Excessive Hotel Building

[NidarNidar]

Since when? I'm pretty sure Burco, Bosaso, Baydhabo, and Kismayo have larger populations.

It's closer to 500,000, tow, meanwhile, Burco population is moving to Hargeisa and Berbera for opportunities.

The hotels are always packed, alongside the restaurants that operate within them.

It has a population of nearly 400.000 according to the UN and international agencies.

Awdal has surpassed the population of 1M, alongside Awbarre, it surpassed Jijiga in population in the projected census, Ethiopians tend to downplay the population in the SR.

 

[Nur_]

They are not only building hotels , this is false. The accommodations are not only aimed at foreigners, they are aimed at transnational Somali travelers and regional investors to inject foreign currency into economy and make use of services.

Somaliland has even built road infrastructure to boost regional trade into Ogaden.

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They built a massive highway that connects Borama to other areas. It's part of series of projects aimed at creating transporation infrastructure to facilitate trade

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I'm sure they're not only building hotels but like I said, this goes for the whole of modern day Somalia not just Somaliland. I used a video from Somaliland/Boroma because that was what caught my eye but some small efforts in one region will not do us good.

Second of all, who are these transnational Somali travellers? Diaspora? I don't understand what you mean. Investment is good and I'm not denying that but I'd want to see more improvement alongside that like anyone else would

 

[Idilinaa]

They are not only building hotels , this is false. The accommodations are not only aimed at foreigners, they are aimed at transnational Somali travelers and regional investors to inject foreign currency into economy and make use of services.

Somaliland has even built road infrastructure to boost regional trade into Ogaden.

Somaliland Embarks On Road Construction To Link Eastern Regions

Somaliland has started an ambitious campaign to build its road infrastructure with the ground breaking for the construction of a new road linking the towns of Wadaama-goo and Buhodle. The road, tha…

somalilandstandard.com

They built a massive highway that connects Borama to other areas. It's part of series of projects aimed at creating transporation infrastructure to facilitate trade

Somaliland: Lowyado-Borama Road Upgrading Phase 1 Project- Statement by Ministry of Finance - SomalilandCurrent.com

The implementation of the construction of the Lawyo-Addo to Borama road project supported by the African Development Bank {AFDB} whose work has gone through different stages is set to start soon. The construction of this road, which is of great importance to us as a nation and as an individual...

www.somalilandcurrent.com

So much of what they are doing is to facilitate economic growth.

I looked at the tiktok account for example the same girl in that video shows they set up agricultural markets in Hargeisa to bring in fresh local produce.


I also looked up the company name. Apparently it is locally sourced produce aimed at boosting local agriculture

It is funded by a venture capitalist firm called Bilow Capital.

But yeah if you look through her Tiktok account she shows a diversity of businesses, it's not just hotel. It's like one video out of the many.

 

[lovelypeaches]

I love borama. I use to stay in the rays hotel back in the days . My favourite town in somaliwayne and my hometown

 

[Nur_]

Nigga private investors can do what ever they want

I know they can and I referenced that fact in my post nacaas

 

[Nur_]

I looked at the tiktok account for example the same girl in that video shows they set up agricultural markets in Hargeisa to bring in fresh local produce.


I also looked up the company name. Apparently it is locally sourced produce aimed at boosting local agriculture
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It is funded by a venture capitalist firm called Bilow Capital.
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But yeah if you look through her Tiktok account she shows a diversity of businesses, it's not just hotel. It's like one video out of the many.

Admittedly I should have researched better. I wanted to reference the general trend of hotel building but it is wrong of me to use any general video. This girl clearly has good intentions.

I wanted to draw attention to the predatory nature of the increasing rise in hotel builds. I think a good number of the people doing this things do not have decent aspirations. They just want to take advantage of Somalia's cheap currency and cost to build a businesses. A lot of these private investors are diaspora born who move like Cadaans in Bali. It's not good to have lots of hotels yet see that investment severely outmatch national investment into the people.

 

[Riftvalley]

Good places to hide second/third wifey

 

[Taintedlove]

My dream in the future is to buy tons of land a build cheap high quality social housing for shanty town locals. My main worry is instability of Somalia and whether they can withold any potential violence but I wanna build it in SL so it's cool.

 

[Burqad]

It has a population of nearly 400.000 according to the UN and international agencies.

Bosaso has 700k

 

[zeilaprime]

I remember a Kenyan working on a hotel, living in Mogadishu, saying the biggest issue is that everything is imported when working on a Somali construction site. Last I checked, Somalia has no concrete manufacturing, no steel manufacturing, no glass production, no woodworking, very little HVAC specialists, etc.

 

[therandomone]

Only thing worse than hotel is a restaurant. What are they trying to show off ? Only Somalis will go there and I rather stay with family than hotel. Somalis need to grow up and realize that to be a successful nation you need real industries

 

[Idilinaa]

Admittedly I should have researched better. I wanted to reference the general trend of hotel building but it is wrong of me to use any general video. This girl clearly has good intentions.

I wanted to draw attention to the predatory nature of the increasing rise in hotel builds. I think a good number of the people doing this things do not have decent aspirations. They just want to take advantage of Somalia's cheap currency and cost to build a businesses. A lot of these private investors are diaspora born who move like Cadaans in Bali. It's not good to have lots of hotels yet see that investment severely outmatch national investment into the people.

There is nothing predatory about it , it's aimed at boosting local economy.

And they do invest in many different industries like i have shown with a tech sector and infrastracture projects. But to do that you need to pull in capital.

Thats why these types of businesses are helpful because Somalis can finance expensive industrial and infrastructure projects in the long term using PPP- Private public partnerships.

 

[EainA2]

That has to be one of the worst resorts ever. It doesn't seem to offer anything amazing. Whatever they have, I can get right here in Europe.

 

[Nur_]

I love borama. I use to stay in the rays hotel back in the days . My favourite town in somaliwayne and my hometown

Mashallah. I hope your homerown prospers.

 

[Nur_]

My dream in the future is to buy tons of land a build cheap high quality social housing for shanty town locals. My main worry is instability of Somalia and whether they can withold any potential violence but I wanna build it in SL so it's cool.

This is what I'm talking about! Even if it's foreign investment, it'd be nice to see things aimed at the locals. Hotels aren't doing as much for the people (Though they provide jobs at the very least). Inshallah your plans are fruitful.

What did you mean by Shanty Town locals? I'm afraid I don't understand. Sorry

 

[Nur_]

Bosaso has 700k

That's a big difference? Where did you get this number?


Bosaso has a lot of yemeni/oromo migrants right? Is it them boosting the numbers? 300k sounds like a lot though and you'd think someone would start registering them.

 

[Nur_]

I remember a Kenyan working on a hotel, living in Mogadishu, saying the biggest issue is that everything is imported when working on a Somali construction site. Last I checked, Somalia has no concrete manufacturing, no steel manufacturing, no glass production, no woodworking, very little HVAC specialists, etc.

That's really shameful. There was a point in time Somalia was near entirely self sufficient according to some articles we read. What we importanted was balanced out by our exports.

This is another issue. All this hotel building but no factories or anything. This is how the west exploits countries like Somalia. We don't have any refineries so we cannot produce our own products. So our valuable resources are sold for dirt cheap to the west (or in our case the middle east) and exported back to us for a greater cost. Building hotels while we're exploited like this is foolish.

 

[Nur_]

There is nothing predatory about it , it's aimed at boosting local economy.

And they do invest in many different industries like i have shown with a tech sector and infrastracture projects. But to do that you need to pull in capital.

Thats why these types of businesses are helpful because Somalis can finance expensive industrial and infrastructure projects in the long term using PPP- Private public partnerships.

I agree that this can definitely be helpful. I think this development is fairly recent so to see how kuch capital in drags in will be a waiting game. You're perspective has definitely made me see things a bit differently.

But I really think Hotels are a bad way to go about it. Somalia has travel warnings that say things like "Write a will before you go". We essentially only have diaspora Somalis who would be willing to go to those hotels and stay there (as well as tourists within Somaliweyne visiting). That's not a big industry. I don't see it generating much money while we have such a poor climate. I hope this will change because I think Hotels are a great idea for us. We have a beautiful coastline, I just don't see it being useful right now.


This is just my own personal opinion but it is a little predatory depending on your intentions. Having grown up in the west, I know many see Somalia as a "cheap" place to buy land and start business. We can see this in other sectors as well. Using westwn currency in Somalia will out price locals for example. There's lots of new development in Mogadishu but how many everyday people can afford to go regularly? It's not aimed at them. The people who live their, their economic stability and wellbeing should be the forefront of the national and private investment.

 

[Nur_]

That has to be one of the worst resorts ever. It doesn't seem to offer anything amazing. Whatever they have, I can get right here in Europe.

It's nice for Somaliland though . But yeah, Europe has very nice resorts but before that we need infrastructure

 

[Idilinaa]

I agree that this can definitely be helpful. I think this development is fairly recent so to see how kuch capital in drags in will be a waiting game. You're perspective has definitely made me see things a bit differently.

But I really think Hotels are a bad way to go about it. Somalia has travel warnings that say things like "Write a will before you go". We essentially only have diaspora Somalis who would be willing to go to those hotels and stay there (as well as tourists within Somaliweyne visiting). That's not a big industry. I don't see it generating much money while we have such a poor climate. I hope this will change because I think Hotels are a great idea for us. We have a beautiful coastline, I just don't see it being useful right now.


This is just my own personal opinion but it is a little predatory depending on your intentions. Having grown up in the west, I know many see Somalia as a "cheap" place to buy land and start business. We can see this in other sectors as well. Using westwn currency in Somalia will out price locals for example. There's lots of new development in Mogadishu but how many everyday people can afford to go regularly? It's not aimed at them. The people who live their, their economic stability and wellbeing should be the forefront of the national and private investment.

There is like two hotels in all of Borama, from what i can tell. It's not that deep.