Huge World Bank poverty survey

[Yonis]

Mashallah.

Welcome back

 

[Abdalla]

@Ferrari please join us.

 

[sanger]

@Inquisitive_ thoughts?

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Was looking over the paper again and figured out the annual income per capita:

Mogadishu: $590
Northeast: $896
Northwest: $640

 

[Abdalla]

This thread deserves to be made a sticky @Duchess @Bohol

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

@Abdalla the funny thing is that you would expect a place like Mogadishu to have a lot of inequality, but to also have a better off upper class compared to the Northeast. The Northeast can be more equal, but you would expect its upper class to be poorer than those of Mogadishu, the results point in the opposite direction.
Average annual income of top 20% in:

Mogadishu $1,306
Northeast $1,789
Northwest $1,332

 

[waraabe]

The provinces in the red Sool, Togdheer and Sanaag are where the craziest and proudest nomadic northern clans are from, namely the Habar Yoonis, Habar Jeclo and Dhulbahante. It's sad to see that they've been humbled by the droughts, and the clans that they would tease for being soft urbanites or petty farmers or fisherman, like the Habar Awal, Gadabuursi and Majeerteen, are now doing much better than them.

HA has always been doing better than those clans, its not a new phenomena

 

[Abdalla]

@Abdalla the funny thing is that you would expect a place like Mogadishu to have a lot of inequality, but to also have a better off upper class compared to the Northeast. The Northeast can be more equal, but you would expect its upper class to be poorer than those of Mogadishu, the results point in the opposite direction.
Average annual income of top 20% in:

Mogadishu $1,306
Northeast $1,789
Northwest $1,332

Northeast is outperforming the rest of the country in every aspect with a 40-50% margin.

 

[Coulombs law]

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No need to get emotional in a sanctuary development thread

 

[Sophisticate]

Northeast is outperforming the rest of the country in every aspect with a 40-50% margin.

I have an Ugas but you can be a Boqor in my virtual harem. Think about it.
@Starscream will be there too. I'm looking for age diversity plus he's Reer Garaad.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Northeast is outperforming the rest of the country in every aspect with a 40-50% margin.

I am thinking about putting the data through an HDI calculator and figuring out the numbers for the regions. That would be very interesting.

The World Bank is going to do this same excersise again this year or the next, so we should know if current results hold. I want to know if the gap is shrinking or growing.

 

[Abdalla]

I have an Ugas but you can be a Boqor in my virtual harem. Think about it.
@Starscream will be there too. I'm looking for age diversity plus he's Reer Garaad.

I knew this new revelation would attract women. We can be modern day Darood and Doonbiro

 

[Sophisticate]

I knew this new revelation would attract women. We can be modern day Darood and Doonbiro
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If you are A-rab I have to decline. I maybe a dime but I won't give a waist-high dhegocase my time.

 

[Abdalla]

If you are A-rab I have to decline. I maybe a dime but I won't give a waist-high dhegocase my time.

No, I meant we can rehearse the story line. Our version will have a twist, unlike Darood I won't be mounting a tree

 

[Abdalla]

I am thinking about putting the data through an HDI calculator and figuring out the numbers for the regions. That would be very interesting.

The World Bank is going to do this same excersise again this year or the next, so we should know if current results hold. I want to know if the gap is shrinking or growing.

I really doubt they will do a follow up of a survey of this magnitude.

In order to do a HDI calculation you need indicators such as life expectancy, years of schooling etc etc. Those indicators are not expressed in this report, however you can find it on other databases. Those databases are not up to date though, at least for Somalia

I find it more interesting if the Puntland government did this kind of survey and see whether the results hold. I mean they don't have to do the complex calculations, all they need is collect the data by means of questionnaires and outsource the calculations to the WB. But they are too lazy and lack initiative.

 

[Arma]

This proves that, PL has something that other Somali Admins in the Horn do not: Human Resources. While others boast about, their tropical environment, we'll continue to prosper.

 

[Arma]

May Allah SWT, bless and grant Abdullahi Yusuf, Janatul Fardaous. Without him, Puntland would not exist.

 

[Sophisticate]

No, I meant we can rehearse the storyline. Our version will have a twist, unlike Darood I won't be mounting a tree

I can't blame you for the fetish. My Canbabuur brings all the boys to the yard.
But something tells me you're avarice with an appetite for plural marriage.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I really doubt they will do a follow up of a survey of this magnitude.

In order to do a HDI calculation you need indicators such as life expectancy, years of schooling etc etc. Those indicators are not expressed in this report, however you can find it on other databases. Those databases are not up to date though, at least for Somalia

I find it more interesting if the Puntland government did this kind of survey and see whether the results hold. I mean they don't have to do the complex calculations, all they need is collect the data by means of questionnaires and outsource the calculations to the WB. But they are too lazy and lack initiative.

They say they will do another survey this past summer on page 7. They are probably going through the data now. This will be for all gobols except Middle Juba.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

This proves that, PL has something that other Somali Admins in the Horn do not: Human Resources. While others boast about, their tropical environment, we'll continue to prosper.

There will be much more improvement in the next few years
1- We have a many local agencies such as Puntland Agency For Social Welfare which was founded in 2009 and other local institutions who do vocational education for young PLers.
2- Ministries such as Health, Education, Family Affairs are always held by technocrats or generally educated diaspora. For example, the current interior minister in the Mogadishu government is Juxa who was the education minister in Puntland. Here's a video from 2013.