Thank you for these ill have a read through
Harar is named after a Somali tree
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Here is the SomaliSpot thread I could not find yesterday, Challenge: Name me 3 positive things Siyaad Barre has done.
It was an interesting thread with very interesting for and against points being raised in regards to Siad Barre.
In post #36, the thread creator, Periplus, answers a question with regards to finding unbiased historical writings and records on the Barre era:
Safirka: An American Envoy by Peter S. Bridges
In hindsight, this book, looks to be far more promising, since its author was directly dealing with Barre and his regime.
Here is the SomaliSpot thread I could not find yesterday, Challenge: Name me 3 positive things Siyaad Barre has done.
It was an interesting thread with very interesting for and against points being raised in regards to Siad Barre.
In post #36, the thread creator, Periplus, answers a question with regards to finding unbiased historical writings and records on the Barre era:
Safirka: An American Envoy by Peter S. Bridges
In hindsight, this book, looks to be far more promising, since its author was directly dealing with Barre and his regime.
That's actually a great idea. To look through US reports **At the time** would give us a clearer image of Barre and Somalia at the time jn general than the books and what is said about him all these years later.
Emir of Zayla
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We really gotta ask why Ethiopian trolls are editing Somali related articles on wiki and why do they have such immunity even when they’ve gotten reported multiple times. Editors like Magherbin have been doing this for over ten years now and he’s been blocking off Somali editors from correcting his Ethiopianist agenda.
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I'm currently in an edit war and will probably get banned of wiki for "original research" This man deletes all my work within 10 minutes or less
Emir of Zayla
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We really do need to find a way to stop this type of stuff from happening. I’ve seen it before and even reported them myself.
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@Khaemwaset
For this kind of situation, I would try to familiarise myself with the culture and politics of Wikipedia.
Like any organised publicly sourced effort, there are conventions and precedents that are malleable, unlike the organisations rules. There is a whole industry on this, its how celebrities and public figures control and influence their pages
its how groups like the ADL got away with printing outright fabricated lies for so long before finally being called out by the internal Wikipedia team, ie Wikipedia now labels the top Jewish civil rights group as an unreliable source.
I suspect its a long and arduous game though, and one where you will not be engaging in much of what you love about this process in the first place, but its a pathway and if this is your passion I would say to search communities of where such people hang out, how the public effort for Wikipedia editorial is organised etc etc.
Personally I would not recommend it. There is a reason why only the worst cretins become reddit mods, twitter jannies etc etc. Perhaps, I would think, its high time to start writting a book.
For this kind of situation, I would try to familiarise myself with the culture and politics of Wikipedia.
Like any organised publicly sourced effort, there are conventions and precedents that are malleable, unlike the organisations rules. There is a whole industry on this, its how celebrities and public figures control and influence their pages
its how groups like the ADL got away with printing outright fabricated lies for so long before finally being called out by the internal Wikipedia team, ie Wikipedia now labels the top Jewish civil rights group as an unreliable source.
I suspect its a long and arduous game though, and one where you will not be engaging in much of what you love about this process in the first place, but its a pathway and if this is your passion I would say to search communities of where such people hang out, how the public effort for Wikipedia editorial is organised etc etc.
Personally I would not recommend it. There is a reason why only the worst cretins become reddit mods, twitter jannies etc etc. Perhaps, I would think, its high time to start writting a book.
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Keep in mind he probably lives with his mom at the ripe age of 42 and only wears boxers, edit it at different tz and see how quick the response is.
Geyi is land or country in somali I believe; geyiga somaliyeed
Chatgpt has killed it already.
I fucking knew it and he re edited it back in 10 Minutes flat this bastard has no life.
Yeah writing a book is my only option, I'm currently being targeted by two Ethiopians in America who are doing an edit war with me. Within 10 minuted of me putting my writing up they remove it. But since one of them had been on 9 years and is high ranking I risk getting banned
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Yeah he tried that with me last night and dropped some messages in thr talk section. Instead of crashing out and getting banned I just left Wiki. I'll see what I can do with that site but for now I'll focus on writing Somali history off wiki. Such as academic works inshallah
Waste of time, the board of editors looks like this, best research and release a book.
@Khaemwaset
Dont let these names give you a narrow impression, it has a wide scope and is particularly resilient against the kind of issues you experienced on there. Slowly you could build a readership, who could even monetarily support your work.
While you are at it, consider platforms like Substack and Patreon (feel free to research alternative too), many journalist, authors and artists (Painters, Sculptors) use Substack as a front page and use it to engage with their readership. There are fairly respectable people on there such as Grenwald, Finklestein, Mohamed El-Doufani and so on.
Dont let these names give you a narrow impression, it has a wide scope and is particularly resilient against the kind of issues you experienced on there. Slowly you could build a readership, who could even monetarily support your work.
Yeah sxb I've made an article on Subtack about Punt and proving jt was Somali a while back but now I'm free I'll go back to my page and continue making more articles on Somali history. Eventually I'll get better in my skills and be able to create academic works inshallah
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