Do Somalis know any businesses other than coffee shops and hotels?

[Idilinaa]

Kenya in the last 25 years went from 5% access to 75%. They will likely achieve 100% by 2030 and have aims to take out loans to get to 100GW by 2040.

Somalia in the same span went from 5% to 49% and that is almost exclusively basic access like lightbulbs and smartphone charging in major cities. We will still have no government by 2040 and we will probably still have no significant manufacturing even with AGI.

If I am wrong I will be happy maybe BECO will give us Nuclear Fusion by way of Somali innovation free of debt

In Kenya it took them 25 years and billions in Chinese debt, World Bank loans, and IMF handouts just to reach 75% electricity access and they still have many rural areas in total darkness. Government-controlled, inefficient, bloated, slow.

Meanwhile Somalia rebuilt its entire power sector from zero after a total collapse without loans, without aid, without debt and private companies(BECCO, SOMPOWER) expanded electricity access to 80% in just 5 to 7 years. Powering businesses, factories, homes, IT stations etc. All done through pure private sector competition and Somali entrepreneurship.

In fact, rural Somalia today has better electricity access than some Kenyan towns. People in Mandera, Kenya, literally cross the border to Somalia to charge their phones, get water, and buy cold drinks.

(As even a Kenyan MP himself admitted , imagine how embarrassing that is.)

The MP says : "The people of Mandera town are going to get water, cold drinks and charge their phones in another country (Somalia).'' ''It's not a failed state in terms of Power. They are doing their things much better and organized. How do we have power in Bulahara but we don't have power in Mandera town?"



As you can see:

• Somalia's power sector = debt-free, efficient, locally owned, and rapidly expanding.
• Kenya’s = foreign-financed, loan-dependent, and still failing to deliver basic services to its own citizens.

As for manufacturing:
Sure, Kenya has factories but they’re owned by foreign corporations (British, Indian, Chinese) who offshore the profits. Kenya is stuck in a neo-colonial economic trap, surviving on debt and aid.

In Somalia, manufacturing (10-15% of GDP) is growing organically and owned by Somalis themselves from cement to textiles, steel, food processing, plastics, pharmaceuticals. Profits stay inside Somalia and fund local reinvestment.

The real difference?

• Somalia: Local ownership, self-reliance, no debt, private innovation.
• Kenya: Foreign ownership, debt-dependency, IMF babysitting.

So bragging about Kenya like it's a model when even basic services fail at the border is just... embarrassing, walaal. Somalia did in 5 years what Kenya couldn’t do in 25 and Somalia did it better, cheaper, and without selling its future to Beijing or the World Bank."

 

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In Kenya it took them 25 years and billions in Chinese debt, World Bank loans, and IMF handouts just to reach 75% electricity access and they still have many rural areas in total darkness. Government-controlled, inefficient, bloated, slow.

What the hell do you mean many rural areas its 84% of the population currently with access and 100% by 2030. Why would we measure it by land access?!

Meanwhile Somalia rebuilt its entire power sector from zero after a total collapse without loans, without aid, without debt and private companies(BECCO, SOMPOWER) expanded electricity access to 80% in just 5 to 7 years. Powering businesses, factories, homes, IT stations etc. All done through pure private sector competition and Somali entrepreneurship.

In fact, rural Somalia today has better electricity access than some Kenyan towns. People in Mandera, Kenya, literally cross the border to Somalia to charge their phones, get water, and buy cold drinks.

(As even a Kenyan MP himself admitted , imagine how embarrassing that is.)

The MP says : "The people of Mandera town are going to get water, cold drinks and charge their phones in another country (Somalia).'' ''It's not a failed state in terms of Power. They are doing their things much better and organized. How do we have power in Bulahara but we don't have power in Mandera town?"



As you can see:

• Somalia's power sector = debt-free, efficient, locally owned, and rapidly expanding.
• Kenya’s = foreign-financed, loan-dependent, and still failing to deliver basic services to its own citizens.

As for manufacturing:
Sure, Kenya has factories but they’re owned by foreign corporations (British, Indian, Chinese) who offshore the profits. Kenya is stuck in a neo-colonial economic trap, surviving on debt and aid.

In Somalia, manufacturing (10-15% of GDP) is growing organically and owned by Somalis themselves from cement to textiles, steel, food processing, plastics, pharmaceuticals. Profits stay inside Somalia and fund local reinvestment.

You keep saying rural Somalia and I dont know what you are referring to. There is no stats backing any of that up.

The real difference?

• Somalia: Local ownership, self-reliance, no debt, private innovation.
• Kenya: Foreign ownership, debt-dependency, IMF babysitting.

So bragging about Kenya like it's a model when even basic services fail at the border is just... embarrassing, walaal. Somalia did in 5 years what Kenya couldn’t do in 25 and Somalia did it better, cheaper, and without selling its future to Beijing or the World Bank."

“Bragging about Kenya”
“Foreign ownership”
“Somalia did it better and cheaper”
“Somalia did in 5 years what they couldnt do in 25”

You would have loved the Farmajo era Sspot. Lots of khayaali and pretend nationalism.

 

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What the hell do you mean many rural areas its 84% of the population currently with access and 100% by 2030. Why would we measure it by land access?!

Why doesn't Mandera Town have power then? It's not even that rural it's a populated town, but the people there have to cross over to Somalia for electricity and water.

It's not just them many rural areas complain about it


This is felt throughout Kenya. What's crazy about it is that some of them live right next to these power plants and yet no electricity

“We had high hopes when the government launched the project. But we are yet to get electricity despite power lines passing right above our homes,” a resident, Ms Dorine Cheptoo, told the Nation.

Other villages that are without power despite being located near the plant are Lochokee, Kositey, Lorogon, and Emong. Locals use solar and kerosene lamps to light their homes.

NTV Kenya: The village that makes electricity but lives in darkness

When the sun goes down, an inky darkness envelops Riting village on the shores of Lake Turkwel.

ntvkenya.co.ke

You keep saying rural Somalia and I dont know what you are referring to. There is no stats backing any of that up.

I keep saying rural because power increasingly expanding to rural areas and across the whole of Somalia.

According to Somalia's integrated household budget stats in 2022-2023. 61% of the population had access to electricity and 80% of Urban dwellers had access to electricity compared to more than 1/3rd of rural population.

We don't have the Integrated household budget stats from 2024-2025 , i can bet it will be close to 75%-80% with Green energy making up most of it, after all the projects are completed by the end of this year.

Not only that as i have spoken about the various water companies throughout , now most of Somalia have access to clean and safe water.

“Bragging about Kenya”
“Foreign ownership”
“Somalia did it better and cheaper”
“Somalia did in 5 years what they couldnt do in 25”

You would have loved the Farmajo era Sspot. Lots of khayaali and pretend nationalism.

I have nothing personal against Kenya, i wish for them to have the best living standards. We are neighbors after all, so if they succeed it will just be a boost for the whole region, really.

But everything i pointed out about it's flaws are true, the revenues go to debt service rather than benefit the consumers, or infrastructure and the government has to raise prices, taxes etc to pay them off. Heavy foreign ownership means the profits from industry don't go into the local economy. The government inefficiency and corruptions is hampering its progress as well.

There is a lot they can actually learn from Somalia when it comes to this. Somalis don't wait for handouts.

Also demonstrating Somalia's successes and gains despite its challenges it's not pretend nationalism. It's me giving our people credit for the work they have done and seeing the advantages it brings.