Changing capital city ( u might think now not this f* topic again)

[Vanguard]

Taleex

No thank you

 

[merka]

How? It was Ali bin Said who said it was the white pearl, not the Italians themselves.

You haven't even refuted my points, you sir suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

Read the first sentence. It became known as the White Pearl because of it's history as a beach resort for Italians and Europeans.

I didn't know this disease causes reading incomprehension.

Lol youre joking right? Mogadishu predates colonialism, and because they came and built a few things that have been mostly destroyed its a colonial city? You're reaching.

The city has always been Somali and has recently been rebuilt by Somalis.

Every Southern Somali state pre-colonialism didn't choose Mogadishu as their capital. Xamarweyne back then was not much different than other coastal towns in the area. It was the Italians who made it the city that it is today.

The reason pre-colonial Somalis didn't choose to make Mogadishu their capital is because it is a poor choice for a capital city.

 

[embarassing]

Read the first sentence. It became known as the White Pearl because of it's history as a beach resort for Italians and Europeans.

I didn't know this disease causes reading incomprehension.

Every Southern Somali state pre-colonialism didn't choose Mogadishu as their capital. Xamarweyne back then was not much different then other coastal towns in the area. It was the Italians who made it the city that it is today.

The reason pre-colonial Somalis didn't choose to make Mogadishu their capital is because it is a poor choice for a capital city.

Im not talking about who chose it as their capital and whether it should be. Mogadishu was always larger than the other southern coastal cities any reading of their histories will prove that.

It was the prize colonial possession of the Italians precisely because it was a great and beautiful city. Thats why they were encouraging their people to move there. Ibn Batuta wrote in the 13th century Mogadishu was a city larger than Damascus. No doubt the Italians added to the city, most of what they added has been recently destroyed and the city has been rebuilt by Somali people once again.

Suggesting the italians built Mogadishu is as funny as those who like to suggest Siad Barre did, they both added to it but the cities history is ancient.
You're reaching.

 

[Dhiig Sookeeye]

In my opinion Gaalkacyo is the only reasonable position for a new capital.

Already a "prepared" city in terms of "Development" and infrastructure,

Well in comparison to some of the hell-hole suggestions on this thread.

 

[merka]

Im not talking about who chose it as their capital and whether it should be. Mogadishu was always larger than the other southern coastal cities any reading of their histories will prove that.

It was the prize colonial possession of the Italians precisely because it was a great and beautiful city. Thats why they were encouraging their people to move there. Ibn Batuta wrote in the 13th century Mogadishu was a city larger than Damascus. No doubt the Italians added to the city, most of what they added has been recently destroyed and the city has been rebuilt by Somali people once again.

Suggesting the italians built Mogadishu is as funny as those who like to suggest Siad Barre did, they both added to it but the cities history is ancient.
You're reaching.

Have you seen pre-colonial pictures of Mogadishu? There wasn't much there.

Mogadishu went from this...

to this under the Italians.

They made Mogadishu the city that it is today. This is not even debatable.

 

[embarassing]

Have you seen pre-colonial pictures of Mogadishu? There wasn't much there.

Mogadishu went from this...

to this under the Italians.

They made Mogadishu the city that it is today. This is not even debatable.

There aren't many pre-colonial images of Mogadishu but its well known what was there and how long it has been there. Also, how can you say there wasn't much there when historical accounts of it call it a large city, Ibn Batuta calling it larger than Damascus? The only thing left from them in modern day Xamar from that image is that stone pillar. The masjid was always there and the church and roads were destroyed. The roads have been rebuilt by Somalis.

Somalis made Mogadishu the city it is today, it was complete rubble just a few years ago.

 

[merka]

There aren't many pre-colonial images of Mogadishu but its well known what was there and how long it has been there. Also, how can you say there wasn't much there when historical accounts of it call it a large city, Ibn Batuta calling it larger than Damascus? The only thing left from them in modern day Xamar from that image is that stone pillar. The masjid was always there and the church and roads were destroyed. The roads have been rebuilt by Somalis.

Somalis made Mogadishu the city it is today, it was complete rubble just a few years ago.

Travel writers like Ibn Batuta tend to exaggerate their visits in their books. Damascus used to be the capital of the Muslim world. It was obviously much larger than Mogadishu ever was.

Mogadishu back then was mostly Somalis and some Arabs. I doubt the population of the city reached 50k.

There's a big difference between rebuilding a destroyed city and turning a trading post into modern city.

 

[embarassing]

Travel writers like Ibn Batuta tend to exaggerate their visits in their books. Damascus used to be the capital of the Muslim world. It was obviously much larger than Mogadishu ever was.

Mogadishu back then was mostly Somalis and some Arabs. I doubt the population of the city reached 50k.

There's a big difference between rebuilding a destroyed city and turning a trading post into modern city.

Loool, yes Ibn Batuta lied and you're telling the truth. All the historical accounts of the city exaggerated and it was merely a trading post built by Italians, cool story. *Whatever helps you sleep better at night*

Goodnight.

 

[merka]

Loool, yes Ibn Batuta lied and you're telling the truth. All the historical accounts of the city exaggerated and it was merely a trading post built by Italians, cool story. *Whatever helps you sleep better at night*

Goodnight.

I just showed you a picture of Mogadishu before the Italians came and you're saying that I should believe that it was bigger than Damascus, the world's oldest continuously inhabited city because some Arab traveler said so.



P.S. large sections of his book was copied from previous travel books.

 

[embarassing]

I just showed you a picture of Mogadishu before the Italians came and you're saying that I should believe that it was bigger than Damascus, the world's oldest continuously inhabited city because some Arab traveler said so.



P.S. large sections of his book was copied from previous travel books.

You showed me a sketch of a couple buildings its not even a photo lol, it doesn't even cover part of the old city and you think it helps your argument? Ill take the historical accounts. Ibn Batuta actually travelled to both those cities at that time, ill take his first hand accounts over your claims. Even if it wasn't larger than Damascus like he said, his saying that after visiting both the cities attests to the cities greatness.

 

[Shades]

Mogadishu was always great before the Italians, it was the only major somali settlement that was known worldwide during the precolonial era.

 

[Ferrari]

It's easier moving habargidir than it's moving the capital.

 

[Shades]

It's easier moving habargidir than it's moving the capital.

what has the nobel and upright clan ever done wrong? People hate on HG because it's sensational.

 

[merka]

You showed me a sketch of a couple buildings its not even a photo lol, it doesn't even cover part of the old city and you think it helps your argument? Ill take the historical accounts. Ibn Batuta actually travelled to both those cities at that time, ill take his first hand accounts over your claims. Even if it wasn't larger than Damascus like he said, his saying that after visiting both the cities attests to the cities greatness.

lol where are these great old buildings of Mogadishu then? The only well known landmarks from back then was the Fakhrudin Mosque and the Lighthouse.

Damascus has hundreds of palaces that are a thousand years old that are still standing. The comparisons are not even close.

If you ever read medieval arabic literature they always use exaggerated comparisons in their writings. It is not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Ferrari]

what has the nobel and upright clan ever done wrong? People hate on HG because it's sensational.

Let's be honest, they are the problem. These niggas are late, they are trying to expand their territories today where most clans did theirs in the 19th century. You won't hear abgaal taking over lands, or bombing/assassinating people. HG has to be stopped if somalia should prospoer.

 

[embarassing]

Mogadishu was always great before the Italians, it was the only major somali settlement that was known worldwide during the precolonial era.

History attests to it and history doesn't change.

 

[Mohsin]

Capital does not need history and building , it needs to be save people for the Administration foreign Embassy, diplomats , international organisations ,

the more small is the capital the more save for Administration

 

[Mohsin]

Only a brain dead poisoned coward would even think about changing the capital.

There is no logic to changing the capital. Its where all the institutions are, it is the home (or should be) of all Somali clans. It is the pearl of the Indian Ocean. Don't you think if the capital was changed, Al Shabaab would just attack that newly established capital?

Seriously I don't get why people don't understand the very simple concept of treating the cause and not the symptom.

SXB is not fighting or been coward we are avoiding any instability and failed Government in the capital of the country, alshabaab are mostly from south and central Somalia

 

[mrdeeni]

Let's be honest, they are the problem. These niggas are late, they are trying to expand their territories today where most clans did theirs in the 19th century. You won't hear abgaal taking over lands, or bombing/assassinating people. HG has to be stopped if somalia should prospoer.

To be honest I heard a lot of talk about HG even back home from people who are NEVER tribelist. I wonder if there is legit truth in these claims.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

lol where are these great old buildings of Mogadishu then? The only well known landmarks from back then was the Fakhrudin Mosque and the Lighthouse.

Damascus has hundreds of palaces that are a thousand years old that are still standing. The comparisons are not even close.

If you ever read medieval arabic literature they always use exaggerated comparisons in their writings. It is not meant to be taken literally.

I know your lack of logic due to "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome means your brain cannot even comprehend, how Mogadishu, city of all Somalis, has always been a great bustling trading city, you vehemently deny this and so make up the most silliest excuses like "Cuz Arabs said it, so it's not true".

Ok then sxb, let me give you an account from the explorer João de Sá, who accompanied Vasco da Gama on the voyage from India back to Portugal. He wrote that Magadoxo (Mogadishu) was controlled by Moors. A big town surrounded by four towers, it had houses several storeys high and large palaces in its center.