did any 3rd world country manage to go foward without being like UAE and not every city looking like a slum?

[December]

i think every 3rd world country should aspire as much as possible to not be like brazil (filled with favelas) or india (basically an alternative demention of a decaying europe) or the gulf (fake cities), what options are out there?

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

i think every 3rd world country should aspire as much as possible to not be like brazil (filled with favelas) or india (basically an alternative demention of a decaying europe) or the gulf (fake cities), what options are out there?

Malaysia somewhere between 1st world and 3rd world but closer in living standards to their first world counterparts

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Look to the east! Look to Malaysia and Indonesia.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Malaysia somewhere between 1st world and 3rd world but closer in living standards to their first world counterparts

Fully agree

 

[hayran]

depends on what you count as 'development', if it's just infrastructure and aesthetic first world look many post-soviet nations could fit that definition. if you want societal upheaval then it's probably china.

a lot of countries develop gradually and improve over generations so most people don't even notice the change. in a few decades places like indonesia, dominican republic, thailand, malaysia and vietnam will develop and no one will remember a time when they were actually poor.

 

[reer]

depends on what you count as 'development', if it's just infrastructure and aesthetic first world look many post-soviet nations could fit that definition. if you want societal upheaval then it's probably china.

a lot of countries develop gradually and improve over generations so most people don't even notice the change. in a few decades places like indonesia, dominican republic, thailand, malaysia and vietnam will develop and no one will remember a time when they were actually poor.

society upheaval as you said. if youre a country in a geopolitical hotspot then for leaving poverty you need a dictatorship or monarchy unless you want to wait for 40+ years like countries that have the luxury of not being situated in geopolitical hotspots (the red sea, north africa etc).

 

[NordicSomali]

Look to the east! Look to Malaysia and Indonesia.

True, there are countless former 3rd world countries who are today regarded as emerging economies.

 

[hayran]

society upheaval as you said. if youre a country in a geopolitical hotspot then for leaving poverty you need a dictatorship or monarchy unless you want to wait for 40+ years like countries that have the luxury of not being situated in geopolitical hotspots (the red sea, north africa etc).

keep in mind, pre-mao china was basically centuries of subjugation by mongols, manchurians and then japanese. gumaysi over those long periods of time is fertile groundwork for "revolutionaries" to enforce insane reforms top down. an entire culture doesn't change overnight. i use this example because these sorts of radical cultural reforms are the high risk high reward ones proven to work independently, sorta the same with the ex soviet nations and how they got raped by mongols.

many of these authoritarian developmentalist projects fail without strong commitment from a superpower like the USA.

on the other end of the spectrum you have the gulf, where tribes agreed on one clans legitimacy and have them keep the peace. idk why people don't discount them but they're in the biggest geopolitical hotspot and they're doing more than fine. compare what they have now to all the arab republics and iran and you'll get it.

ideally just have the country be run by it's business people and wait like 40 years, let the politicians be puppets

 

[ForwardSweep]

South Korea was a mega poor country until some years after the Korean War.