kismayo is a key southern port that could serve Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somaliaâs interior.
Minimal economic activity in the region,without major industries, businesses, or strong agricultural/export production nearby, who will actually use this port?
Barawe is in the South, where Al-Shabaab remains active, posing a significant security risk .Foreign investors and businesses may not even use the port if the region remains unstable.
There are reason why Barawe declined in modern times, Barawe lacks natural deep-water access, which is essential for large cargo ships and international trade vessels. Ports like Mogadishu, Berbera, Bosaso and Kismayo already have deeper waters and are better suited for large-scale shipping.
If big ships canât dock there, the port has no real purpose in international trade.
200km around the area as "special zone", sounds like a land grab, not a serious investment for development. This looks more like a foreign land acquisition than a real infrastructure project.
The logic behind turning Barawe into a major hub doesnât hold up economically, geographically, or strategically.
First of all Barawe is too close to Mogadishu (only about 180 km away), making it redundant. Mogadishu already has a large, well-established port that serves the region.
Not a major trade corridor unlike Berbera or Kismayo, Barawe does not sit on a critical regional trade route.
For example Kismayo is a key southern port that could serve Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somaliaâs interior.
Minimal economic activity in the region,without major industries, businesses, or strong agricultural/export production nearby, who will actually use this port?
Barawe is in the South, where Al-Shabaab remains active, posing a significant security risk .Foreign investors and businesses may not even use the port if the region remains unstable.
There are reason why Barawe declined in modern times, Barawe lacks natural deep-water access, which is essential for large cargo ships and international trade vessels. Ports like Mogadishu, Berbera, Bosaso and Kismayo already have deeper waters and are better suited for large-scale shipping.
If big ships canât dock there, the port has no real purpose in international trade.
200km around the area as "special zone", sounds like a land grab, not a serious investment for development. This looks more like a foreign land acquisition than a real infrastructure project.
Foreign companies come to extract profit, not to uplift the local economy.
They hire their own people, send the profits back to their home countries, and limit local ownership.
Development only works when locals have control and benefit from the projects not when assets are handed to outsiders.
Diboutiâs case is a great example even though it has one of the most advanced ports in Africa, the wealth doesnât trickle down to the people. Instead, foreign companies and elites profit while ordinary Djiboutians remain economically stagnant.
Somalia should learn from this and avoid the same fate
He is selling our country piece by piece, Literally allowing ajnabis to set up neo-colonies.This guy HSM is working overtime to f*ck over as much citizens as possible before his term ends, At this rate somalia will be sucked dry of its potential and it wont matter if a good leader comes around cause by then it would be too late.
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this isnât hsm doings itâs laftagareen,
HSM indirectly caused this by weakening the governments key institutions that would have prevented this, like the SNA. Odawa is currently re-recruiting and restructuring SNA after HSM destroyed them during his âwar on ASâ in which government soldiers were routinely ambushed. Soldiers who refused suspicions orders from HSMâs installed military commanders got demoted for insubordination. These soldiers were getting demoted and removed from the military for refusing orders that were putting them at risk of being ambushed by AS.
Sudan is a failed nation
Malawi leased farmland to Djibouti? Thats news to me, apparently they use it export crops to djibouti
China owns farmland everywhere, they have even been buying up farmland next to key US military installations.
This is why a pure capitalist model is dumb and pragmatic socialism is better, because it prevents foreigners from controlling peoples local economy through purchasing and fake investment schemes. Because capitalist will sell things with only short term profit in mind and not with the long term sustainability in mind.
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According to Hiraan they are still in the talks and discussions about it, but it hasn't been finalized.
hiiraan.com
This is really bad looking at the details, the lack of transperancy and oversight, they are basically granting them full ownership and at the same time selling off the natural resources.
Here is what Somalis should do:
Demand Full Transparency â The Somali people must demand public disclosure of this dealâs terms before itâs finalized.
Push for Somali Ownership â Somalia should lease management, not ownership, just like Puntland did with Bosaso.
Block Unilateral Regional Deals â Federal states should not sign away Somali resources without full national oversight.
The Barawa deal must be renegotiated or rejected.. In my opinion they should reject any deal to develop a port in Barawa, it make no sense. It reads like a land grab and wealth extraction scheme.
I am going to email this one Somali organization about this.
Southwest State of Somalia signs $500M deal with Kuwaiti firm to develop Barawa port
Mogadishu (HOL) â The South West State administration has signed a $500 million agreement with Kuwaiti conglomerate Arabic Holding to expand and operate the Barawa Port, a move expected to boost regional trade and strengthen Somalia's economy.
This is really bad looking at the details, the lack of transperancy and oversight, they are basically granting them full ownership and at the same time selling off the natural resources.
Here is what Somalis should do:
Demand Full Transparency â The Somali people must demand public disclosure of this dealâs terms before itâs finalized.
Push for Somali Ownership â Somalia should lease management, not ownership, just like Puntland did with Bosaso.
Block Unilateral Regional Deals â Federal states should not sign away Somali resources without full national oversight.
The Barawa deal must be renegotiated or rejected.. In my opinion they should reject any deal to develop a port in Barawa, it make no sense. It reads like a land grab and wealth extraction scheme.
I am going to email this one Somali organization about this.
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I also looked into the DP world port deal with Bosaso and Berbera. I never looked into it far too much on the Berbera side of things of what the deal entails, because i assumed it would be like Bosaso where local government has full ownership at 100% and uses mostly it's own work force pulled from the locals in hiring for port operations, expansion, and logistics.
But in Bebera, DP world Dubai are bringing their own workers and not even creating job oppurtunities for people in Berbera. Since DP World owns 51% of Berbera port, they control hiring decisions. Many high-paying management and technical jobs are given to foreign staff (from UAE, India, and elsewhere), not Somalis.
Some reports suggest that even basic port jobs are outsourced rather than fully staffed by locals.
90 % of the port revenue in Bosaso goes straight to the government's budget because they have full ownership of the port.
SL actually traded part of it's ownership in a bid to secure recognition , waa wax yab leh.
Luckily Berbera's situation can actually be reversed , it was under weak terms that can be re-negotiated. DP World has lost port contracts in Djibouti and other countries due to unfair terms. If Somaliland unites politically on this issue, DP World will be forced to listen.
But in Bebera, DP world Dubai are bringing their own workers and not even creating job oppurtunities for people in Berbera. Since DP World owns 51% of Berbera port, they control hiring decisions. Many high-paying management and technical jobs are given to foreign staff (from UAE, India, and elsewhere), not Somalis.
Some reports suggest that even basic port jobs are outsourced rather than fully staffed by locals.
90 % of the port revenue in Bosaso goes straight to the government's budget because they have full ownership of the port.
SL actually traded part of it's ownership in a bid to secure recognition , waa wax yab leh.
Luckily Berbera's situation can actually be reversed , it was under weak terms that can be re-negotiated. DP World has lost port contracts in Djibouti and other countries due to unfair terms. If Somaliland unites politically on this issue, DP World will be forced to listen.
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