Cuqdada iska dhaaf. harti oo dhan waay ii siman yihin. Its you Mjist that puntland is having border diffuculties, cuz of short sighted Mj supremacy . The border i recognise is the one in abdullahi yusuf time. All harti are rer puntland . An cusmaan maxmud dhulbahante intaas in le'eg kama xigo PL, waryaa. Mj unity was a by-product of Puntland it wasnt the end goal as some maanyare would like. As i said prior My subtribe cutoff who I honestly feel is family is omar mahmoud, after which all puntites are equal for me. Abdullahi yusuf nin aragti dheer ayuu ahaa, anything less than hartiland is bound to collapse. Hence why PL for the last too terms was arduously working to reinstitute harti relations which incompetent offices prior fumbled. Anybody who badmouths warsangeli and dhulbahnte waa Maangaab Gun ah, regardless how intellectual they think they are.
Listen u dumb c*nt? I love Abdillahi Yusuf, my bah dubays followed him into Hamar and never left and only some returned in 2018, first one on the battle field, last one to leave is our motto. He caused huge 'fractures' though within Osman Mahmoud in 2001 that is disregarded. @Jablibax is Muse Suldan and he was strongly backing Jama Ali Jama and all his security escorts at the time were Bah Dubays, cause waxaa la joggay Nugaal.
U reer mahad niggas came in guns-blazing into Garowe and we told @Jablibax Jama Ali Jama, we will escort you to safety, because the old man is not wanting to see your election due to your 'shady ties with abdiqasim salat' who was 'centralist' mind u and PL was a 'federalist' state. My dad then met at the haj in 2001 Jama Ali Jama directly before he went to PL and told him 'ina adeer iska daa kursiga' abahay was like if there is any osman mahmoud we want in power, you know it's muse suldan and not those other osman mahmoud since we have long 'pact' together politically.
See I am Hassan Yusuf in Osman Mahmoud but our closer relative Maxamud Yusuf who is bah dhulbahante/bah dir which is usually the ruling class always, only share power with themselves. While other in Osman mahmoud are neglected. So we have a good political understanding with Muse Suldan that is historical even. Plus he is 'awoowe' to all us yusuf maxamed children which includes my sub tribe, cade, deni, or 70% of osman mahmoud are all yusuf maxamed lineage.
He prefers us among all of them that tells you a-lot. Niman gob ah oo meel laga neceb yahay aanan jirin in BARI OR NUGAAL. We don't create a bad tarikh for ourselves, we have a motto 'aan nabad kala helno bah dubaysay si ay deriskeenu nabad naga helan'. Meaning if we at peace, we can pass the peace on to our neighbors, but if we are at war, then the war spills over to our neighbors who will start to divide us and use us against each other, similar to what is happening now with Dhulbahante nabad ma aha gudahooda, it's spilling over to Isaaq/MJ who then 'use them against each other'. My awoowe was reer nugaali who was well regarded by the residents of the whole valley as he travelled thru different areas in rainy season, nobody said a bad word about him. My second awoowe was considered a bit 'rough and tough' soldier and did some 'criminal' acts like looting camels and shit from dhulbahante but that is my second awoowe. I don't have perfect family nor do I act like my shit don't stink like some Somalis but untill I see that level of honesty in other Somali clans like bah dubays, I am not prepared to tanasul on anything for them, they can't keep selling me an image of they're clan is perfect because no clan can be perfect, lakin in lays dhaamo shaki iguma jiro SOME LEARN AND GROW, SOME JUST RINSE N REPEAT.
Yes I agree we need Harti unity, my dad says the same but he says it's only till we can reach a stage where Somalia is safe and stable and individual politics like back in 1960s, where tribe wasn't needed as u didn't fear the state may be used against you by some clannist in power. He said if we returned to that stage, I don't ever wanna see Harti again, I want to go out there and make a name for myself rather then living on my awooweyaal because how long can u live on history? not very long, every generation needs to make a name for himself is my father point and it's impossible to do that in TRIBALLY VICIOUS SOMALIA which he squarely blames SSDF for introducing.
People will forget history contributions after 5 generations, that's why u need to ensure each generation adds something while alive or else it could negatively impact on your clans future, like what is happening today to hawiye, this is devastating outcome for they're kids wallahi who must love they're parents deep down but are 'ashamed' of them not thinking about they're future while other parents in somalia think about they're kids future.
Yo @Jablibax I hear Jama is over in London, so relax. Bah Dubays keep they're word. Listen there was no way we going to fight those reer mahad, the solution was safety first. We don't wanna lose our 'leaders' muse suldan, bah dubays will pay the price in body parts. You guys are so lucky osman mahmoud does they're own thing separately as bah bah, we are not united but if we were, you niggas would be all annihilated, you can barely handle just one bah at a time like cade muse vs abdillahi
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