Deni Speaks On SSDF

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Cuqdada iska dhaaf. harti oo dhan waay ii siman yihin. Its you Mjist that puntland is having border diffuculties, cuz of short sighted Mj supremacy . The border i recognise is the one in abdullahi yusuf time. All harti are rer puntland . An cusmaan maxmud dhulbahante intaas in le'eg kama xigo PL, waryaa. Mj unity was a by-product of Puntland it wasnt the end goal as some maanyare would like. As i said prior My subtribe cutoff who I honestly feel is family is omar mahmoud, after which all puntites are equal for me. Abdullahi yusuf nin aragti dheer ayuu ahaa, anything less than hartiland is bound to collapse. Hence why PL for the last too terms was arduously working to reinstitute harti relations which incompetent offices prior fumbled. Anybody who badmouths warsangeli and dhulbahnte waa Maangaab Gun ah, regardless how intellectual they think they are.

Listen u dumb c*nt? I love Abdillahi Yusuf, my bah dubays followed him into Hamar and never left and only some returned in 2018, first one on the battle field, last one to leave is our motto. He caused huge 'fractures' though within Osman Mahmoud in 2001 that is disregarded. @Jablibax is Muse Suldan and he was strongly backing Jama Ali Jama and all his security escorts at the time were Bah Dubays, cause waxaa la joggay Nugaal.

U reer mahad niggas came in guns-blazing into Garowe and we told @Jablibax Jama Ali Jama, we will escort you to safety, because the old man is not wanting to see your election due to your 'shady ties with abdiqasim salat' who was 'centralist' mind u and PL was a 'federalist' state. My dad then met at the haj in 2001 Jama Ali Jama directly before he went to PL and told him 'ina adeer iska daa kursiga' abahay was like if there is any osman mahmoud we want in power, you know it's muse suldan and not those other osman mahmoud since we have long 'pact' together politically.

See I am Hassan Yusuf in Osman Mahmoud but our closer relative Maxamud Yusuf who is bah dhulbahante/bah dir which is usually the ruling class always, only share power with themselves. While other in Osman mahmoud are neglected. So we have a good political understanding with Muse Suldan that is historical even. Plus he is 'awoowe' to all us yusuf maxamed children which includes my sub tribe, cade, deni, or 70% of osman mahmoud are all yusuf maxamed lineage.

He prefers us among all of them that tells you a-lot. Niman gob ah oo meel laga neceb yahay aanan jirin in BARI OR NUGAAL. We don't create a bad tarikh for ourselves, we have a motto 'aan nabad kala helno bah dubaysay si ay deriskeenu nabad naga helan'. Meaning if we at peace, we can pass the peace on to our neighbors, but if we are at war, then the war spills over to our neighbors who will start to divide us and use us against each other, similar to what is happening now with Dhulbahante nabad ma aha gudahooda, it's spilling over to Isaaq/MJ who then 'use them against each other'. My awoowe was reer nugaali who was well regarded by the residents of the whole valley as he travelled thru different areas in rainy season, nobody said a bad word about him. My second awoowe was considered a bit 'rough and tough' soldier and did some 'criminal' acts like looting camels and shit from dhulbahante but that is my second awoowe. I don't have perfect family nor do I act like my shit don't stink like some Somalis but untill I see that level of honesty in other Somali clans like bah dubays, I am not prepared to tanasul on anything for them, they can't keep selling me an image of they're clan is perfect because no clan can be perfect, lakin in lays dhaamo shaki iguma jiro SOME LEARN AND GROW, SOME JUST RINSE N REPEAT.

Yes I agree we need Harti unity, my dad says the same but he says it's only till we can reach a stage where Somalia is safe and stable and individual politics like back in 1960s, where tribe wasn't needed as u didn't fear the state may be used against you by some clannist in power. He said if we returned to that stage, I don't ever wanna see Harti again, I want to go out there and make a name for myself rather then living on my awooweyaal because how long can u live on history? not very long, every generation needs to make a name for himself is my father point and it's impossible to do that in TRIBALLY VICIOUS SOMALIA which he squarely blames SSDF for introducing.

People will forget history contributions after 5 generations, that's why u need to ensure each generation adds something while alive or else it could negatively impact on your clans future, like what is happening today to hawiye, this is devastating outcome for they're kids wallahi who must love they're parents deep down but are 'ashamed' of them not thinking about they're future while other parents in somalia think about they're kids future.

Yo @Jablibax I hear Jama is over in London, so relax. Bah Dubays keep they're word. Listen there was no way we going to fight those reer mahad, the solution was safety first. We don't wanna lose our 'leaders' muse suldan, bah dubays will pay the price in body parts. You guys are so lucky osman mahmoud does they're own thing separately as bah bah, we are not united but if we were, you niggas would be all annihilated, you can barely handle just one bah at a time like cade muse vs abdillahi
 
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@Libaaxseendheer I would tell dhulbahante reer sool the truth. You just hurting yourselves by being split both ways. Even if you join Isaaq, no matter the outcome, once that land is displaced which it definitely will be, the other sons of harti will convene on ensuring the land and it's area is shared equally with the remaining brothers be it maxamud, maxamed, morasante, and god knows how many more. It's always worked like this and why you will find very few darod lands missing, as they push in to ensure inheritance law of islam of going to next of kin. This will result in Harti moving into Sool and Cayn as migration patterns happen always and beginning rebuilding. They will warn the Isaaq our new neighbors lets start on new history of deris wanaag, haday diidana, we remind them where our brothers are all coming for the WAR. Somali is simple language, faan, iyo online propaganda, ana ka awood badan ma jiro, you just take them for a tour thru your miyi areas and compare it to they'res and they will understand the suicide pact they will sign.
 

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@DR OSMAN inta jifo beesha u kala baxdo.... reerka reer add u balaran weye.
Inta jifo beesha cusman maxamud 1.Idarays Cisman (Bah Gareen) 2.Xuseen Cisman (Bah Gareen) 3.Axmad Cisman (Bah Gareen) 4.Cabdikarim Yuusuf 5.Dudub Yuusuf .cisse Yusuf(Bah leelkase) 6.Diini Yuusuf (Bah Leelkase) 7.Caamir Maxamad 8.Cilmi Maxamad 9.Muuse Maxamad 10.Ismaaciil Maxamad 11.Samatar Cumar 12.Guleed Cumar 13.Yuusuf Cumar(Bah Araarsame) 14.Yuusuf Suldaan 15.Maxamad Suldan 16.Dalal Suldan 17.Muuse Suldan 18. Ismail sultan 19.Faarax Maxamad (Is-Xul) 20.Nuur Yuusuf (Is-Xul) 21.Muuse Yuusuf (Is-Xul) 22.SamatarYuusuf (Is-Xul) 23.Ugaaryahan Yuusuf (Is-Xul) 24.Siciid Yuusuf (Bah Dubays) 25.Xasan Yuusuf (Bah Dubays) 26.Ugaaryahan Maxamud(Bah Dhulbante) 27.Liibaan Maxamud (Bah Dhulbahante) 28.Cigale Maxamud (Bah Dhulbahante) 29.Xirsi Maxamuud (Bah Dhulbahante) 30.Xuseen Maxamud(Bah Yaaquub) 31.Xasan Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 32.Shirwac Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 32.Wacays Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 33.Nuux Maxamuud (Bah Yaaquub) 34.Cumar Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 35.Warfaa Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble) 36.Guleed Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble) 37.Samatar. Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble) 38.Maxamad Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble)
 

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@DR OSMAN inta jifo beesha u kala baxdo.... reerka reer add u balaran weye.
Inta jifo beesha cusman maxamud 1.Idarays Cisman (Bah Gareen) 2.Xuseen Cisman (Bah Gareen) 3.Axmad Cisman (Bah Gareen) 4.Cabdikarim Yuusuf 5.Dudub Yuusuf .cisse Yusuf(Bah leelkase) 6.Diini Yuusuf (Bah Leelkase) 7.Caamir Maxamad 8.Cilmi Maxamad 9.Muuse Maxamad 10.Ismaaciil Maxamad 11.Samatar Cumar 12.Guleed Cumar 13.Yuusuf Cumar(Bah Araarsame) 14.Yuusuf Suldaan 15.Maxamad Suldan 16.Dalal Suldan 17.Muuse Suldan 18. Ismail sultan 19.Faarax Maxamad (Is-Xul) 20.Nuur Yuusuf (Is-Xul) 21.Muuse Yuusuf (Is-Xul) 22.SamatarYuusuf (Is-Xul) 23.Ugaaryahan Yuusuf (Is-Xul) 24.Siciid Yuusuf (Bah Dubays) 25.Xasan Yuusuf (Bah Dubays) 26.Ugaaryahan Maxamud(Bah Dhulbante) 27.Liibaan Maxamud (Bah Dhulbahante) 28.Cigale Maxamud (Bah Dhulbahante) 29.Xirsi Maxamuud (Bah Dhulbahante) 30.Xuseen Maxamud(Bah Yaaquub) 31.Xasan Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 32.Shirwac Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 32.Wacays Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 33.Nuux Maxamuud (Bah Yaaquub) 34.Cumar Maxamud (Bah Yaaquub) 35.Warfaa Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble) 36.Guleed Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble) 37.Samatar. Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble) 38.Maxamad Maxamuud (Bah Dir Rooble)

Niyahow siday uu kala dhow yihin ma ii sheegi karta? I am not 100% informed, but clan specialist is required in my policies for Somalia. Siday dhaqanka tahay hadadan ogayn in qof walbo ki uu dhow ama ki political alliance ka jira aadan garanaynin, waa fashilmaysa siyasadu, waa gebi ahan somalia. I will have hawiye specialist(real deal) not these online crap but the one in the country who can PROVE IT house to house, village to village and how they connect, they're history, contributions, worries, fears, and vision. I will collect all this from my clan specialist, i will definitely have a crew of you guys in my team, i will call them 'cabinetkayga dhaqanka'
 

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Write it too me, see in Somalia wax kasto 'af bay isku gudbi jireen' like u r doing now thru whatsapp. U need to write brother, we need to 'archive and store' and keep this information for future generation. Somalis need to learn to write more then 'talk' more they're knowledge, it's brilliant knowledge they have, if they just put it to pen. It would be great literature society. They r slowly starting now, but osman mahmoud started a century ago the writing game. Gaas is now writing a book. See what I like about Omar mahmoud, foundationki loo samaye way ka si duulan dheh, they dont sit there and argue back at u, it's about the end goal nothing else, people are given foundation to move in life.

I got my foundation from Yusuf Maxamed awoowaheena who married a dubays woman and had my ancestor hassan yusuf and brother sicid yusuf and there was 3 other lineages but they are no longer with us due to wars with bah dir over many matters. I will inject foundation for dubays in dhahar and they must inject into me. Wiil iyo Abti style lakin wiil iyo abti waan isku dhow nahay cuz we still share common habar majerten mother, where-as my abti murusade are further to me because isku odayaal ma galno, i heard my mother abtirsi, it's nothing like mine or abahay racayo. Thats when i realized males inherit the name and carry it on and women inherit the name lakin ma si wadi karto lakin dhinac kale bay shaqayan dhaqanki hore 'hanti bay keenaan' marki loo guriyo UPPER CLASS SOCIETIES. Lakin u need to be upper class clan yourself before ur women are treated upper class, way isla shaqayan runti according to my father to carry beesha further. An EELAY woman 2 geel ma siiyeen, lakin naag ka timi beel AWOOD BADAN LEH iyo WADANIYIN LEH, GABYA LEH, INVENTORS LEH, GANACSATO LEH, DEGAANKISA BEAUTIFUL YAHAY, QABIILKISA DHISAN YAHAY, 100 GEEL WEEYE. Why? she will pass on her clan knowledge to help me. We tried with reer mahad but we didnt succeed, we only got reer hersi women my awoowe.

Can u imagine 100 geel 1920. Price houses were like 10 geels. U paid literally 10 worth of properties in our market place for her hand..Now in hawiye time, you dont even have to pay anything in some clans they are so cheap and worthless
 

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I cant write here brother its public forum.... @DR OSMAN

Ok PM me. It doesn't matter if they know or don't hadaysan QOYS KU haysan inside osman mahmoud, it doesnt matter they know our lineages or not, guri osman mahmoud maba galayan, qof yaqan maba jiree kkkkk.

PM ME bro but it's good I know this. I know my reer abti too well, I grew up around them. They united well inside murusade, lakin they are not united with abgaal who they dont like and fear his large population but they also tried HG and saw he 'backstabbed' them in dagaalka KUWAIT
 

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Inshallah my brother.... bah dubeeys is my favorite cusman maxamud subclan... I have couple bah dubeeys friend here in Columbus ohio wa dad gob ah..... asho gaare my favorite edo is bah dubeeys she is in garowe now
 

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Inshallah my brother.... bah dubeeys is my favorite cusman maxamud subclan... I have couple bah dubeeys friend here in Columbus ohio wa dad gob ah..... asho gaare my favorite edo is bah dubeeys she is in garowe now

Cadalada ayaa gob ah, ma aha inaad qabiil keliya isku waashid, lakin meesha xaq aad ku lee dahay lagama xishooda, ama cadalad daro wax laguma dhisi karo akhirki dadka ayaa isku nacayo. Intan la soo faristo nugaal marki kursiyasha la qaybsanaye, waan oran karnee war haloo qaybsado beelaha ee degaanka naga daaya sida hawiyaha uu yirahdeen carta conference. Taas waxay keeni kartay anigo tuuloyin dhowr ah degan iyo xafado lakin miyi baan ku badan ahay in aan la sinaado issa mahmoud oo toban jeer ii dhigma. Waa laysku xishooda ma garatay? cadalad daro wax laguma helo niyahow wa ku burburaysa baan ku arkay, thats why hamar malin walbo qarax kama dhamaado.

Meel murusade ku faanayo inu 9 kursi lee yahay halka majerten 12, isaguna ceelbur hal qayb ka degan yahay iyo xafad xun oo hamar ku taalo waxay ku tusinaya tanasul noocasi oo kale waxay hada keentay in somalida is nacdo oo qaraxu si bato oo cadow kasto dalka joggo hamar uu arkayo meel cadalaad oolin. Hadan sidasi ku samayn lahayn garowe, wallahi qarax kama bixi lahayn iyo aanoyin qabiil. Somalidu wax aysan istahilin bay jecel yihin, wallahi my murusade abti wuu igu qoslay oo yiri idinka oglaateen 4.5 carta, and i said waa runta waa doqomo oo aan arkaynin khatarta ka imadi karta berito iyaga is leh dadka uu roonada, waa adigo tiri african american waa inu la siinada white american dhinaca parliamentka. Now we share rotation with reer omar on one seat, wuxu dhaama kurusi la'an, thats how somalis should view everything, ma aha inay wax kasto uu arkan waa inaan badsada lakin inay uu arkan alhamdulilah hadan wax haysto. War xitaa waqti waxaa gaari karta adigo dhul haysan which is the worst thing iska daa kursi iyo awood kkkk waan soo aragnay niyahow tarikhdasi marki bari laga soo GUURAY, MANTANA WAA ARAGTA TARIKHDASI SHABELLAHA PUNTLAND IMANAYO, SIDA LOO EEGAYO SOO MA ARAG, KA WARAN WAAGI HORE MA JIRIN NAXARISTA MANTA JIRA, WAXAY KU NOOLAYEEN WAQTI HORE OO ADUUNKEENA MANTA KA DUWAN SHARCIYADA YAALO.

If we placed these southern residents that come to PL fleeing the south like bah dubays fled bari centuries ago and the same condition, wallahi way dhiman lahayeen waa iga walle, naxaris badan bala siiya kuwani manta sababto ah aduunka sharcigisa human right ba jira, waagi hore waxasi ma oolin aduunka. Anagu waxan ku soo galnay anaga xoolaheena haysana nugaal iyo boohartu, at least we came in respectfully in nugaal...guri ama geel ii si kuma baryotamin markan issa mahmoudka aragnay.
 
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@DR OSMAN my adeer jamac kulun ali chilling in dhuudo.... bah dubeeys should move out of nugaal and move to dagmada banderbeyla with there awooweyal muse sultan
 

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