Cirro Says He Wants Recognition Based On 'Valid Legal Arguments'

[Itsnotthateasy]

State of Somaliland - Wikipedia

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‘Somaliland’ literally represented Somalia before it was unified. Your argument is silly. It was the Awale flag that was raised.

How can you represent something before it exists?

 

[Avalanche]

How can you represent something before it exists?

In case you can't read, it was already planned that the South and the North would be united before the North gained its independence. Everything was already planned.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

In case you can't read, it was already planned that the South and the North would be united before the North gained its independence. Everything was already planned.

It was planned yeah no one is disputing that but legally it wasn't done properly so it's void. Somaila was never a legal entity.

 

[Avalanche]

It was planned yeah no one is disputing that but legally it wasn't done properly so it's void. Somaila was never a legal entity.

Hahaha explain how it was not done legally. A common land was in everyone's desire in that time. It wasn't until the first constitution which then the people of the north were not considered to be represented in that people took notice of the injustice.

 

[Garaad Awal]

How very funny I hope you enjoy dancing for your new masters

Again wyf are you talking about? You chastised SL for being based on colonial borders. I simply pointed out that you support colonial borders of Somalia.

I give it five years before an Israeli embassy is established in so called “ Somali land “

While you dream about this fictional embassy why don’t you spend more pressuring and critiquing your govt for allowing foreign troops especially Ethiopian & Kenyan troops to stay indefinitely.

Let’s not pretend that the CIA and USAF Special Forces aren’t in Mogadishu and operating in it. The same US that supports the Israeli govt with “iron clad support”.

Let’s also forget that the govt currently in Xamar was created in Nairobi by the CIA & US State Department.

Kids like you need to start reading more instead of listening to your mirqaan father who talks FKD and collects disability

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Hahaha explain how it was not done legally. A common land was in everyone's desire in that time. It wasn't until the first constitution which then the people of the north were not considered to be represented in that people took notice of the injustice.

There's no act of union that is signed by both Somaliland and Italian Somaliland that is the same. It dont' exist. They both created different documents, neither group signed a final document and ratified in parliament, so it doesn't meet international law standards. It was more like a gentlemens agreement which was later rejected by Somaliland.

Somalia the idea and Somalia the legal reality is two different things.

 

[Avalanche]

There's no act of union that is signed by both Somaliland and Italian Somaliland that is the same. It dont' exist. They both created different documents, neither group signed a final document and ratified in parliament, so it doesn't meet international law standards. It was more like a gentlemens agreement which was later rejected by Somaliland.

Somalia the idea and Somalia the legal reality is two different things.

You are living in a dream world if you honestly believe that most people in the North at that time were not in favour of a unity with the South. If it was even a referendum the majority would be in favour of it. Stop projecting your current anger onto the past.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You are living in a dream world if you honestly believe that most people in the North at that time were not in favour of a unity with the South. If it was even a referendum the majority would be in favour of it. Stop projecting your current anger onto the past.

The legal argument exists that it was never valid. Doesn't matter what people feel/felt at the time.

 

[Avalanche]

The legal argument exists that it was never valid. Doesn't matter what people feel/felt at the time.

Don’t let your current resentment affect your perception of the past.

 

[Zak12]

You are living in a dream world if you honestly believe that most people in the North at that time were not in favour of a unity with the South. If it was even a referendum the majority would be in favour of it. Stop projecting your current anger onto the past.

He is talking BS. You can look up the union yourself. It was ratified by the Somali parliament in 1961 thus making it permanent

 

[Avalanche]

He is talking BS. You can look up the union yourself. It was ratified by the Somali parliament in 1961 thus making it permanent

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Bro, it’s clear that they are attempting to rewrite history because they refuse to accept that it actually happened.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

He is talking BS. You can look up the union yourself. It was ratified by the Somali parliament in 1961 thus making it permanent

Lol, how can a deal between two countries be ratified by one country a year later?
Go look in the UN registry of international agreements you cannot find any act of Union between Somaliland and Italian Somaliland. You can find all of Somalilands international agreements with UK though.

 

[Zak12]

Lol, how can a deal between two countries be ratified by one country a year later?

Your first mistake. Only the State of Somaliland was a country.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Your first mistake. Only the State of Somaliland was a country.

Okay I'm not doing that argument again, read the attachments.

 

[Zak12]

Okay I'm not doing that argument again, read the attachments.

How about you read mine? Somaliland dissolved in 1960 to merge with the trust territory of Somaliland ergo it formed Somalia, and that union was made permanent with the ratification.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

How about you read mine? Somaliland dissolved in 1960 to merge with the trust territory of Somaliland ergo it formed Somalia, and that union was made permanent with the ratification.

Okay where is the legal agreement recorded, where was it ratified in Somaliland parliament? Don't exist.

 

[Zak12]

was it ratified in Somaliland parliament?

Irrelevant.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Irrelevant.

Not under international law. In that case Ethiopia could just ratify in their parliament that Somalia has joined with them.

 

[Zak12]

Not under international law. In that case Ethiopia could just ratify in their parliament that Somalia has joined with them.

1. Their parliament has no jursidiction in Somalia. Mogadishu's does in all of Somalia.

2. Somalia would need to have signed a union in the first place just like Somaliland's representatives did

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

1. Their parliament has no jursidiction in Somalia. Mogadishu's does in all of Somalia.

2. Somalia would need to have signed a union in the first place just like Somaliland's representatives did

No they formed a new state called East Africa with Addis Ababa as the capital. The agreement was ratified in Addis Ababa, case closed.