Egypt forced to submit to Ethiopia's water politics

[Geeljire]

Singapore is not a good model for Somalia to follow.
The first video says Singapore is planning on becoming water self-sufficient by 2061.
Notwithstanding its massive wealth and small size, Singapore still has a long way to go until it reaches that goal. Somalia cannot compete with Singapore: Somalia is dirt-poor and literally 890 times bigger than Singapore. It could never afford the necessary infrastructure to become water self-sufficient.
Somalia's best hope is to maintain cordial relations with Ethiopia. We don't have to be in bed with them, but war with Ethiopia is not a path Somalia can follow again.

It is a good model, becoming less dependent on Ethiopian supplies is the key. Do you know how dirt poor Singapore was when sought After reducing its dependency? It was just right After it got independence and now they have become a leading nation in water technology. Now every water is made portable in Singapore

By reducing their dependency and utilizing other water alternatives they were sparred being politically bullied around by Malaysia.

We shall at least try to reduce our dependency and Somalias population is really small btw.

 

[Shamis]

The water comes from them so yeah I guess

It's technically from the Nile isn't it? It's not like they created the water source and we were mooching off their work all these millennia. Something messed up about this.

 

[Amira-chan]

It's technically from the Nile isn't it? It's not like they created the water source and we were mooching off their work all these millennia. Something messed up about this.

That's true it belongs to the neutral force of nature but they currently control and claim ownership over it

 

[Shamis]

It should be illegal

But if Egypt won't lose it's water supply, maybe it won't affect ours either.

 

[TheAnswer]

It is a good model, becoming less dependent on Ethiopian supplies is the key. Do you know how dirt poor Singapore was when sought After reducing its dependency? It was just right After it got independence and now they have become a leading nation in water technology. Now every water is made portable in Singapore

By reducing their dependency and utilizing other water alternatives they were sparred being politically being bullied around by malaysia.

We shall at least try to reduce our dependency and Somalias population is really small btw.

Who cares if the population is small, it's spread over an area the size of Texas.
Somalia would not only need to invest in expensive desalination facilities, but also pipes to deliver that fresh water all over the country.
This infrastructure would require not only a massive starting investment, but a continuous amount of money for upkeep. $$$ Somalia doesn't have.

Singapore isa rich city-state with a small land area. Water self-sufficient is an entirely plausible goal for them, but for Somalia it's not. Somalis will continue to depend on the rivers and the water wells for their h20.

 

[Geeljire]

Who cares if the population is small, it's spread over an area the size of Texas.
Somalia would not only need to invest in expensive desalination facilities, but also pipes to deliver that fresh water all over the country.
This infrastructure would require not only a massive starting investment, but a continuous amount of money for upkeep. $$$ Somalia doesn't have.

Singapore isa rich city-state with a small land area. Water self-sufficient is an entirely plausible goal for them, but for Somalia it's not. Somalis will continue to depend on the rivers and the water wells for their h20.

Who cares if the population is small, it's spread over an area the size of Texas.
Somalia would not only need to invest in expensive desalination facilities, but also pipes to deliver that fresh water all over the country.
This infrastructure would require not only a massive starting investment, but a continuous amount of money for upkeep. $$$ Somalia doesn't have.

Singapore isa rich city-state with a small land area. Water self-sufficient is an entirely plausible goal for them, but for Somalia it's not. Somalis will continue to depend on the rivers and the water wells for their h20.

The goal is not to become entirely self sufficient , but less dependent btw the land size is significant because we can utilize more rain drops spread over large areas, the desalination of our shores and recicling of water. It will give us 3 alternative sources that way Ethiopia not be able to threathen us like that and have settle for an agreement.

If they are a rich country now is insignificant when they started the project back when in the 60s they were dirt poor country, the cost effective project was plausible when they managed their budget and made economic progress.

It might sound farfetched but its something worth considering.

 

[Shamis]

At least a billion is needed for desalination. It also needs a lot of oil to keep running. Anyone here actually researched the dam itself?

 

[Mr.Stone]

It is a good model, becoming less dependent on Ethiopian supplies is the key. Do you know how dirt poor Singapore was when sought After reducing its dependency? It was just right After it got independence and now they have become a leading nation in water technology. Now every water is made portable in Singapore

By reducing their dependency and utilizing other water alternatives they were sparred being politically bullied around by Malaysia.

We shall at least try to reduce our dependency and Somalias population is really small btw.

Actually check again when Somalia was at it's pinnacle gross domestic product was 1.9 bill in the 1990, you know what the gross the domestic product of Singapore was in 1965 ? it was 974 million, so the answer is no it's not a good model at all for Somalia since even when Somalia was at it's richest point was close to Singapore's most poorest time and that speaks volumes, and you can't compare their technological development to ours we haven't even build roads that connect together to a few cities we have no infrastructure nada.

 

[Geeljire]

@IslamIsTheAnswer @Shamis @Thegoodshepherd @Mr.Stone

Ok what about the fact that ethiopia is a landlocked nation who heavily depends on the access of Somali ports. If so we can play the political infighting we hold their interests in our hand as well. Eritrea and Djibouti showed them the middle finger now all they have is Somalias ports

"If you are coastal, you serve the world; if you are landlocked, you serve your neighbors.

Maybe this is an advantage we can exploit to put them in their place if they dare?

Edit:
This also seems farfetched seeing the present day circumstances of Somalia today, but food for thought nonetheless.

 

[Shamis]

Somaliland will likely stab us in the back seeing us they're not affected by the dam. Sad but true.

 

[Geeljire]

Somaliland will likely stab us in the back seeing us they're not affected by the dam. Sad but true.

 

[Shamis]

#DividedSomalis

 

[Rooble]

Actually check again when Somalia was at it's pinnacle gross domestic product was 1.9 bill in the 1990, you know what the gross the domestic product of Singapore was in 1965 ? it was 974 million, so the answer is no it's not a good model at all for Somalia since even when Somalia was at it's richest point was close to Singapore's most poorest time and that speaks volumes, and you can't compare their technological development to ours we haven't even build roads that connect together to a few cities we have no infrastructure nada.

 

[Mr.Stone]

@IslamIsTheAnswer @Shamis @Thegoodshepherd @Mr.Stone

Ok what about the fact that ethiopia is a landlocked nation who heavily depends on the access of Somali ports. If so we can play the political infighting we hold their interests in our hand as well. Eritrea and Djibouti showed them the middle finger now all they have is Somalias ports



Maybe this is an advantage we can exploit to put them in their place if they dare?

Edit:
This also seems farfetched seeing the present day circumstances of Somalia today, but food for thought nonetheless.

We will see man i have feeling even though the odds are against us the odds will be in our favor sooner or later, by the way there is no more putting any one in place sxb since biyoo la'aan noloshoo ma jiirto, i think it's time to settle all old disputes to rest once and for all dagaal is not in the interest of no one especially us we need peace and stability for the few coming centuries amaa a millennium or two to develop and catch up to the rest of the world .

 

[Geeljire]

I was only trying to be more foresighted , we shouldnt always let the present hinder us and define our future circumstance.

 

[Rooble]

Relax the dam will benefit the Somalis in DDSI, inshAllah. and Somalis from Somalia need to increase ties with ethiopia and also benefit from the dam. If not they need to look for desalination plants.

What Somalis in Somalia need to do is partner up with Israel

Israel’s success in developing water desalination projects means that the country is less likely to wage war over water resources, writes Helmi Moussa. Thanks to decades of development in water technologies, Israel can use saltwater to meet its people’s needs without relying on its neighbors.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/business/2012/06/desalination-facilities-in-israe.html#

 

[Shamis]

Rooble do you think they'll continue to move Somalis out of DDSI? They moved tens of thousands out already.

 

[Mr.Stone]

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My bad i was going back and forth between so many tabs waan wareeyre i meant 1.092 billion in 1989

 

[Mr.Stone]

Relax the dam will benefit the Somalis in DDSI, inshAllah. and Somalis from Somalia need to increase ties with ethiopia and also benefit from the dam. If not they need to look for desalination plants.

What Somalis in Somalia need to do is partner up with Israel



http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/business/2012/06/desalination-facilities-in-israe.html#

RoobleAlWaliid Aka SomaliaTooso Abaha La janeey Shalom man like us got that part down anaaga nuguu dhaaf reer Israel.

 

[Rooble]

Rooble do you think they'll continue to move Somalis out of DDSI? They moved tens of thousands out already.

The Woyane government would gladly displace Somalis or any other ethnic for the sake of development.

Another option for the Egyptian authorities is to pursue further development of water desalination plants. Egypt’s current desalination plants operate on a small scale, and primarily service the tourism and industrial sectors. Due to its high costs, however, development of larger additional desalination plants to cater to agricultural and human settlement needs has not yet been exploited.

In the meantime Somalis should partner up with Ethiopia and benefit from the dam and in the near future they should look to invest in desalination plants.

Also there are massive reserves of underground water-supplies in the north.