Civil war enters second year in Ethiopia

[Abba Sadacha]

Abye refused to negotiate with oromos but was willing to be dictated to and be managed by Amharas?
Doesnt make sense.
Oromo opposition demands were lesser as compared to Amhara.
Amhara demanded Abye to invade Tigray.While Oromo opposition didnt and infact Oromo Opposition compromised alot for the sake of unity and even allowed Abye to run as PM.

It does. Because, he knows, as long as he screams ''one ethiopia,'' that the amhara elites and their followers, will blindly back him.
Oromo's are not like that. Oromo's want OLF or a coalition led by OLF and OFC to rule Oromia, which would make abiy a regular citizen and not the emperor that he wants to be, so bad.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

It does. Because, he knows, as long as he screams ''one ethiopia,'' that the amhara elites and their followers, will blindly back him.
Oromo's are not like that. Oromo's want OLF or a coalition led by OLF and OFC to rule Oromia, which would make abiy a regular citizen and not the emperor that he wants to be, so bad.

Abye wants Oromos to call him an emperor yet is willing to accept amhara demean him and call him Galla.

What is one Ethiopia anyway when you are trying to ethnic cleanse an entire ethnic group for the sake of amhara?
Amhara plan was once Tigrayans are exterminated they would topple Abye and rule indefinitely.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Abye wants Oromos to call him an emperor yet is willing tonaccept amhara demean him and call him Galla.

Whatbis one Ethiopia anyway when you are trying to ethnic cleanse an entire ethnic group for the sake of amhara?
Amhara plan was once Tigrayans are exterminated they would topple Abye and rule indefinitely.

He wants all Ethiopians to call him Emperor. Oromo's happen to, be opposed to that, because it doesn't serve Oromo interests, or even, Ethiopian interests to be honest.
Amhara are his allies, the only ones against him are the extremists who do not trust anything non-Amhara. The same ones, who think the amhara pp party is too soft on tigrayans, OLF, and gumuz ''rebels.''

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

He wants all Ethiopians to call him Emperor. Oromo's happen to, be opposed to that, because it doesn't serve Oromo interests, or even, Ethiopian interests to be honest.
Amhara are his allies, the only ones against him are the extremists who do not trust anything non-Amhara. The same ones, who think the amhara pp party is too soft on tigrayans, OLF, and gumuz ''rebels.''

So far I havent seen one amhara call him Emperor have you?
Amhara closest guy the called the next haile Selaise was mustafa.
Abye has done things for Amhara but each time they kept on blaming him.Its int ironic that after Abye exhausted all his resources and even risked his repuation and future by venturing into war with Tigray.They Amharas keep blaming him for having failed to exterminate Tigrayans.
All I have seen is Amhara blaming Abye and claimming him incompetent at every angle after he favoured amhara against oromos.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

So far I havent seen one amhara call him Emperor have you?
Amhara closest guy the called the next haile Selaise was mustafa.
Abye has done things for Amhara but each time they kept on blaming him.Its int ironic that after Abye exhausted all his resources and even risked his repuation and future by venturing into war with Tigray.They Amharas keep blaming him for having failed to exterminate Tigrayans.
All I have seen is Amhara blaming Abye and claimming him incompetent at every angle after he favoured amhara against oromos.

They don't have to-they call him their leader and their PM. They support him, especially in his war in Tigray.
They blame him, because they do not want to blame themselves. Abiy has done everything he could, but the fact is, you cannot defeat an entire nation. tigrayans are united in this war, so, even if they pay a huge price, they will win in the long term, but this does not mean they will rule again, it just means that, they will defend tigray from extinction.

 

[reer]

They don't have to-they call him their leader and their PM. They support him, especially in his war in Tigray.
They blame him, because they do not want to blame themselves. Abiy has done everything he could, but the fact is, you cannot defeat an entire nation. tigrayans are united in this war, so, even if they pay a huge price, they will win in the long term, but this does not mean they will rule again, it just means that, they will defend tigray from extinction.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

@Abba Sadacha

 

[digaagjecel]

 

[Abba Sadacha]

@Abba Sadacha

good. what do you think? do you think mustafa will send liyyu to fight olf and tda if they get close to addis? will onlf join? what do you think somalis in galbeed should do?

 

[Gugu]

good. what do you think? do you think mustafa will send liyyu to fight olf and tda if they get close to addis? will onlf join? what do you think somalis in galbeed should do?

ONLF needs to talk about stopping this civil war while telling Somalis to not participate. Reason is they have 0 political power but could potentially speak for the region if TDF/OLA wins.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

good. what do you think? do you think mustafa will send liyyu to fight olf and tda if they get close to addis? will onlf join? what do you think somalis in galbeed should do?

What did I tell you ages ago that TDF will form an alliance with OLA.
Mustafa is like the Oromo Kilil President.
He today wrote a hate speech on his FB page.
He wants to turn the somali region into a blood bath.He says certain folks that support TDF are to be wiped out from Somali kilil.

Shemeles Abdu was defending oromos against amhara and Mustafa was being called the somali haile selasie.Mustafa openly was advocating for the ethnic cleansing of Tigrayans while I dont think Shemeles did also Mustafa used state resources he donated money and blood to ENDF.



Anyway its going to be a blood bath all the way to Addis if Abye refuses to step down.I think Afaworki would fool him and tell him to continue fighting and this will be the first time in Ethiopian civil war that Addis Ababa becomes a conflict zone.

 

[Kanan]

It depends more on the individuals in power, not their ethnicity. TPLF massacred Somali's for years, to the point they made documentaries and movements for a free ogaden/somali region, they even had blockades there. As bad as Abiy is, is that happening under his reign? No. Let's be objective and impartial here, even when discussing enemies like abiy, tplf, etc.

I honestly prefer Abiye over TPLF Somalis are emotional short sighted people Menawi stabbed Somalis on the back when he refused their request to activate article 39 in 1994 for self determination massacring Somalis ever since.



TPLF sponsored the federal system knowing it will keep Somalis on a deadlock for decades to come. They also invaded Somalia in 2006-2009 committed atrocities in Mogadishu and destroyed the ICU a largely moderate Islamic grass root movement that defeated tribal warlords and brought peace to south Somalia at large. They effectively replace ICU with Al Shabaab who adopted guerilla warfare and absorbed ICU leftovers to what we see today.




Somalis cheering for Ethiopia to collapse and this war to continue for ever is a rational approach. But let's not act like TPLF are better than Abiye when it comes to Somali people.

 

[digaagjecel]

I honestly prefer Abiye over TPLF Somalis are emotional short sighted people Menawi stabbed Somalis on the back when he refused their request to activate article 39 in 1994 for self determination massacring Somalis ever since.



TPLF sponsored the federal system knowing it will keep Somalis on a deadlock for decades to come. They also invaded Somalia in 2006-2009 committed atrocities in Mogadishu and destroyed the ICU a largely moderate Islamic grass root movement that defeated tribal warlords and brought peace to south Somalia at large. They effectively replace ICU with Al Shabaab who adopted guerilla warfare and absorbed ICU leftovers to what we see today.




Somalis cheering for Ethiopia to collapse and this war to continue for ever is a rational approach. But let's not act like TPLF are better than Abiye when it comes to Somali people.

Choosing the lesser evil is always the best idea in any situation. The winner of this war will be completely exhausted and weak. TPLF cannot make the same mistake again, backstabbing one of the regions will cause a domino effect and put all the other regions against them.

 

[World]

I honestly prefer Abiye over TPLF Somalis are emotional short sighted people Menawi stabbed Somalis on the back when he refused their request to activate article 39 in 1994 for self determination massacring Somalis ever since.



TPLF sponsored the federal system knowing it will keep Somalis on a deadlock for decades to come. They also invaded Somalia in 2006-2009 committed atrocities in Mogadishu and destroyed the ICU a largely moderate Islamic grass root movement that defeated tribal warlords and brought peace to south Somalia at large. They effectively replace ICU with Al Shabaab who adopted guerilla warfare and absorbed ICU leftovers to what we see today.




Somalis cheering for Ethiopia to collapse and this war to continue for ever is a rational approach. But let's not act like TPLF are better than Abiye when it comes to Somali people.

If Abiy wins the civil war then Ethiopia probably won’t collapse, if the war goes on forever then Ethiopia will disintegrate, if tplf defeat abiy again then Ethiopia may collapse as well since nobody wants them in control again. Amharas, Oromos will never accept tplf rule and neither will tigray accept abiy’s rule.

 

[Kanan]

If Abiy wins the civil war then Ethiopia probably won’t collapse, if the war goes on forever then Ethiopia will disintegrate, if tplf defeat abiy again then Ethiopia may collapse as well since nobody wants them in control again. Amharas, Oromos will never accept tplf rule and neither will tigray accept abiy’s rule.

TPLF just marched through Amhara & Oromo regions, defeated ENDF and all it's ethnic supporters. Do you honestly believe in this scenario rag tag Amhara/Oromo rebel groups would dare to challenge TPLF?


In 1991 TPLF was the most powerful armed movement they said we'll give you all a referendum like Eritrea and went back on it's words. Not any of other ethnic manage to do anything including Oromo & Amhara. They all been subjugated and absorbed into TPLF collation government.

 

[Kanan]

Choosing the lesser evil is always the best idea in any situation. The winner of this war will be completely exhausted and weak. TPLF cannot make the same mistake again, backstabbing one of the regions will cause a domino effect and put all the other regions against them.

I see Abiye as the lessee evil. TPLF backstabbed Oromo, Somalis and Sidama in mid 90s when they all pressed to exercise their right by the constitution to activate article 39 and organize a referendum.

 

[AMusee]

TPLF just marched through Amhara & Oromo regions, defeated ENDF and all it's ethnic supporters. Do you honestly believe in this scenario rag tag Amhara/Oromo rebel groups would dare to challenge TPLF?


In 1991 TPLF was the most powerful armed movement they said we'll give you all a referendum like Eritrea and went back on it's words. Not any of other ethnic manage to do anything including Oromo & Amhara. They all been subjugated and absorbed into TPLF collation government.

Because they were and still are backed by the west. They carry out their interests.

A satellite state, its not that their powerful theyre just a front for western interests. Which has never been in our favour. Any Somalis supporting them after all they have done are short sighted and delusional.

The attacks against Ethiopia and Eritrea is because of their new policy of not subjugating Somalia. The west feels like they are losing control.

Now they are losing it over Sudan. Glad to see it.

 

[World]

TPLF just marched through Amhara & Oromo regions, defeated ENDF and all it's ethnic supporters. Do you honestly believe in this scenario rag tag Amhara/Oromo rebel groups would dare to challenge TPLF?


In 1991 TPLF was the most powerful armed movement they said we'll give you all a referendum like Eritrea and went back on it's words. Not any of other ethnic manage to do anything including Oromo & Amhara. They all been subjugated and absorbed into TPLF collation government.

Tplf only was able to take power in 1991 because everyone supported them, that is not the case today. Tplf did not march through Oromo regions and defeat ENDF, who told you that? They havent even step foot inside the Oromo region. They’ve been defeated in Afar region and are making advances in the Amhara region yes, but they haven’t been able to gain access to the Sudan corridor(their goal), nor have they stopped the blockade on the Tigray region. You are also not considering the fact that they will be spread thin this time around, if everyone from Amhara, Oromo, Afar, etc region is against them then they won’t have the resources to stop them all.

 

[reer]

In 1991 TPLF was the most powerful armed movement they said we'll give you all a referendum like Eritrea and went back on it's words. Not any of other ethnic manage to do anything including Oromo & Amhara. They all been subjugated and absorbed into TPLF collation government.

shidh man. snake weeye that bakhti nigga meles. we were slowly learning how to destabilize our enemies. meles went from pro somali to invading gedo in 1996.

Meles knew Somalia very well, as he lived in Mogadishu when he was a liberation leader in the 1980s. Meles and Eritrean leader Isayas Afewerki “lived together in a villa behind Tawfiq Hotel, north Mogadishu, and were handled by the National Security Service, provided with travel documents and Somali passports, trained and given a Tigrayan radio frequency”, a former senior Somali government official told IRIN.
https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/fr/node/185675

 

[Enlightenednomad]