Domestic violence: Are the men always provoked? Who's the real victim?

[Asma]

Mugheerah why are you even on this website, you said so yourself you are not Somali. Stop trying to bring disgusting anti-women Arab culture in here, we are Somali and we are civilised people.

 

[Mugheerah]

It's okay, I see why you're insecure.

No, I'm not insecure. I just didn't know how to respond to that dumb question.

If she's taken against her will then I would fight for her. If she willingly goes with another man, they I'd divorce her. This world is not short of beautiful women.


Edit: I obviously would be jealous if she goes with another man but I will get over it eventually.

 

[Mugheerah]

Mugheerah why are you even on this website, you said so yourself you are not Somali. Stop trying to bring disgusting anti-women Arab culture in here, we are Somali and we are civilised people.

Trust me these values are compatible with civilisation. I am a civilised person. Since the male is traditionally the bread-winner he would usually travel to many places to earn a living for himself and his family. If a women asks her husband where he has been and who he has spoken to, he is not allowed to lie to her. These values don't mean women are imprisoned, the wives (RA) of the Prophet (SAW) would help Muslim soldiers in the battle field by treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, etc. Muslims women can go anywhere they want and work. They just need the permission of their husbands. If it's over 40miles, they should go with a Muharram (for protection). You would understand when you get married. Read about the golden age of Islam, they had the best civilisation mankind has ever seen. There were many female scientists and businesswomen.

P.S. I don't appreciate your racist comments towards me. I have not been racist to you.

 

[Zuleikha]

I always wonder why my xamar cad cad neighbour doesn't come out of the house ileen the cad cads imprisoned their wives.

 

[Baraf]

Don't be quick to blame the male! Some women have very sharp tongues. Most of the times, the only way to make her stfu is to hit her, to humble her a bit.

You mean make her fear for her life. Why not try earning her respect? But then again, do you conduct yourself in such a way to be respected

 

[Asma]

Trust me these values are compatible with civilisation. I am a civilised person. Since the male is traditionally the bread-winner he would usually travel to many places to earn a living for himself and his family. If a women asks her husband where he has been and who he has spoken to, he is not allowed to lie to her. These values don't mean women are imprisoned, the wives (RA) of the Prophet (SAW) would help Muslim soldiers in the battle field by treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, etc. Muslims women can go anywhere they want and work. They just need the permission of their husbands. If it's over 40miles, they should go with a Muharram (for protection). You would understand when you get married. Read about the golden age of Islam, they had the best civilisation mankind has ever seen. There were many female scientists and businesswomen.

P.S. I don't appreciate your racist comments towards me. I have not been racist to you.

The culture of subjugating women is not civilised, stop shoving your poisonous Arab ways onto us Somalis. We have our own culture. Somali women are autonomous and they don't need to ask the permission of their husbands to go out. I never disputed the golden age of Islam, but I am talking about the dire situation Arab/Asian women are in in this moment.

 

[Mugheerah]

The culture of subjugating women is not civilised, stop shoving your poisonous Arab ways onto us Somalis. We have our own culture. Somali women are autonomous and they don't need to ask the permission of their husbands to go out. I never disputed the golden age of Islam, but I am talking about the dire situation Arab/Asian women are in in this moment.

The things I've mentioned were MOST prominent in the golden age of Islam. I don't agree with how some men in our age oppress their women either.

Word of advice, if you ever insult Arabs, don't generalise because that would include the Prophet (SAW) and many of the companions (RA). You can insult me or some of the modern Arabs but becareful of your wording.

 

[Asma]

The things I've mentioned were MOST prominent in the golden age of Islam. I don't agree with how some men in our age oppress their women either.

Word of advice, if you ever insult Arabs, don't generalise because that would include the Prophet (SAW) and many of the companions (RA). You can insult me or some of the modern Arabs but becareful of your wording.

I know they were, but you cannot deny that the Islamic world has regressed both in justice for the common man and in science/innovation. Of course I was not including the Prophet (saw) subhanallah! I am talking about the Arab culture as a whole.

 

[Mugheerah]

I know they were, but you cannot deny that the Islamic world has regressed both in justice for the common man and in science/innovation. Of course I was not including the Prophet (saw) subhanallah! I am talking about the Arab culture as a whole.

The thing about this is 'oppression' is that I've never seen it for myself Wallahi. I was born in Arabia, I've been to 'Arab' countries.

Even in Saudi Arabia women make up a large percentage of the workforce.

Many women from the gulf countries are contributing to civilisation. Maybe these 'monsters' are all in your head. Every Arab man I've met would do anything for his daughter to be educated. A woman I wanted to marry is from Saudi Arabia, I've experienced and seen enough to make a judgement.

The rate of women in Saudi workforce is now almost double that of men.

http://fortune.com/2015/08/10/women-saudi-arabia/

We don't oppress our daughters, we are just more protective that's all.

Maybe you need to stop believing what Fox News tells you about Arabs (which is, most of the times based on false premise) and seek out the truth for yourself.

 

[Bohol]

I once saw a black man beating a black woman in the street, I walked past. No need to get in-between a man and his property ( in their case), if she was Somali I might have been tempted to get involved if she said I love faraaxs and no more Tyrone.

 

[BebsiBolice]

What a disgusting thread. The man is always in the wrong. As a radical feminist I'm happy to admit to scientific fact like men are much more physically stronger than woman. Fucking savages you men are. Disgusting. wallahi shame on you.

 

[madamelioness]

The thing about this is 'oppression' is that I've never seen it for myself Wallahi. I was born in Arabia, I've been to 'Arab' countries.

Even in Saudi Arabia women make up a large percentage of the workforce.

Many women from the gulf countries are contributing to civilisation. Maybe these 'monsters' are all in your head. Every Arab man I've met would do anything for his daughter to be educated. A woman I wanted to marry is from Saudi Arabia, I've experienced and seen enough to make a judgement.

The rate of women in Saudi workforce is now almost double that of men.

http://fortune.com/2015/08/10/women-saudi-arabia/

We don't oppress our daughters, we are just more protective that's all.

Maybe you need to stop believing what Fox News tells you about Arabs (which is, most of the times based on false premise) and seek out the truth for yourself.

If this is true, why do you want to keep your wife inside the house? Would you consult her in the decision making process or you will make all the decisions yourself?

 

[Bahal]

Da Arab can't trust his females cousins around her they like if she alone she fair game with or without her consent



They da biggest perverts on da planet

 

[Mugheerah]

If this is true, why do you want to keep your wife inside the house? Would you consult her in the decision making process or you will make all the decisions yourself?

I would prefer that my wife stays home but if she has a harmless reason to leave the house, then I would let her. For instance, visiting friends and family, shopping, contributing to the community, attending gatherings of muslimas, pretty much everything that's not harmful like going to a club, meeting men, etc.

Consultation (Shura) is encouraged in Islam, of course I would consult her! it's haraam for a husband to lie to his wife. A woman must ask her husband for permission if she wants to leave the house to a particular place (he would not reject the request anyway). This is so that he knows where she is, who she's with and roughly what time she would come home. A wife can ask her husband where he has been too.

I might seem extreme, that's only because I'm extremely jealous, not insecure. There's a difference between jealousy and insecurity.

 

[BebsiBolice]

I would prefer that my wife stays home but if she has a harmless reason to leave the house, then I would let her. For instance, visiting friends and family, shopping, contributing to the community, attending gatherings of muslimas, pretty much everything that's not harmful like going to a club, meeting men, etc.

Consultation (Shura) is encouraged in Islam, of course I would consult her! it's haraam for a husband to lie to his wife. A woman must ask her husband for permission if she wants to leave the house to a particular place (he would not reject the request anyway). This is so that he knows where she is, who she's with and roughly what time she would come home. A wife can ask her husband where he has been too.

I might seem extreme, that's only because I'm extremely jealous, not insecure. There's a difference between jealousy and insecurity.

You're the type of man that ends up in crime static for killing their wives.