Ethiopians Have Reached A Point Where They Are Quoting Hadiths To Claim They Are Just

[IKHALIIL]

Link to reddit thread I got this from:

 

[Aiman12]

their failed mou has driven them to madness

 

[NidarNidar]

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Link to reddit thread I got this from:

I seen this dweeb, check out his history.

 

[iley]

nah that guy is a full on troll, some full on blinded ethiopian nationalist

 

[World]

their failed mou has driven them to madness

Narrated from Abi Sukainah One of the Companions:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Let the Abyssinians alone as long as they let you alone, and let the Turks alone as long as they leave you alone.

Sunan Abi Dawud 4302 - Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim) - كتاب الملاحم - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Narrated from Abi Sukainah One of the Companions:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Let the Abyssinians alone as long as they let you alone, and let the Turks alone as long as they leave you alone.

Sunan Abi Dawud 4302 - Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim) - كتاب الملاحم - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Key words: “as long as they let you alone”

I don’t get why Ethiopians are quoting this Hadith against Somalis fighting them because all the conflicts we have had against them were all started by them. As far back as the Walashma-Solomonic wars in the Middle Ages were started by the animosity of the Christian Emperors who ruled underdeveloped regions compared to their wealthier Muslim neighbors. Even in modern times when Menelik was expanding Ethiopia and killing Muslim civilians unprovoked, it was the Somalis who wanted to counterattack and lead a jihad to stop them.

Ethiopia didn’t conquer Galbeed, it was ceded to them by the British who demarcated the borders of Somalia-Ethiopia in the 1940s. We know that most raiding parties sent from Ethiopia to Ogaden ended in complete failure and humiliation.
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Somali Sultans after Abyssinia took Harar were already planning on uniting their forces of over 50,000 men and leading a Jihad into the Highlands to take back Muslim lands but were stopped by the British, French and Italians who embargoed them from importing modern weaponry into the Somali peninsula.

This was from the British consulate of Aden: “The bearer of this message is Abdulah from Harar, a man I have known for some time and in whom one can trust. He assures me that Sultan Osman Mahmud of Ras Hafun (Alula) and Sultan Yusuf Ali of Obbia (Hobyo) have been aiming for a long time to make a large expedition against Harar, they ascertain that in nine days they could be at the frontier of Ogaden and would cross the Ogaden in fifteen. The expedition would take no more than a month from departure to arrival before Harar. The two Sultans assure that all the Somali tribes would agree to join them as they have been urged by the Ogaden tribes and others to march together against Ras Makkonen’s troops.”View attachment 343701

 

[Rayaale]

I seen this dweeb, check out his history.

That guy qaranimo uu dhimo is very weird he posts lots of misinformation

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Key words: “as long as they let you alone”

I don’t get why Ethiopians are quoting this Hadith against Somalis fighting them because all the conflicts we have had against them were all started by them. As far back as the Walashma-Solomonic wars in the Middle Ages were started by the animosity of the Christian Emperors who ruled underdeveloped regions compared to their wealthier Muslim neighbors. Even in modern times when Menelik was expanding Ethiopia and killing Muslim civilians unprovoked, it was the Somalis who wanted to counterattack and lead a jihad to stop them.

Wasnt the the past abyssinians refer to oromos habashi and Somalis and afar and other horn groups not just Ethiopians
Does that means that hadith is also meant to Somalis and others east africans when I think Nabi mohamed said leave abyssinians alone not just habashi

 

[Khaemwaset]

Narrated from Abi Sukainah One of the Companions:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Let the Abyssinians alone as long as they let you alone, and let the Turks alone as long as they leave you alone.

Sunan Abi Dawud 4302 - Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim) - كتاب الملاحم - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

As long as they occupy galbeed they're not leaving us alone. They're squatters in Harar and Jigjiga

 

[Khaemwaset]

Wasnt the the past abyssinians refer to oromos habashi and Somalis and afar and other horn groups not just Ethiopians
Does that means that hadith is also meant to Somalis and others east africans when I think Nabi mohamed said leave abyssinians alone not just habashi

Depends, alot of Arabic sources call the entire horn "Al Habash" Abyssinia.

But there's also the Christian Kingdom of Abyssinia/Axum. Which is what I belive the prophet refers to here.

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Depends, alot of Arabic sources call the entire horn "Al Habash" Abyssinia.

But there's also the Christian Kingdom of Abyssinia/Axum. Which is what I belive the prophet refers to here.

But that kingdom abyssinia is gone long time ago and it doesn't exist anymore

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Wasnt the the past abyssinians refer to oromos habashi and Somalis and afar and other horn groups not just Ethiopians
Does that means that hadith is also meant to Somalis and others east africans when I think Nabi mohamed said leave abyssinians alone not just habashi

Correct, Abyssinians used to refer to not only Habeshis but also Somalis, Galla/Oromo, Sudanese and even Egyptians in rare cases. I’m not sure if Abyssinian in this case refers to Habeshi only but my point still stands.

 

[Khaemwaset]

But that kingdom abyssinia is gone long time ago and it doesn't exist anymore

It wasn't Abyssinia that time. It was Axum. It was called Al Habasha by Arabs but it was only really called Abyssinia during the Zagwe dynasty. Then it changed its name to Ethiopia by Halie Salassie, to link the state to the biblical ethiopia which was Sudan/Nubia in reality.

 

[Idilinaa]

Al-habash was a region, it wasn't referring to modern day Ethiopia in specific. In most usages throughout the islamic period it was at times in refrence to Somali inhabited areas. It could also be plausible that the prophet sent his men to the coast of Somalia or Daklak Island.

I shared a little bit about it earlier in a different thread.

The first hijrah was not Ethiopia, it was either Dakhlak Island off the coast of Eritrea or Zayla Northern Somalia both served as entrepoints to Islam, from which it first disseminated.
They certainly did not go to Axum which was landlocked at the time and seized to exist basically.

This mis-perception whitewashes the reality of medieval Ethiopia which was a crusading feudal fiefdom that hated Islam , heck any sect that was different even as you seen with Falasha. They wouldn't give anyone refuge, as they were even oppressive to their own people.

Ethiopians were religious crusaders, the prophet wouldn't send them there. How would he send them to the people who would destroy the Kaaba?

This also comes from another misperception with the use of ''Habash'' which was a regional name that sometimes even stretched to Egypt, Sudan to Somalia. When medieval Arab geographers and writers employed it , they were not talking about the modern supra-ethnicity ''Habesha'' or modern Ethiopia. They were applying to a broad geography and people, without discerning them.

You can also tell that the prophet was talking about a seperate part of the region called -Al-Habash because not only did they occupy Dakhlak to prevent Ethiopian highlanders access to the red sea until Muslim formations took over that kept it landlocked but he also shared the story of them destroying the Kaba which shows there is deep memory of them being enemies of Islam and an Egyptian author from a book i read recently pretty much summed it up well:

he really hit the nail on the ''envy of Muslims prosperity' and the ''backwardness'' of Ethiopians. This is something i discussed with @Emir of Zayla @Midas @NidarNidar these past few weeks.