Decline of mogadishu 17th-18th century

[AbdiBashirJR]

Mogadishu decline has to be studied from being ibn battutas most favourite city to slowly becoming more and more dominated by omani influence to and eventually becoming vassal state to oman before being handed to italy and although im HG and i know im not indigneous i will drum the hiraab card all i want dont come for me.

Someone needs to do a piece on why it declined so badly before colonialism, mogadishu zeila and harar were the 3 greatest somali cities where scholars around the world would travel to study Islam. We know why harar and zeila declined because of ethiopia but why mogadishu to this extent.

 

[Aseer]

Yacquubi's ruined Xamar.

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

Yacqubis ruined Xamar. Like the saying goes Good times create Weak men, Weak men create Hard times.

elaborate why and how

 

[Zak12]

Well first off, Mogadishu was never under any influence by Oman or made a vassal state. In fact, the local Geledi sultans used to extract tribute from the Omanis.

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

Well first off, Mogadishu was never under any influence by Oman or made a vassal state. In fact, the local Geledi sultans used to extract tribute from the Omanis.

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Geledi were some G's i read about them freeing slaves in zanzibar. Rahanweyne need to get the respect they deserve. But denying oman influence of benadir ports its dumb. A madow called said barqash owned it, I automatically discredit any source that mentions ajuran because they simply didnt exist or arent what ppl said they are.

regardless oman influence or not this not same mogadishu that has 100s of camels slaughtered a day according to ibn battuta:
"a town of endless size. Its people have many camels, of which they slaughter hundreds every day"

I put that into chatGPT assuming by hundreds he meant 100-200

• Average meat per camel = 300 kg
• Meat consumption per person per day = 0.4 kg

Total Meat Supply​

• Minimum: 100 camels × 300 kg = 30,000 kg
• Maximum: 200 camels × 300 kg = 60,000 kg

Population Estimate​

• Minimum supply (100 camels):
  30,000 kg ÷ 0.4 kg = 75,000 people
• Maximum supply (200 camels):
  60,000 kg ÷ 0.4 kg = 150,000 people

So, the city’s population is likely between 75,000 and 150,000, depending on the exact number of camels eaten per day.

and this estimate is assuming that everyone is eating camel meat as only food so this is minimum population estimate,

and then we have 1940 census with population being 50,000 which includes italians
this is a major fall off.

 

[Zak12]

A madow called said barqash owned it

Source?

any source that mentions ajuran because they simply didnt exist

My sources are about the Geledi who are post Ajuran. And yes they did exist, stop spreading misinfo.

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

Source?

My sources are about the Geledi who are post Ajuran. And yes they did exist, stop spreading misinfo.

source for said barqash is every where you can google who sold banadir its that said nigga.

also your source is a secondary source its probably written in 60s retelling stories they heard. ajuran never has ever had a primary source. There would be foreign countries that traded with it, eye witness who wrote about. geledi hirab are all documented ajuran is a myth/folklore that has been spread.