Breaking News: Federal States suspend relations with the one bedroom Villa Xamar

[Cognitivedissonance]

Development is not exclusive to federalism. KSA is a centralised state yet development happens all over the country. Development and federalism are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
I do not oppose federalism (saying this for 10000th time)

Wallahi there will never be a centralised system in somalia ever again Puntland is the backbone of somalia

 

[nine]

Wallahi there will never be a centralised system in somalia ever again Puntland is the backbone of somalia

PL is very different to the south. Federalism can work good on one clan but not multiple clans. Imagine if Nugaal was a Marehan gobol and Marehan had a large presence in Bosaso. Things would be different. You see my point.
Federalism works with PL but other places are a different story.

Anyway saxib good on PL for development

 

[SomaliMVP]

I posted three videos you idiot three pictures kulaha what a hater alhamdulillah i dont have to share anything with the likes of you and your people to you your religion and to me mine.

I have seen those videos a long ass time ago. Garowe isn't the only city in Puntland.
The city is built with aid. A few roads are nice but what use does it have when there is no economy?
Where are the factories? Where are the jobs? High paying taxable jobs is what I care about. Those will never come to Somalia without a centralized government. But I think that you might be too stupid to understand that.

i dont have to share anything with the likes of you and your people to you your religion and to me mine.

Then fucking don't you idiot.

 

[Abdalla]

I didn't know having a social life wasn't allowed here.



You and @Cognitivedissonance keep showing a few nice pictures of a few well-lit roads in Puntland and you think that it is going to impress me?



Puntland didn't build those on its own. It was all donated by the west and the funds went trough Gaas his personal bank account first before anything was built. If you go off the main roads you will drive on those shitty roads that you know so well and love. You want Puntland to live on charity from others instead of building your country. Aid will only get you so far and at some point, countries will get tired of all the corruption and they will stop the aid.



I also don't understand your undying loyalty to Gaas. What has he personally done for you? I don't think that you live in Puntland. You didn't vote for him. You were not part of the process but somehow that man is your king. You don't pay taxes in Puntland but you talk like you are part of it.

I keep telling you that I have higher standards than yours. You are happy with a few roads paid with aid so that you can post them on twitter or SS. I am not. If Gaas was so great, how many high paying taxable jobs has he created? How many factories has he opened? I can tell you: None. No one is going to invest in Puntland when the roads in Somalia are shit and the electricity is too expensive. Puntland will never be able to fix those on its own so you do need the rest of Somalia.

If you want the youth in Puntland to have jobs and not flee to the west you should be open for reconciliation and a centralized government in Xamar. When I say a centralized government in Xamar you as a qabiilist will read it as give the hawiye the power. That is not what I mean. I mean a government where the people in it didn't pay for their seat, a system where every politician doesn't have a dual nationality, a system that isn't based on the 4.5 system, a system that works for every Somali from Awdal to Lower Juba. You have no idea how many resources Somalia has. If we all worked together you have no idea what we can achieve.

You would rather live in a shithole that your family owns than a paradise where your family isn't completely in charge.

If you think that private houses and shops were built by aid, then you're dumber than you seem like. I already had a low perception of you, because you choose a party over a good fkd but this takes the cake. And if aid money could do wonders, Xamar wouldnt be in this mess as they receive up to a billion of aid every year.

BTW not sure why you bring Gaas into this. Puntland existed before Gaas and will exist after Gaas.

Bosaso when there was a central government vs Bosaso during federalism.

 

[Abdalla]

I posted three videos you idiot three pictures kulaha what a hater alhamdulillah i dont have to share anything with the likes of you and your people to you your religion and to me mine.

As Farole use to say 'ciisa bi diin wa Musa bi diin'. Isa has its own religion and Musa has it's own religion.

 

[SomaliMVP]

If you think that private houses and shops were built by aid, then you're dumber than you seem like. I already had a low perception of you, because you choose a party over a good fkd but this takes the cake. And if aid money could do wonders, Xamar wouldnt be in this mess as they receive up to a billion of aid every year.

BTW not sure why you bring Gaas into this. Puntland existed before Gaas and will exist after Gaas.

Bosaso when there was a central government vs Bosaso during federalism.

The roads are paid for by aid and the shops and hotels are paid for by private citizens. It is progress but it isn't everything. It would have been build with or without Puntland. Xamar is and has been a shithole for the last 30 years and you will find the same development there.

What Puntland needs are high paying jobs. You won't find those because there is no industry. Tell me what Puntland produces and exports to the rest of the world? Nothing.
Because no one in their right mind will invest in Somalia when there isn't even basic infrastructure. I feel sorry for you that you are too retarded to understand that.

I am not choosing a party. What party am I choosing again? I am choosing our country over a qabiilstate because that is the only way our country will move forward.

 

[Abdalla]

I am not choosing a party. What party am I choosing again? I am choosing our country over a qabiilstate because that is the only way our country will move forward.

You dumb f*ck, you said you were getting ready for a party last night.

 

[SomaliMVP]

You dumb f*ck, you said you were getting ready for a party last night.

Lol! Social life > Some dumb M.D in Majeerteentitis.

Anyway, show me dem jobs. Where dem jobs at?
I want to see the industry in Puntland. I want to see wealth being created.
Impress me. I'm waiting.

 

[Abdalla]

Lol! Social life > Some dumb M.D in Majeerteentitis.

Anyway, show me dem jobs. Where dem jobs at?
I want to see the industry in Puntland. I want to see wealth being created.
Impress me. I'm waiting.

Alright challenge accepted. Puntland regions were called gaari-waa before the civil war, the unreachable land with zero infrastructure and institutions available. Lo and behold, two decades later, Puntland performs the best in EVERY economic indicators. Puntland has the least inequality rates, the lowest poverty rates in Somalia, even lower than powerful east African nations like Ethiopia and Kenya. Highest education attainment, highest graduation rates, and highest participation in the job market.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/huge-world-bank-poverty-survey.31811/

Please read the thread and the report. Keep in mind how empty Puntland was. Refer to the pic of Bosaso I posted.

 

[SomaliMVP]

Alright challenge accepted. Puntland regions were called gaari-waa before the civil war, the unreachable land with zero infrastructure and institutions available. Lo and behold, two decades later, Puntland performs the best in EVERY economic indicators. Puntland has the least inequality rates, the lowest poverty rates in Somalia, even lower than powerful east African nations like Ethiopia and Kenya. Highest education attainment, highest graduation rates, and highest participation in the job market.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/huge-world-bank-poverty-survey.31811/

Please read the thread and the report. Keep in mind how empty Puntland was. Refer to the pic of Bosaso I posted.

I agree that Puntland has developed well with the aid and remittance but I am talking about building an industry here. High paying taxable jobs. Show me factories. Show me jobs where people are being paid more than $200 a month. Show me goods being produced in Puntland.

Puntland has developed well over the last decade but now it needs investors to invest in the highly educated graduates that are looking for a job. Because Somalia doesn't have a national electrical grid or a national highway no one will invest. All of this will never be built without a centralized government. Education without a chance for employment is useless. How do you not get that?

So let me ask you again? Where are the high paying jobs at? If Puntland is so developed there must be some factories that you can show me right?
I'm waiting.

 

[Abdalla]

I agree that Puntland has developed well with the aid and remittance but I am talking about building an industry here. High paying taxable jobs. Show me factories. Show me jobs where people are being paid more than $200 a month. Show me goods being produced in Puntland.

Puntland has developed well over the last decade but now it needs investors to invest in the highly educated graduates that are looking for a job. Because Somalia doesn't have a national electrical grid or a national highway no one will invest. All of this will never be built without a centralized government. Education without a chance for employment is useless. How do you not get that?

So let me ask you again? Where are the high paying jobs at? If Puntland is so developed there must be some factories that you can show me right?
I'm waiting.

You're disregarding where Puntland came from if youre asking for a vibrant industrial sector which is nonexistent in Africa. If you take where puntland was 20 years ago into consideration, you admire the societal, institutional and economic progress.

 

[Balqisa]

I agree that Puntland has developed well with the aid and remittance but I am talking about building an industry here. High paying taxable jobs. Show me factories. Show me jobs where people are being paid more than $200 a month. Show me goods being produced in Puntland.

Puntland has developed well over the last decade but now it needs investors to invest in the highly educated graduates that are looking for a job. Because Somalia doesn't have a national electrical grid or a national highway no one will invest. All of this will never be built without a centralized government. Education without a chance for employment is useless. How do you not get that?

So let me ask you again? Where are the high paying jobs at? If Puntland is so developed there must be some factories that you can show me right?
I'm waiting.

I agree . An education without a job after is useless

 

[SomaliMVP]

You're disregarding where Puntland came from if youre asking for a vibrant industrial sector which is nonexistent in Africa. If you take where puntland was 20 years ago into consideration, you admire the societal, institutional and economic progress.

I am not. I applaud Puntland for what it has achieved. But I am also thinking where Puntland is going. You want to compare Puntland to the rest of Africa but I don't. I keep telling you that my standards are higher than yours. I want more for my people.

There will never be a vibrant industrial sector in Puntland or anywhere in Somalia without the cooperation of the whole country.

 

[Abdalla]

I am not. I applaud Puntland for what it has achieved. But I am also thinking where Puntland is going. You want to compare Puntland to the rest of Africa but I don't. I keep telling you that my standards are higher than yours. I want more for my people.

There will never be a vibrant industrial sector in Puntland or anywhere in Somalia without the cooperation of the whole country.

You're a dreamer a phony and a hater. How can the regions that I'm outperforming in every economic aspect uplift me?

 

[SomaliMVP]

You're a dreamer a phony and a hater.

Says the Professor/M.D in Majeerteenitis/Engineer.

How can the regions that I'm outperforming in every economic aspect uplift me?

Peace and stability in the rest of Somalia will mean more investment in Somalia. Now there isn't an electrical grid, high way etc and they will never come to Puntland without the help and cooperation of the rest of the country.
No infrastructure means No industry.
No industry means No high paying jobs for the highly educated graduates in Puntland.

How can you be so stupid not to understand that?

 

[SomaliMVP]

@Abdalla is nowhere to be seen after showing him that Puntland needs the rest of Somalia.



Where you at my man? Can't you handle the truth?

 

[Ferrari]

Whats the process normally for appointing an SNA commander? Whose job is it? and is there any proof that he's seeking to oust Madoobe?

Ask yourself a question, can he assign a general to puntland without telling gaas? He can't even if he did.

If he is the president of the country why can't he?

 

[nine]

You're a dreamer a phony and a hater. How can the regions that I'm outperforming in every economic aspect uplift me?

Humans need each other. Whether we like or not Federal States and Xamar will need to actively work together for more development. UK has trade with other European countries.

If you're opting for a completely self sufficient PL economy then I understand

Ask yourself a question, can he assign a general to puntland without telling gaas? He can't even if he did.

If he is the president of the country why can't he?

He is "One Bedroom Villa Somalia" like the other niggas before him. But he assigned Bogmadow and Bogmadow went to Reer Diini land Garbaharey maybe the most anti Madoobe sub clan and JL is not homogeneous like PL so it is much easier to play dirty clan politics.

 

[Ferrari]

Humans need each other. Whether we like or not Federal States and Xamar will need to actively work together for more development. UK has trade with other European countries.

If you're opting for a completely self sufficient PL economy then I understand


He is "One Bedroom Villa Somalia" like the other niggas before him. But he assigned Bogmadow and Bogmadow went to Reer Diini land Garbaharey maybe the most anti Madoobe sub clan and JL is not homogeneous like PL so it is much easier to play dirty clan politics.

Lol wrong it is because he is afraid of puntland. Gaas shit talks the government and they still bend over for him but to madoobe, even if he talks nicely they still disrespect that dark nigga.

The point is there is no rule of law that's being applied to everyone. Farmaajo forges his own polices as he goes. He should be impeached.

 

[embarassing]

Ask yourself a question, can he assign a general to puntland without telling gaas? He can't even if he did.

If he is the president of the country why can't he?

You seem to be a logical person but I still don't understand where you're coming from on this. What do you want, for the situation to improve? We all know it's not great, is the solution to just oppose every govt? You're saying impeach him, a new guy comes and there will be others saying the same thing regardless. What do you believe is the solution?