Cirro Says He Wants Recognition Based On 'Valid Legal Arguments'

[IKHALIIL]

 

[DR OSMAN]

What valid legal argument is ciro talking about? those British somaliland borders are null and void, you can't reverse null and void borders without effecting recognised UN and AU borders in the globe. What legal tradition is using?

We had a few countries recognize SL and then we ceded that to Somalia and want Somalia borders violated enshrined in the AU and UN for 30 years for 4 days?

What legal logic or philosophy is ciiro referring too? Clan interest don't change global and continental laws, by repeating your failed leader politics doesn't make it change only you are removed from the globe eventually either in isolation or thru eventual oromo migrations displacing you. Your not hurting Somalia by secession, social.media crap don't hurt nations, your just fooling your people to prepare for isolation and eventually.extinction and u think Somalian leaders see that as some threat or leverage for negiotation?

Infact your really pushing your luck Isaaq that upper house u were given may even be removed and u only given deputy ministers in the executives and some mps, u keep pushing for more learn from Palestine, now even Gaza is going to Israel.

 

[Pastoralist]

The only thing he can do is use geopolitical leverage of Chinese sentiments towards SSC to split from Somalia or hope from trump to take notice of a way to tick ilhan Omar off. SL has no real legal basis towards becoming independent, mogadishu has final say in that.

 

[JamalFarah]

I don't think he's neccesarily talking about the British Somaliland border and more so that the international community won't recognize a counry that doesn't control all their territory from the get-go, meaning rescinding claims on the bulk of SSC territory.

I only think they'll rescind those claims once Trump and other countries give guarentees that indepedence will happen after rescinding those claims.

 

[The truth seeker]

Somali land is a british creation that does not exist it’s time for these Somali traitors to head to the gulag

If I were ruler of Somalia these cowardly fools would be sweeping my floors like a kenyan maid

 

[Zak12]

I don't think he's neccesarily talking about the British Somaliland border and more so that the international community won't recognize a counry that doesn't control all their territory from the get-go, meaning rescinding claims on the bulk of SSC territory.

I only think they'll rescind those claims once Trump and other countries give guarentees that indepedence will happen after rescinding those claims.

Is there any actual proof Trump will do such a thing? Its only random media (likely paid SL lobbyists) saying it

 

[Hotchick12]

there’s likely chance cirro will stop claiming that colonial british border

 

[JamalFarah]

Is there any actual proof Trump will do such a thing? Its only random media (likely paid SL lobbyists) saying it

The source is an article from Semafor. To be fair that is the source everyone seems to be using. The NEO-CON right seems to have house quite a sizeable amount of pro-secessionist people in its Africa-policy team.

To be clear it still is far from being confirmed or something thats going to be a reality with any amount of certainty.

 

[Zak12]

The source is an article from Semafor. To be fair that is the source everyone seems to be using. The NEO-CON right seems to have house quite a sizeable amount of pro-secessionist people in its Africa-policy team.

To be clear it still is far from being confirmed or something thats going to be a reality with any amount of certainty.

Reminds me of this thread before.

🚨 Breaking news Trump to recognize SL 🚨

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-somaliland-new-country-gavin-williamson-b2648376.html

www.somalispot.com

 

[Garaad Awal]

Somali land is a british creation that does not exist it’s time for these Somali traitors to head to the gulag

Somalia is also a colonial creation. I swear some of you don’t know how to make coherent arguments.

If I were ruler of Somalia these cowardly fools would be sweeping my floors like a kenyan maid

68 iq strikes again

 

[The truth seeker]

Somalia is also a colonial creation. I swear some of you don’t know how to make coherent arguments.

68 iq strikes again

How very funny I hope you enjoy dancing for your new masters

I give it five years before an Israeli embassy is established in so called “ Somali land “

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

What valid legal argument is ciro talking about? those British somaliland borders are null and void, you can't reverse null and void borders without effecting recognised UN and AU borders in the globe. What legal tradition is using?

We had a few countries recognize SL and then we ceded that to Somalia and want Somalia borders violated enshrined in the AU and UN for 30 years for 4 days?

What legal logic or philosophy is ciiro referring too? Clan interest don't change global and continental laws, by repeating your failed leader politics doesn't make it change only you are removed from the globe eventually either in isolation or thru eventual oromo migrations displacing you. Your not hurting Somalia by secession, social.media crap don't hurt nations, your just fooling your people to prepare for isolation and eventually.extinction and u think Somalian leaders see that as some threat or leverage for negiotation?

Infact your really pushing your luck Isaaq that upper house u were given may even be removed and u only given deputy ministers in the executives and some mps, u keep pushing for more learn from Palestine, now even Gaza is going to Israel.

Somaliland has been an independent state since 1960, owing to an illegal act of union that does not meet the requirements of international law and a fraudulent 1961 referendum. With those two things in mind, the period of 1960 - 2024 can be considered as contrary to international law.

 

[Avalanche]

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Somaliland has been an independent state since 1960, owing to an illegal act of union that does not meet the requirements of international law and a fraudulent 1961 referendum. With those two things in mind, the period of 1960 - 2024 can be considered as contrary to international law.

You were only a country for 1 day and you represented Somalia. Not 1991 Somaliland. So you argument is absurd.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You were only a country for 1 day and you represented Somalia. Not 1991 Somaliland. So you argument is absurd.

How can a country represent another country? Stupid

 

[Avalanche]

How can a country represent another country? Stupid

Somaliland has NEVER been a UN country. 1960 June, You were weaving the blue flag. You represented Somalia before South got its independence and united with the north

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Somaliland has NEVER been a UN country. 1960 June, You were weaving the blue flag. You represented Somalia before South got its independence and united with the north

How can an independent state represent another country? Somaliland didn't join the UN because there was an intention to join with Somalia but that doens't change the fact Somaliland was a competely inpendenent country like any other.

 

[Avalanche]

How can an independent state represent another country? Somaliland didn't join the UN because there was an intention to join with Somalia but that doens't change the fact Somaliland was a competely inpendenent country like any other.

That says it all. If you didn't join the UN with the intention of then uniting with the South then it's not a real country. You represent the first part that became independent from the colonial power in Somalia.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

That says it all. If you didn't join the UN with the intention of then uniting with the South then it's not a real country. You represent the first part that became independent from the colonial power in Somalia.

A country becomes independent when there's a transfer of sovereignty. In the case of Somaliland it was from UK to Somaliland. In the case of Somalia Italiana it was from Italy. Countries do not become independent on joining the UN, rather Independent countries CAN join the UN, they don't always.

Take Switzerland for example only joined in 2002. So your argument is debunked, please bring another. Unless you wanna argue Switzerland was part of Somalia too.

 

[Zak12]

owing to an illegal act of union

According to who?

 

[Avalanche]

A country becomes independent when there's a transfer of sovereignty. In the case of Somaliland it was from UK to Somaliland. In the case of Somalia Italiana it was from Italy. Countries do not become independent on joining the UN, rather its' the other way around. Independent countries CAN join the UN, they don't always.

Take Switzerland for example only joined in 2002. So your argument is debunked, please bring another. Unless you wanna argue Switzerland was part of Somalia too.

State of Somaliland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

‘Somaliland’ literally represented Somalia before it was unified. Your argument is silly. It was the Awale flag that was raised.