Conflict Profile: Lower Shabelle (Somalia's most diverse region)

[DrippinglyWet]

I can't take anybody who says that Afgooye is Hawiye seriously.

If you were capable of reading, I said that 6/7 of the districts are Digil majority, and biyomaal iyo 12 koofi are the majority in merka.

Afgooye main population consists of the Galadi , Wacdaan, Wadalaan, Garre, Silcis, and Murusade clans majority of those mentioned are hawiye of course there is a significant non hawiye presence but that does not detrack from saying that Hawiye is the majority in that district.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Afgooye main population consists of the Galadi , Wacdaan, Wadalaan, Garre, Silcis, and Murusade clans 4/6 of those are hawiye of course there is a significant non hawiye presence but that does not detrack from saying that Hawiye is the majority in that district.

Stop the FKD when you have no idea what you're talking about. From the time you said that Raxanweyn only started claiming Lower Shabelle when they formed the South West state, I didn't know whether to cry or laugh. Those Hawiye minorities are natives, but they have been living under Geledi/Raxanweyn rule ever since the Ajuuran collapsed over 300 years ago. And it was the Geledi/Raxanweyn who were the ones that rebelled against the Ajuuran even before that.

 

[Odeg]

This assumptions that Im against Somalis living where they want is not true. I have no issues with HG civilians or business people. The problem is clan militias that have no place in LS.

 

[Boqor Geeljire252]

We are talking about 90s clan grab,

There were many HG in LS before the 90s, Abdullahi Isse AUN was born in 1922 in LS, almost 70 years before the 90s.

Stick to what you know and don't make sweeping generalizations about other clans.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Stop the FKD when you have no idea what you're talking about. From the time you said that Raxanweyn only started claiming Lower Shabelle when they formed the South West state, I didn't know whether to cry or laugh. Those Hawiye minorities are natives, but they have been living under Geledi/Raxanweyn rule ever since the Ajuuran collapsed over 300 years ago. And it was the Geledi/Raxanweyn who were the ones that rebelled against the Ajuuran even before that.

You didn't disprove what I said. Afgooye is a majority hawiye.
I'm not saying their claiming because they have already been there but are actively seeking political supremacy in the region.
Silcis Sultanate also ruled afgooye and it surrounding even before the collapse of the ajuuran Sultanate "Cassanelli points out that in Geledi oral history accounts, the Silcis are often viewed as "that section of the Ajuran who governed the Afgoy district".

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

You didn't disprove what I said.
I'm not saying their claiming because they have already been there but are actively seeking political supremacy in the region.

Do you not know that the capital of the Raxanweyn/Geledi sultanate was in Afgooye before Somalia even existed? Forget about Afgooye which was their stronghold, they ruled Xamar to Kismayo before the colonialists arrived. They've always had political supremacy in the region.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Do you not know that the capital of the Raxanweyn/Geledi sultanate was in Afgooye before Somalia even existed? Forget about Afgooye which was their stronghold, they ruled Xamar to Kismayo before the colonialists arrived. They've always had political supremacy in the region.

"Cassanelli points out that in Geledi oral history accounts, the Silcis are often viewed as "that section of the Ajuran who governed the Afgoy district".[4] He asserts that Geledi accounts "attest to the continuity and similarity of Ajuran and Sil'is rule".
Silcis also ruled Afgooye before and a while after the Ajuuran.
Geledi als rebelled against the Ajuuran with the help of the wacdaan clan.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

"Cassanelli points out that in Geledi oral history accounts, the Silcis are often viewed as "that section of the Ajuran who governed the Afgoy district".[4] He asserts that Geledi accounts "attest to the continuity and similarity of Ajuran and Sil'is rule".
Silcis also ruled Afgooye before and a while after the Ajuuran.
Geledi als rebelled against the Ajuuran with the help of the wacdaan clan.

The Silcis hardly exist anymore, they were the left overs of the Ajuuran who were eventually defeated. The Wacdaan were granted land in Afgooye for their secondary role in helping ousting the Silcis from Afgooye. From what I read, they had a clan conflict with Abgaal and were recent arrivals.

Until the colonalists came, the entire region was ruled by the Geledi Sultanate.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

The Silcis hardly exist anymore, they were the left overs of the Ajuuran who were eventually defeated. The Wacdaan were granted land in Afgooye for their secondary role in helping ousting the Silcis from Afgooye. From what I read, they had a clan conflict with Abgaal and were recent arrivals.

Until the colonalists came, the entire region was ruled by the Geledi Sultanate.

The wacdaan and other mudulood and gorgate tribes are native to the region And are recorded to have lived there even before the Ajuuran I'm not denying that there is a big geledi population in afgooye and a very big one in LS as a whole but the afgooye district on its own is Hawiye majority with majority im not meaning "the only ones" look at the major of afgooye and it's district commissioners the majority are hawiye (with some geledi and Garre)

 

[Reign]

I have never met people who hate y'all more wallahi bilaahi

I have yet to come across one who does and even if they do who really cares?

 

[Bahal]

I have yet to come across one who does and even if they do who really cares?

What happened to those innocents was unconscionable

 

[Bohol]

I have yet to come across one who does and even if they do who really cares?

Aren't cad cad your reer abti?

 

[Reign]

Aren't cad cad your reer abti?

I'm not atiya! And even if they were what does that have to do with anything?

 

[Bohol]

I'm not atiya! And even if they were what does that have to do with anything?

It is just a conflict of interest. I was wondering when did that miskiin half cad cad and half HG chick became so hardcore HG. :siilaanyosmile:

 

[Reign]

It is just a conflict of interest. I was wondering when did that miskiin half cad cad and half HG chick became so hardcore HG. :siilaanyosmile:

This topic isn't about cadcads, it was that Canadian reject who brought cadcads into this.

 

[Bohol]

This topic isn't about cadcads, it was that Canadian reject who brought cadcads into this.

I like the new you anyway. Gabadh wa abaheed.

 

[Reign]

I like the new you anyway. Gabadh wa abaheed.

I don't know what you are talking about, I'm not Atiya!