Non Hawiye can’t even fill up one district of Mogadishu. It’s outskirts is also completely Hawiye. I also won’t use Mogadishu to proof Hawiye’s numbers inside Somalia. I would have taken into consideration that there are others in Mogadishu that screw the true hawiye numbers Unlike your friend who tried to say that DDS is 50% Ogaden
Non Hawiye can’t even fill up one district of Mogadishu. It’s outskirts is also completely Hawiye. I also won’t use Mogadishu to proof Hawiye’s numbers inside Somalia. I would have taken into consideration that there are others in Mogadishu that screw the true hawiye numbers Unlike your friend who tried to say that DDS is 50% Ogaden
The region has historically been called “Ogadenia” for a reason. The Ogaden are undoubtedly the largest clan in Kilinka 5.I asked for the source regarding the density map I showed earlier. The one you showed and the one I showed are showing the same thing. Dir, Hawiye and Isaaq territories are the dense areas. One of your fellow Darood kinsmen made us believe that DDS is 50% Ogaden alone
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I don't disagree, but at the same time it has a basis around the clans existence there. Just as a MX became the Mayor of Qoraxey because they do exist there, a Gurre from Gura-dhamoole wouldn't obtain a position in Jigjiga because they don't exist there.
Xamar won't be seeing fair 1M1V elections for the foreseeable future, but Jigjiga could possibly go through with 1M1V elections before it.
I saw a source that said 30% of Jijiga is Amhara. Does that sound true or bs?Xamar won't be seeing fair 1M1V elections for the foreseeable future, but Jigjiga could possibly go through with 1M1V elections before it.
It'll put this argument to rest, but at the same time it would further jeopardize the demographics of the city due to the large non-Somali and specifically Amhara population who would want a stake as they have claimed a stake in local industries/jobs
I mentioned the non Somali population earlier but they were telling me off. You have guys like @attash that believes DDS is over 60% Darood while Ogaden alone is 50%Xamar won't be seeing fair 1M1V elections for the foreseeable future, but Jigjiga could possibly go through with 1M1V elections before it.
It'll put this argument to rest, but at the same time it would jeopardize the demographics of the city due to the large non-Somali and specifically Amhara population who would want a stake as they have claimed a stake in local industries/jobs
. The Han Chinese farmer occupy only the eastern half of China while the Turkic nomads occupy the western and northern half. The Han are 1.5 Billion while the Turkic and Mongolic people are similar in size as the Somalis
There's the Hawd and [Reserved area], which was not referred to as "Ogadenia" until recently. And if I recall correctly, Sitti was not either.The region has historically been called “Ogadenia” for a reason. The Ogaden are undoubtedly the largest clan in Kilinka 5.
“The front’s major support comes from the Ogaadeeni clan, estimated at between 40 to 50% of the Somali region’s population (Tobaias Hagmann, 2014).”
Somali Regionሱማሌ ክልል - Ethiopia Peace Observatory
Again, this doesn’t even take into account the number of Harti, Marehan, and other Darod subs that live there. When you add them all up, the Darod make up at least a 60% majority.
Xamar won't be seeing fair 1M1V elections for the foreseeable future, but Jigjiga could possibly go through with 1M1V elections before it.
It'll put this argument to rest, but at the same time it would further jeopardize the demographics of the city due to the large non-Somali and specifically Amhara population who would want a stake as they have claimed a stake in local industries/jobs
Oromada ka xanibtay.
Lol you have literally brought zero references the numbers dont lie east hararghe has like 0.5% Hawiye population. Its not a coincidence you and the Gadabursi above scramble for population from Jaarso Jinacsan Babile etc
Representation is your argument? From that very same 2021 The mayor was Jidwaaq, the ku xigeen was Jidwaaq, the head of security was again Jidwaaq, the head of that same council was Jidwaaq, the councils supermajority according to you is 16/22 Jidwaaq, the treasurer was jidwaaq… I can keep going, how much did you say Gadabursi got again?
Again if you seriously believe the Hawiye are the least tribalist, then you are a delusional person who simply can't be argued with. There's a reason why the Hawiye majority regions are the most violent parts of Somalia.
I think on a social aspect especially in the diaspora. Isaaq teach their kids qabyaalad the most followed by Darood especially northern harti. Northern Somalis in general are more tribalistic than the south irrespective of clan. South includes MX/OG for example
We don't scramble for population from Jinacsani nor Babile. That's just a bonus. Us Gadabursi alone are well comfortable with the majority sedentary and exponentially growing population on our land.Lol you have literally brought zero references the numbers dont lie east hararghe has like 0.5% Hawiye population. Its not a coincidence you and the Gadabursi above scramble for population from Jaarso Jinacsan Babile etc
You are so langaab you have to do a confederation of all east african ethnicities/clans to compete and still fall short.
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Representation is your argument? From that very same 2021 The mayor was Jidwaaq, the ku xigeen was Jidwaaq, the head of security was again Jidwaaq, the head of that same council was Jidwaaq, the councils supermajority according to you is 16/22 Jidwaaq, the treasurer was jidwaaq… I can keep going, how much did you say Gadabursi got again?
Perhaps, but you would have to explain the north has seen a lot less violence than the south since '91.
The Dhulbahante have welcomed Fiqishini in their lands for centuries. As for the Darod living in Xamar, most of that time, Xamar was controlled by foreigners or controlled by the Darod themselves.
