BREAKING NEWS Fighting in Doolow between FGS & Jubbaland troops. Somali gov accuses Ethiopian troops of 'unprovoked aggression'

[TheLand]

Yes. under siyad barre many unjust crimes were committed during the Northern campaign against snm which I condemn. If u want I can give u my full opinion on the war later. I hope that suffice to answer ur query

No, I asked you if Siad Barre committed war crimes, I didn't ask you if 'war crimes were committed under him'. Stop playing games, you are not clever.

 

[TheLand]

The balance of evidence is that those things happened.
You say SL did the same without any corrobating evidence, no trial nothing. So what is there to discuss? You want a loop hole and whatever even if it went to the Hague you would find something to say.

Didn't you say you were going to leave? If a trial is required then General Morgan isn't guilty of anything, right? Let's see how you try to munaafaq your way out of that.

 

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No they killed the SNA colonel who was leading gurmad from beledhawo. He was killed via mine explosion and two of his guard were injured.

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Looks suspicious that a mine went off in a rural Gedo road.

Just how much control do you think Madoobe exerts onto Gedo?

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

No, I asked you if Siad Barre committed war crimes, I didn't ask you if 'war crimes were committed under him'. Stop playing games, you are not clever.

Are you asking if Siyad Barre directly ordered the attacks against civilians. In that case no, he was not a commanding officer on the field and was not involved in the day to day operations of the army.

What a dumb thing to ask, war crimes are committed under the jurisdiction of the commanding officer of the battalion or brigade. Siyad Barre ordered the SNM to be wiped put. YES did he order General gaani to display captured SNM officers and whip them naked in front of large crowds or any other individual abuses of power? NO

 

[TheLand]

Looks suspicious that a mine went off in a rural Gedo road.

Just how much control do you think Madoobe exerts onto Gedo?

Considering how much MX works with shabaab it’s a stunning accusation. One of shabaab’s biggest preachers in Xamar is/was a well known boon

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Looks suspicious that a mine went off in a rural Gedo road.

Just how much control do you think Madoobe exerts onto Gedo?

The road was cleared from AS couple months back sxb and his car was in the middle of the convoy which means it was a remote controlled mine. (The other cars didn't trigger it) I'm guessing AS have an inside operative which exposed the colonels vehicle and allowed AS soldier to detonate the mine at the right time. Madobe doesn't control gedo but his henchmen do, am just asking if ifs probable he colluded with AS to take out this colonel.

 

[TheLand]

Are you asking if Siyad Barre directly ordered the attacks against civilians. In that case no, he was not a commanding officer on the field and was not involved in the day to day operations of the army.

What a dumb thing to ask, war crimes are committed under the jurisdiction of the commanding officer of the battalion or brigade. Siyad Barre ordered the SNM to be wiped put. YES did he order General gaani to display captured SNM officers and whip them naked in front of large crowds or any other individual abuses of power? NO

There you go, didn’t read anything past ‘no’. He was directly responsible for any and all war crimes that happened you munaafaq. Same with Bashar in Syria. You thought you were being smart with your wordplay but no boon can ever trick me.

 

[TheLand]

The road was cleared from AS couple months back sxb and his car was in the middle of the convoy which means it was a remote controlled mine. (The other cars didn't trigger it) I'm guessing AS have an inside operative which exposed the colonels vehicle and allowed AS soldier to detonate the mine at the right time. Madobe doesn't control gedo but his henchmen do, am just asking if ifs probable he colluded with AS to take out this colonel.

Who are these so called ‘henchmen’ in Gedo? They are MX horgals right? So why blame Madoobe for what your uncles do?

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

directly responsible for any and all war crimes that happened you munaafaq. Same with Bashar in Syria

Can u prove barre directly ordered top down commands to attack civilians. Or are u accusing him because the buck stops at his desk?

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Who are these so called ‘henchmen’ in Gedo? They are MX horgals right? So why blame Madoobe for what your uncles do?

They're madobe affiliates who are on his payroll and are allies with him and serve as an extension of him in gedo. By this logic in our other conversation siyad shouldn't be responsible for the crimes of officer sundrr his MOD right because he cannot be blamed for what they do?

 

[TheLand]

Can u prove barre directly ordered top down commands to attack civilians. Or are u accusing him because the buck stops at his desk?

Interesting word choice. Do you acknowledge the buck stops at his desk? If Tuke committed war crimes what did Barre do about it? Did he arrest him or sanction him in some way? Obviously not. You are ridiculous.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

Weren't you celebrating Tukeh's war crimes?

It gets really annoying when people start acting righteous for qabyalad purposes.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Didn't you say you were going to leave? If a trial is required then General Morgan isn't guilty of anything, right? Let's see how you try to munaafaq your way out of that.

Interesting word choice. Do you acknowledge the buck stops at his desk? If Tuke committed war crimes what did Barre do about it? Did he arrest him or sanction him in some way? Obviously not. You are ridiculous.

 

[TheLand]

They're madobe affiliates who are on his payroll and are allies with him and serve as an extension of him in gedo. By this logic in our other conversation siyad shouldn't be responsible for the crimes of officer sundrr his MOD right because he cannot be blamed for what they do?

Siyaad was much more powerful with an actual army under his command not a ragtag militia. Siyad was president and had absolute control he wasnt a regional governor(stretch) who controls a city state. How can you compare the two? Siyad even had warplanes

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Interesting word choice. Do you acknowledge the buck stops at his desk? If Tuke committed war crimes what did Barre do about it? Did he arrest him or sanction him in some way? Obviously not. You are ridiculous.

Barre atp in time was not in a postion to sanction or arrest any army commanders especially not ones with thousands of troops under their command who could just as easily turn on him a prime example being the formation of ogaden SPM. I don't even believe he was fully in control of Somalia but rather his close family, his wife, children and associates ruled throught his name. If u know history u would know a lot about mama khadija

 

[TheLand]

You make zero sense. Here come the nonsensical gifs again. That’s when you know you are done.

 

[TheLand]

Barre atp in time was not in a postion to sanction or arrest any army commanders especially not ones with thousands of troops under their command who could just as easily turn on him a prime example being the formation of ogaden SPM. I don't even believe he was fully in control of Somalia but rather his close family, his wife, children and associates ruled throught his name. If u know history u would know a lot about mama khadija

Nigga started talking about mama Khadija and shit. Bro grow up. This is pathetic.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Nigga started talking about mama Khadija and shit. Bro grow up. This is pathetic.

This is where ur limited knowledge of somali history ends. Read clan cleansing in Somalia. The ruinous legacy of 1991, very informative book

 

[TheLand]

This is where ur limited knowledge of somali history ends. Read clan cleansing in Somalia. The ruinous legacy of 1991, very informative book

You are trying to pin this on mama khadija instead of the military dictator who ruled Somalia with an iron fist for two decades bruh. Are u serious? MX is not sending their best.

 

[Hilmaam]