Do any of you have Somali names?

Shimbiris

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because africans had no influence on europeans. the europeans who were influenced by arabs like the spanish to this day still have arabic names. at the end of the day whether you like ot or not, arabic had a strong influence on much of the world including somalia, thats not the issue. somali culture is just weak. no real written language, no literature, no arts, no media....if it fades away its not arabic influence its because its lackluster. most other cultures would use parts from other cultures to modernize their own while still retaining their own culture.

Somali culture is hardly "weak", especially on the homefront. Somalis quite remarkably made every single foreign group in their midst, including Arabs like Yemenis, assimilate to their culture. There is almost no case of the reverse happening in Somaliweyn. Oromos, Arabs, the various diverse groups who intermarried with Gibil-Madow Benadiris like Central Asians, Desis, Egyptians, Iranics and so on... former enslaved Bantus... virtually all adopted the Somali language and cultural elements and sometimes barely even remember their previous roots like how most Gibil-Cad Benadiris have no clue that there's usually 1/4th Desi ancestry in them.

Yes, in the actual Somali language itself there's not all that much preserved literature (though there was historically a fair amount) because Somalis predominantly used Arabic as their written language for the last thousand years but so what? Lots of peoples like that. It's unfair though to claim an ethnic group who produced scholars 200 years ago or more that were being respected in places like Cairo and Makkah have a weak literary culture. And arts and media? C'mon, there's almost too much of that with Somalis, not to mention our language's beautiful poetic tradition which impressed many ajanabi groups. And there really are zero indications that our language and culture is going to fade. All this "We are becoming Arabs" stuff is beyond braindead and untrue. Most people back home don't even speak Arabic.
 

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I got an old school Somali first and last name.

But I want to change my Somali government last name to Harti. It sounds cool and has a nice meaning. :damn:
 

Shimbiris

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I got an old school Somali first and last name.

But I want to change my Somali government last name to Harti. It sounds cool and has a nice meaning. :damn:

Too Qabiilist, waryaa. You'll get side-eyed by everybody. We ain't Arabs with all this "Ahmed bin Suleiman al-Bani whatever".
 

Apollo

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To Qabiilist, waryaa. You'll get side-eyed by everybody. We ain't Arabs with all this "Ahmed bin Suleiman al-Bani whatever".

Nobody uses it as a last name. Although googling around, some Maghrebis go by El Harti, but probably a false friend (linguistic term).
 

Shimbiris

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Nobody uses it as a last name. Although googling around, some Maghrebis go by El Harti, but probably a false friend (linguistic term).

Arabs use their qabiils in their names quite often. You'll see somebody with a name like "Hussein bin Abdullah Al-...." the "Al" part is often their tribe's name. Completely unheard for Somalis, though. We don't insert qabiils into our names like that.
 
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I always wonder what made geeljirres to quickly do away with Somali names. Majority of Somalis were pure nomads and knew very little about Islamic culture until the 20th century but for some reason, every qabiil adopted Arabic names.
 
because africans had no influence on europeans. the europeans who were influenced by arabs like the spanish to this day still have arabic names. at the end of the day whether you like ot or not, arabic had a strong influence on much of the world including somalia, thats not the issue. somali culture is just weak. no real written language, no literature, no arts, no media....if it fades away its not arabic influence its because its lackluster. most other cultures would use parts from other cultures to modernize their own while still retaining their own culture.
Somali ppl shouldnt do tht and revive their language and their culture and names because other are doing doesnt mean somali ppl have to do it
Language and culture and names cloths are important
 

4head

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Nacallah. I have an uncle in Jabuuti of Dhulo descent and he was named "Antoine". I pray for you niggas' souls.

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry sounds better than any Somali name kkk,
I was cursed with my somali names (3 out of 4, with one with hebraic origins)

Reer Djibouti are going to the end of being French-Africans!
Nobody wants to stay as savage as normal Africans kkk.

Like the Gallo-Romans who thought they were more Romans than their Gaulic Origins kkkk.
:trumpsmirk:
 

Shimbiris

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Antoine de Saint-Exupéry sounds better than any Somali name kkk,
I was cursed with my somali names (3 out of 4, with one with hebraic origins)

Reer Djibouti are going to the end of being French-Africans!
Nobody wants to stay as savage as normal Africans kkk.

Like the Gallo-Romans who thought they were more Romans than their Gaulic Origins kkkk.
:trumpsmirk:

War shaddup, bastaryahow.

:pachah1:
 
I think some Arabic names are practically Somali names at this point

Like Hibaq, Sumaya, Zamzam/Samsam, Sahra, I’ve never met a non Somali with these names
 

Shimbiris

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4 Somali biggest clans claim to be Arabs with their elongated necks and dark skin,

I'm claiming a better civilization than some desert-smelling people.

:trumpsmirk:

Nuug my , nigga. Better civilization kulaha. Your Frogs are just the descendants of Congolese civilization level savages who were shown the ways of humanity by Greco-Romans while only really becoming impressive on the world stage during the early modern era and beyond. Arabs and Semites were civilized thousands of years before your Frogs' ancestors even knew what writing looked like.
 

4head

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Nuug my , nigga. Better civilization kulaha. Your Frogs are just the descendants of Congolese civilization level savages who were shown the ways of humanity by Greco-Romans while only really becoming impressive on the world stage during the early modern era and beyond. Arabs and Semites were civilized thousands of years before your Frogs' ancestors even knew what writing looked like.

What are you talking about, nigga?
Who colonised 1/4 of Somalis?
Who sold off most West-Africans?
Who discovered medecine and arts, and philosophy in the Modern Times?

I love the whatabboutism with Semites, but stay humble:
most of Semites were already colonised by the Europeans, as late as the 3rd century before common time; and only Persians were (are still) the most civilized ones in the Middle East.
Egypt was already a Greek colony by 332 BC.

Lol @your attempt to diminsh French Excellence:
First, we had one of the longest monarchies on earth,
then, an Empire which could buy and sell your entire country for a bag of dates,
and lastly, French innovations (whether in Philosophy with Descarte or Maths with Poincarré, or with politics with the "Art of Diplomacy" with Richelieu), you can't compare them with Arabs who were already lost after the end of Al-Andalus.


I thought I had a discussion with a History buff but you're another lost Somali wannabe-Arab Islamic that doesn't understand that the West has surpassed your civilization since the fall of Constantinople.

Btw,

The French have had a long-lasting civilization, way better the Beasts who burried their daughters.
And if you don't believe me,
go live with them and tell me how on earth these retards got owned by the Westerners.





Delusionnal Zoo,

one Civilization is better than the "other".
:chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah:
 

Shimbiris

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What are you talking about, nigga?
Who colonised 1/4 of Somalis?
Who sold off most West-Africans?
Who discovered medecine and arts, and philosophy in the Modern Times?

I love the whatabboutism with Semites, but stay humble:
most of Semites were already colonised by the Europeans, as late as the 3rd century before common time; and only Persians were (are still) the most civilized ones in the Middle East.
Egypt was already a Greek colony by 332 BC.

Lol @your attempt to diminsh French Excellence:
First, we had one of the longest monarchies on earth,
then, an Empire which could buy and sell your entire country for a bag of dates,
and lastly, French innovations (whether in Philosophy with Descarte or Maths with Poincarré, or with politics with the "Art of Diplomacy" with Richelieu), you can't compare them with Arabs who were already lost after the end of Al-Andalus.


I thought I had a discussion with a History buff but you're another lost Somali wannabe-Arab Islamic that doesn't understand that the West has surpassed your civilization since the fall of Constantinople.

Btw,

The French have had a long-lasting civilization, way better the Beasts who burried their daughters.
And if you don't believe me,
go live with them and tell me how on earth these retards got owned by the Westerners.





Delusionnal Zoo,

one Civilization is better than the "other".
:chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah:

What kind of utterly delusional nonsense is this? Semites and MENAs as a whole have the oldest civilizations on Earth. There is no arguing this. It is completely uncontroversial and I don't need to like Arabs or be an "Arab wannabe' to admit this. And "Europeans" you are talking about who colonized the Middle-East in ancient times, namely Greco-Romans, got their civilization from the Middle-East. Greeks were historically mostly of Middle-Eastern genetic origins and the base of their civilization, the Minoans were pretty much of entirely ancient MENA descent. This has been shown in the archaeogenetic literature several times:

.

And the oldest Semitic text is in Akkadian attested at around 2500 BCE. South Arabian and Arabic group texts date to around 1000 BCE and earlier and Semites literally invented the Alphabet. The name literally comes from Alpha and Bet, Semitic letter names that share cognates with Alef and Ba in Arabic:


The earliest texts in what is now France are in Gaullish from around 300-200 BCE in the Greek Alphabet which literally descends straight from the Phoenician (Semitic) alphabet:


Whether you like it or not, MENAs brought civilization to Europe through the Aegean. They also brought things like agriculture to Europe during the Neolithic:


Greece has basically been a constant pipeline since the Neolithic for MENAs to export things like agriculture, metallurgy, writing and civilization to Europe and when the Romans were around Gaul was mostly poorer than regions like Anatolia and Egypt by far:

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Seriously, saxiib, I'm no fan of Arab worship but this is just pure idiocy. Trying to pretend that peoples who were civilized by Greco-Romans after 500 BCE are comparable to MENAs who had civilizations in their region since 3000-4000 BCE. What the hell?
 

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What kind of utterly delusional nonsense is this? Semites and MENAs as a whole have the oldest civilizations on Earth. There is no arguing this. It is completely uncontroversial and I don't need to like Arabs or be an "Arab wannabe' to admit this. And "Europeans" you are talking about who colonized the Middle-East in ancient times, namely Greco-Romans, got their civilization from the Middle-East. Greeks were historically mostly of Middle-Eastern genetic origins and the base of their civilization, the Minoans were pretty much of entirely ancient MENA descent. This has been shown in the archaeogenetic literature several times:

.

And the oldest Semitic text is in Akkadian attested at around 2500 BCE. South Arabian and Arabic group texts date to around 1000 BCE and earlier and Semites literally invented the Alphabet. The name literally comes from Alpha and Bet, Semitic letter names that share cognates with Alef and Ba in Arabic:


The earliest texts in what is now France are in Gaullish from around 300-200 BCE in the Greek Alphabet which literally descends straight from the Phoenician (Semitic) alphabet:


Whether you like it or not, MENAs brought civilization to Europe through the Aegean. They also brought things like agriculture to Europe during the Neolithic:


Greece has basically been a constant pipeline since the Neolithic for MENAs to export things like agriculture, metallurgy, writing and civilization to Europe and when the Romans were around Gaul was mostly poorer than regions like Anatolia and Egypt by far:

xbMMKvj.jpg


Seriously, saxiib, I'm no fan of Arab worship but this is just pure idiocy. Trying to pretend that peoples who were civilized by Greco-Romans after 500 BCE are comparable to MENAs who had civilizations in their region since 3000-4000 BCE. What the hell?


This level of delusion lmao!

One question:
who colonized who?
The Arabs, weren't the dogs that the French and British used against the Ottomans?

Please, just name ONE MAJOR Arab Civilization after the fall of the Byzantum Empire?

Don't compare ancient MENA (Egyptians&Persians; Sumer) and Arabs.
Who taught Philosophy to Arabs? Persians.
And who taught the Persians? Europeans.
Simple maths: the Europeans dominated the Middle East since the fall of the Ayyubids and the fall of last Arab dynasties.
Arabs are pure langaabs, ignorants retards who needed Islam to learn how to not kill their own daughters.

You're being dishonest to compare Arabs (whose language has been rather stagnant since the Middle Ages), and the French who colonised half of Africa, half of Middle East.
If History has stayed as you're projecting it is, we'd have Arabs in Mars and whose civilization would be as far as in China to the Americas.


Lmao.

One civilization is still superior than the other.
I know the Acheminids, the Muslim Dynasties, Asian Empires,etc.
Only Turks and Persians wore the colors of Islam while the Bedouins (that your ancestors are claiming to be one of them) were busy selling slaves and being stagnant.


Peace,

France > your ignorance in History.
 

vanilla

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i really wana change my name to hodan... like every time someone calls my name, it sounds like they are saying 'hold on' and i think thats just beautiful :kendrickcry::kendrickcry:
 

Shimbiris

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The Romans and their Etruscan predecessors were mostly civilized by Greeks, for the record. Here is the pre-Etruscan Villanova culture's architecture:

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After Greek influences set in:

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Not to mention that the Old Italic script used by the Etruscans was more or less a variant of Euboean Greek:


This is the same set of scripts from which Latin and Runic sprung. And the Romans too had alot of MENA ancestry especially by the mid to late Republican eras:

No. This is basically what Somalis are as far as we can so far tell:



Tl;dr: Neolithic Sudanese + Neolithic North-African mixes who migrated into the Horn then got some South-Arabian around 2,500-3,000 years ago and also mixed a bit with native Horn Hunter-Gatherers when they got to the Horn. That's almost all Cushitic-Ethiosemitic Horners in a nutshell. It's mainly just the percentages of each ancestry component that differ like Tigrays obviously having way more (20-30%) of the South-Arabian than Somalis (1-10%).



The gist I got from the paper's samples on ancient Romans and the paper itself is this:
  • The pre-Latin people Copper-Age people were basically like Sardinians (heavily Anatolian Neolithic with notable WHG)
  • Early Latini tribes people who encroached on the prior people were heavily Anatolian Neolithic with a lot of steppe and would have clustered around where North-Italians do. Intermediates between the Middle-East and North-Central Europe but more biased toward North-Central Europe (60-40 or 70-30). I ran the samples myself though and their ME shift seems entirely Anatolian Farmer. They do not have Greek/Levantine (East-Med) admixture. However, there are two samples from their time who are heavily East-Med admixed like later Imperial samples so the East-Med admixture was starting to show up even back then around Rome.
  • We only have two "Republican" era samples in truth and they are both totally different despite being from the same site and time period. One looks heavily East-Med admixed like later Imperial era samples and one looks pretty much like the old Latini tribes people.
  • Imperial era Romans seem uniformly heavily East-Med admixed with lots of ancestry from Greece and the Levant and lots of J and E lineages too. What I described with the Latini tribes people's shift flips and it's more like a 60-40 or above shift toward the Middle-East now.
This guy summarizes it rather well:

Basically Romans started out like Sardinians then North Italian-like, then by late Republican Era and early Imperial Era Magna Graecians and then the Eastern provinces drastically changed the demographics.

And I have those samples here with all the other ancient Italian samples:

Link

Dunno why Davidski would delete them if he apparently did.

The "Europeans" you are idolizing share lots and lots of ancestry with MENAs, "Arabs" included.
 

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