Do you guys believe in Sixir?

[government]

I really don't know where you get that. Because if it did say that, and people did explore and quantize reality, there would be a mass exodus from Islam. The things you stumble upon wouldn't match Islamic teachings. For example, sperm is NOT produced between the backbone and rib, as Muhammad would have you believe.

The Quran never says that again this another problem with translating from Arabic to English

 

[Burhan]

It says to explore the universe? A Muslim has NEVER won a noble peace prize or made any significant scientific discovery or advance, ever. Spain translates more books than all Muslim countries combined. Architecture, electrical engineering and scientific research in the Arab world is almost exclusively contracted out to British and American companies.

Without Muslims, we would not have Science today. This is the view of credible secular EUROPEAN scholars. Does Algebra ring a bell? You have no dignity making these claims so boldly without even realizing how easy it is to debunk your bs.

Back in those days when Muslims were schooling Europeans, Nobel didn't exist and it is certain they would be the most recipients of it for their stellar contributions to science.

 

[The_Cosmos]

What argument? you sound mentally retarded questioning directions on earth because it is spherical. I am not supposed to honor bullshit when I see one glaring back at me.

Damiinintaa tihiin wasee stop wasting gov's time. He should not honor your bs with answers.

Loool You literally sound like an inbred who's too retarded to comprehend what's actually going on.


Let me break it down for the little inbred you really are

We were discussing, like civilised gentlemen, that the Earth is a sphere and therefore this causes issues for those who wish to face towards the qibla for prayer. Directions don't curve because they're not effected by gravity and thus your qibla, in North America, will be headed into deep space. Plus, if you were in North America, there's literally two different qiblas because one could face East or west towards Kaaba. This would only make sense if the author of the Quran implied a flat earth because this problem doesn't exist on that model.

Not so complicated now is it?

 

[ThreeTwentyOne]

The Quran never says that again this another problem with translating from Arabic to English

There has never been an issue with translation. Or else they would not have published translations in the first place.

 

[Axmed Xaji]

Reality he means Dogma he espouses. Don't buy into his ignorance. This guy called Big Bang theory weakest scientific theory. I wonder what is his take on Darwin's view of humans descending from Apes. I would like to hear how he supports that theory whilst denying The biggest Physics and Cosmological scientific discovery mankind made ever through the Big Bang theory.

Evolution is logical. There is variation in every species population. Some of the members of the species are suited for their environment and pass on their genes while others don't. For example, there was a butterfly species in England that was white in color when the industrial revolution began. The soot from factories turned the trees dark, exposing these white butterflies to predators. Since there was variation in species, darker butterflies of the same species survived and passed on their genes while the white ones went extinct. That's all evolution is.

 

[Burhan]

It says to explore the universe? A Muslim has NEVER won a noble peace prize or made any significant scientific discovery or advance, ever. Spain translates more books than all Muslim countries combined. Architecture, electrical engineering and scientific research in the Arab world is almost exclusively contracted out to British and American companies.

Muslims in fact took to heart that God said to explore their universe and their surroundings. This motivation is what the rise to Islamic preservation of Greek Science and adding on to it. Muslim cosmology was so advanced that the maps they produced were standard for centuries. Many European greats built on ISLAMIC contribution brought to Europe by way of Spain.

You are dishonest or outright ignorant writing the way about Islam and Muslims.

 

[government]

There has never been an issue with translation. Or else they would not have published translations in the first place.

So let man consider from what he is created. He is created from an emitted fluid that issued from between the sulb and the tara’ib. (86:5-7)
Many non-Arabs misinterpret this verse because they think that sulb and tara’ib refer to different body parts of the male. In reality, tara’ib is feminine, and refers to the female’s body part. For fourteen hundred years, all of the scholars have held this belief, and not a single classical scholar has ever differed on this point. The reason is that the Arabic makes it clear that tara’ib refers to a feminine body part, and not a male one.

 

[Axmed Xaji]

Muslims in fact took to heart that God said to explore their universe and their surroundings. This motivation is what the rise to Islamic preservation of Greek Science and adding on to it. Muslim cosmology was so advanced that the maps they produced were standard for centuries. Many European greats built on ISLAMIC contribution brought to Europe by way of Spain.

You are dishonest or outright ignorant writing the way about Islam and Muslims.

What id muslims teach us about light, other radiation, atoms, electricity, relativity, geology etc.? Nothing. The
fact that some Muslim preserved Aristotle's work doesn't say anything about Islam. None of the things we know about electromagnetism came from Muslims. You know what Muslims were doing when people were first studying quantum physics? They were trying to decipher the true meaning of Quran verses about conquest and Jihad.

 

[Axmed Xaji]

So let man consider from what he is created. He is created from an emitted fluid that issued from between the sulb and the tara’ib. (86:5-7)
Many non-Arabs misinterpret this verse because they think that sulb and tara’ib refer to different body parts of the male. In reality, tara’ib is feminine, and refers to the female’s body part. For fourteen hundred years, all of the scholars have held this belief, and not a single classical scholar has ever differed on this point. The reason is that the Arabic makes it clear that tara’ib refers to a feminine body part, and not a male one.

So, sperm is produced in a feminine body part? What?

 

[Burhan]

Evolution is logical. There is variation in every species population. Some of the members of the species are suited for their environment and pass on their genes while others don't. For example, there was a butterfly species in England that was white in color when the industrial revolution began. The soot from factories turned the trees dark, exposing these white butterflies to predators. Since there was variation in species, darker butterflies of the same species survived and passed on their genes while the white ones went extinct. That's all evolution is.

Not really. That is not evolutionary theory example. The butterfly didn't produce new species different from a butterfly due to environmental pressures. A butterfly is still a butterfly no matter what color a butterfly has. Come up with some more examples. You must be an amateur Darwinian who thought he hit the jackpot by signing up on a Somali forum.

Please!

 

[government]

So, sperm is produced in a feminine body part? What?

The verse is about how humans are created from both eggs and sperm. That why I don't like English translations

 

[Axmed Xaji]

Not really. That is not evolutionary theory example. The butterfly didn't produce new species different from a butterfly due to environmental pressures. A butterfly is still a butterfly no matter what color a butterfly has. Come up with some more examples. You must be an amateur Darwinian who thought he hit the jackpot by signing up on a Somali forum.

Please!

What? A butterfly is still a butterfly? No one said the butterfly produced new species. Where did you get this? I just said there is variation in every species and if conditions favor some physical features, the animal that posses those features survives. For example, there are tall people and short people. If something happened that requires people to be tall or drown, tall people would pass on their genes while short ones die.

 

[government]

What id muslims teach us about light, other radiation, atoms, electricity, relativity, geology etc.? Nothing. The
fact that some Muslim preserved Aristotle's work doesn't say anything about Islam. None of the things we know about electromagnetism came from Muslims. You know what Muslims were doing when people were first studying quantum physics? They were trying to decipher the true meaning of Quran verses about conquest and Jihad.

There is a Muslim that has won a noble prize in science

 

[government]

What? A butterfly is still a butterfly? No one said the butterfly produced new species. Where did you get this? I just said there is variation in every species and if conditions favor some physical features, the animal that posses those features survives. For example, there are tall people and short people. If something happened that requires people to be tall or drown, tall people would pass on their genes while short ones die.

You are talking about micro evolution and he is talking about macro evolution

 

[Burhan]

What id muslims teach us about light, other radiation, atoms, electricity, relativity, geology etc.? Nothing. The fact that some Muslim preserved Aristotle's work doesn't say anything about Islam. None of the things we know about electromagnetism came from Muslims. You know what Muslims were doing when people were first studying quantum physics? They were trying to decipher the true meaning of Quran verses about conquest and Jihad.

The more you write, the more you expose your ignorance and dishonesty in all things Islamic. Both its people of the past and its book. A quick google would turn up Muslim contributions to science including Optics.

Here is a brief quote from Wiki:

Alhazen (Ibn al-Haytham)

Born c. 965 (0965) CE[1](354 AH)[2]
Basra, Buyid Emirate
Died c. 1040 (1041) (aged 75)[3](430 AH)[4]
Cairo, Fatimid Caliphate
Residence

• Basra
• Cairo

Fields

• Optics
• Astronomy
• Mathematics

Known for Book of Optics, Doubts Concerning Ptolemy, Alhazen's problem, Analysis,[5] Catoptrics,[6] Horopter, Moon illusion, experimental science, scientific methodology,[7] visual perception, empirical theory of perception, Animal psychology[8]
Influences Aristotle, Euclid, Ptolemy, Galen, Banū Mūsā, Thābit ibn Qurra, Al-Kindi, Ibn Sahl, Abū Sahl al-Qūhī
Influenced Omar Khayyam, Taqi ad-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf, Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī, Averroes, Al-Khazini, John Peckham, Witelo, Roger Bacon,[9] Kepler

 

[The_Cosmos]

Not really. That is not evolutionary theory example. The butterfly didn't produce new species different from a butterfly due to environmental pressures. A butterfly is still a butterfly no matter what color a butterfly has. Come up with some more examples. You must be an amateur Darwinian who thought he hit the jackpot by signing up on a Somali forum.

Please!

Are you this retarded?!

This is a prime example of adaptation via natural selection. Evolution isn't just about the arising of complicated species, it's also about the process in which it happens. Evolution is just the accumulation of small adaptations that would then add up to create a new species over time. That example is literally a perfect example for evolution.

Wow, you're literally proving how much of an imbecile you are!

 

[The_Cosmos]

You are talking about micro evolution and he is talking about macro evolution

The difference doesn't exist in the scientific field. The process that creates both are exactly the same.

 

[Burhan]

You are talking about micro evolution and he is talking about macro evolution

There is no proven macro evolution. And so called Microevolution in reality is the natural defense Bacteria and Viruses are created with by God to survive changes hostile to their existence. That is no different from our immune system that protects us from dangers.


Every once in a while, some idiot who has no clue about what they are talking about shows up thinking he can get away with bullshit claims in the forums.

 

[Burhan]

Are you this retarded?!

This is a prime example of adaptation via natural selection. Evolution isn't just about the arising of complicated species, it's also about the process in which it happens. Evolution is just the accumulation of small adaptations that would then add up to create a new species over time. That example is literally a perfect example for evolution.

Wow, you're literally proving how much of an imbecile you are!

Only retard here is someone who admitted they are less advanced ape. And you whole heartedly believe that bullshit. Beware of the glass house you live in before you throw rocks at others.

 

[government]

The difference doesn't exist in the scientific field. The process that creates both are exactly the same.

Yes but one is documented and the other isn't