Haplogroup T?

[Wabari]

Hello everyone,
A friend recently encouraged me to take a DNA test, and since this trend has been growing among Somalis, I decided to give it a try. My results came back 100% Somali, which was no surprise, but my haplogroup caught my attention—it doesn’t seem to be native to the Horn of Africa, or at least, it’s not commonly found here. I’ve tried researching it, but there’s very little information available. I’m curious to learn more about its origins and how it might have made its way to the Horn. If anyone has any insights I wanna hear your thoughts!

 

[Aurelian]

Hello everyone,
A friend recently encouraged me to take a DNA test, and since this trend has been growing among Somalis, I decided to give it a try. My results came back 100% Somali, which was no surprise, but my haplogroup caught my attention—it doesn’t seem to be native to the Horn of Africa, or at least, it’s not commonly found here. I’ve tried researching it, but there’s very little information available. I’m curious to learn more about its origins and how it might have made its way to the Horn. If anyone has any insights I wanna hear your thoughts!

T is commonly found among Isaaq and Issa, basically north west regions of Somaliweyne. So, yours is the 2nd most common haplogroup among Somalis. The T haplogroup entered the horn of Africa, as some suggest, 2000-2400 years ago. Somali language wasn't yet formed at that time, as some expert say (2000-1700 years ago).

 

[Wabari]

T is commonly found among Isaaq and Issa, basically north west regions of Somaliweyne. So, yours is the 2nd most common haplogroup among Somalis. The T haplogroup entered the horn of Africa, as some suggest, 2000-2400 years ago. Somali language wasn't yet formed at that time, as some expert say (2000-1700 years ago).

Well that explains why we are Lugo Basto as well thanks saxib

 

[NidarNidar]

Hello everyone,
A friend recently encouraged me to take a DNA test, and since this trend has been growing among Somalis, I decided to give it a try. My results came back 100% Somali, which was no surprise, but my haplogroup caught my attention—it doesn’t seem to be native to the Horn of Africa, or at least, it’s not commonly found here. I’ve tried researching it, but there’s very little information available. I’m curious to learn more about its origins and how it might have made its way to the Horn. If anyone has any insights I wanna hear your thoughts!

It's most common with Dir but usually NW area, what your clan? also can be found with Rahanweyn.

 

[Wabari]

It's most common with Dir but usually NW area, what your clan? also can be found with Rahanweyn.

I am Surre Salban Cabdalle

 

[Ashraf]

Quick question, Is T Semitic or Cushitic?

 

[Rayaale]

I am Surre Salban Cabdalle

Surre are Mahe Dir, you are the fourth surre I’ve seen with this haplogroup

 

[Maakhri2024]

Somali language wasn't yet formed at that time, as some expert say ( 2000 - 1700 years ago).

Can you name these experts?

What evidence supports this claim?

 

[Wabari]

Surre are Mahe Dir, you are the fourth surre I’ve seen with this haplogroup

Yes brother I have been told by my brother who is into this stuff and knows a lot of the clan who did this so far he says we all seem to have this Haplogroup interesting indeed

 

[Maakhri2024]

Hello everyone,
A friend recently encouraged me to take a DNA test, and since this trend has been growing among Somalis, I decided to give it a try. My results came back 100% Somali, which was no surprise, but my haplogroup caught my attention—it doesn’t seem to be native to the Horn of Africa, or at least, it’s not commonly found here. I’ve tried researching it, but there’s very little information available. I’m curious to learn more about its origins and how it might have made its way to the Horn. If anyone has any insights I wanna hear your thoughts!

You should have searched the forum or other sites that deal with DNA instead of writing your life story.
There are dozens of posts on the topic you are looking for.
Obviously, you have to search before you ask.
Don't be lazy .

 

[Wabari]

You should have searched the forum or other sites that deal with DNA instead of writing your life story.
There are dozens of posts on the topic you are looking for.
Obviously, you have to search before you ask.
Don't be lazy .

What makes you think I didn’t? This is a Somali forum. I came here to see if there are other people with the same haplogroup or individuals more knowledgeable about this stuff than me. Like I said, if you have something of value to share, then do it—but you’re assuming too much, buddy. Also, if you think that’s a life story, your life must be very boring.

 

[Aurelian]

Can you name these experts?

What evidence supports this claim?

It was from a Somali linguist, I swear to God I don't have his name, because it was few years ago when he said. Anyway I will go research and present what i find

 

[Maakhri2024]

It was from a Somali linguist, I swear to God I don't have his name, because it was few years ago when he said. Anyway I will go research and present what i find

What convinced you and made you believe him (the expert you are talking about) that the Somali language is less than two thousand years old?

 

[Rayaale]

Yes brother I have been told by my brother who is into this stuff and knows a lot of the clan who did this so far he says we all seem to have this Haplogroup interesting indeed

I’ve read somewhere surre came to central Somalia from either Somaliland or Galbeed in the 1300-1400s

 

[NidarNidar]

Quick question, Is T Semitic or Cushitic?

Its Semetic atleast the Dir variant, there are older other subclades that crossed into the Sinai and made its way with the South Cushites all the way to Tanzania.

 

[NidarNidar]

I’ve read somewhere surre came to central Somalia from either Somaliland or Galbeed in the 1300-1400s

They left Sanaag, around 12 or 13th century, they were the earliest to split off from what I can see, will need to get more samples to get a proper picture.

 

[Rayaale]

They left Sanaag, around 12 or 13th century, they were the earliest to split off from what I can see, will need to get more samples to get a proper picture.

There’s five of them on y from different subs,I think that’s enough of samples

 

[NidarNidar]

There’s five of them on y from different subs,I think that’s enough of samples

Now we need more Madawayne dir samples, we have one but they are predominately T, and we need more E-V32 Dir like the Gadsan on yfull.

 

[Rayaale]

Now we need more Madawayne dir samples, we have one but they are predominately T, and we need more E-V32 Dir like the Gadsan on yfull.

What about biimal, have you seen any samples from them

 

[NidarNidar]

What about biimal, have you seen any samples from them

I know Gadsen are primarily E-V32 even the ones that live next to Isaaq in the Haud, I've seen a few Biimaal who are T but you'll find E-V32 amongst them too, need more tested, I've found a T Jaarso and Nole as well, until they take a Big Y we can't tell if it's the Sudanese T or the Dir variant.