Deni and madobe have lost face not only internally among Somalis but also from foreign actors.
Just imagine being summoned by force to HAG city Mogadishu the same city they refused two months ago to come, and the summoning is all about enforcing the deals made in Samareeb under President Qoor qoors leadership.
So far President Qoor qoor ain't worried, he is already being red carpeted as VIP in Djibouti as the man that saved Somalia from jebertis shenanigans.
He showing real leadership and as positioned himself as a future president.
I think deep down the reason Ahmed madobe wanted to clear federal troops from gedo is so that JB can become a con-federate state like PL & SL as well as provide Kenya with a save mean to influence the Somalia.
I guess like the people of Mogadishu, SWS, Galmudug, khaatumo,SSC & awdal the Gedo people don’t believe in splitting up Somalia.
Banaadir + konfuur galbeed + Galmudug + khaatumo + SSC + Awdal
Vs
SL +kismaayo + PL
It’s that’s simple.
Your almost right, but deep down SSC, Awdal and Gedo don't want Central authority like Galmudug, HS, and KG but what they want is a safe Haven from those that rule them, SSC and Awdal are fighting against Isaaq Hegemony and while Gedo is fighting against the totalitarian Kablalax regime which is hard on ruling all of Jubaland with iron fist.
Gedo should just simply secede from Kismaayo yoke before it's too late.
Step by step till we pull the life support out of the failed colonial project. Next step is confederationI agree I think they want legitimate federal system which most Somalis don’t mind.
The people I listed want a legitimate end of the Somali state.
If you asked a lander or a PIM person would you want independence what would they say ?
I do think kismayo/madobe supporters are not on the same page yet with independence but am sure in a couple of years they would be.
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You look at this venn graph and tell me if these “federal” Somalis will ever accept that.
Step by step till we pull the life support out of the failed colonial project. Next step is confederation
Gedo has already seceded thats why Madoobe is crying.Your almost right, but deep down SSC, Awdal and Gedo don't want Central authority like Galmudug, HS, and KG but what they want is a safe Haven from those that rule them, SSC and Awdal are fighting against Isaaq Hegemony and while Gedo is fighting against the totalitarian Kablalax regime which is hard on ruling all of Jubaland with iron fist.
Gedo should just simply secede from Kismaayo yoke before it's too late.
Gedo shares the same value us HAG then the Kablalaxs, if I were MX I would have fought tooth and nail to JOIN HAGs and dominate Jubaland through or with them.Gedo has already seceded thats why Madoobe is crying.
Yes bro 100% correct, and also ideology and certain different culture among subclans exist too, by example look at MX in Galmudug they are fraction of 1/10 to the MX in Jubaland and yet the MXs in Galmudug are thriving in Political posts, Peace in their deegaans and this is even before Hobyo is built, so far Galmudug an HG dominated region has given hand and leg to MX to make them feel Part of Galmudug, HG may have certain negativity around but when it comes to sharing power and money they are top notch.I agree I think they want legitimate federal system which most Somalis don’t mind.
The people I listed want a legitimate end of the Somali state.
If you asked a lander or a PIM person would you want independence what would they say ?
I do think kismayo/madobe supporters are not on the same page yet with independence but am sure in a couple of years they would be.
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You look at this venn graph and tell me if these “federal” Somalis will ever accept that.
Absolutely sxb, Qoor Qoor even extended a hand to Wagardhac and said come back to Gelinsoor you guys have shown great state building and a MX is very much feels honoured and equal in Galmudug unlike JL where Madoobe and Kab iyo Lax seeks our destruction. Look at the honour of VP Of Galmudug.Gedo shares the same value us HAG then the Kablalaxs, if I were MX I would have fought tooth and nail to JOIN HAGs and dominate Jubaland through or with them.
HAG waa dad aaminsan live and let live and let's eat together, the most roughest and extreme moryaan anti jebertis are HG and if MX can live easily with them then surely the other HAGs are easier to live with.
MX always thrived with HAGs then with their kins Jebertis.
Absolutely sxb, Qoor Qoor even extended a hand to Wagardhac and said come back to Gelinsoor you guys have shown great state building and a MX is very much feels honoured and equal in Galmudug unlike JL where Madoobe and Kab iyo Lax seeks our destruction. Look at the honour of VP Of Galmudug.
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Hate to break it to you but those cities and land will not be coming back any time soon, you have to be on drugs to believe HG will return lands they robbed half a decade ago.
Take it back by force or forget about it and wait for the judgement day.
Absolutely sxb, Qoor Qoor even extended a hand to Wagardhac and said come back to Gelinsoor you guys have shown great state building and a MX is very much feels honoured and equal in Galmudug unlike JL where Madoobe and Kab iyo Lax seeks our destruction. Look at the honour of VP Of Galmudug.
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Mudane I too was to harsh on HG and Hawiye in general, Alxamdullilah Galmudug and xamar will always be our home. Let the desert rats seethe in rage at our unityMasha'Allah Mudane President Cali Ciid is showing potential as future SFG President inshAllahi.
I would rate you and @MrDeeni1 but unfortunately I can't the desert cuqdadlows reer pintilanders disabled my ratings , as if care.
Anyway bro, HG have long decided to build and live together with other Qabiils in peace, a pact made during our Hobyo conferences.
This lands belong to Allah and we will all return to him eventually so why hate and fight among ourselves as Muslim, instead let's pray, work and built an environment where we and our children generation will live for the better.
Walahi I used to be an Prick before this year, alhamdulilahi Allah has opened my eyes, so Thank you Mudane @TekNiKo for the dulqaad :up:
Mudane I too was to harsh on HG and Hawiye in general, Alxamdullilah Galmudug and xamar will always be our home. Let the desert rats seethe in rage at our unity
Did you even read this nobody argues over the federal powers everyone argues over the right to Conduct elections, establish local government, and control public education. All of those were violated by the fedI agree I think they want legitimate federal system which most Somalis don’t mind.
The people I listed want a legitimate end of the Somali state.
If you asked a lander or a PIM person would you want independence what would they say ?
I do think kismayo/madobe supporters are not on the same page yet with independence but am sure in a couple of years they would be.
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You look at this venn graph and tell me if these “federal” Somalis will ever accept that.