Ideal Presidential candidates?

[berberaboy66]

What are the current options? If it’s the usual, aka Deni, Farmaajo, HSM, Sharif, then we are finished, and I’m tuning out of Somali politics for the foreseeable future. I need someone from the corporate diaspora to take one for the team and run for the presidency. There are multiple individuals in their late 30s who have highly successful careers in the US or UK. We deserve a president that’s an alumini from Cambridge or some Ivy League school.

I’m not sure tbh. If I remember correctly Gaas had a degree at Harvard and was nothing special. Bihi Egeh has a Masters from Oxford and he ain’t moving the needle in Xamar either.

Most of the best politicians today are locals that stayed. Best case scenario are rich locals, lots of diaspora with degrees go back home, they don’t understand regional/village politics and nobody knows who they are. That’s important for building campaigns.

The difference in post-colonial era politicians and the ones now are that they grew up in Somalia, left to get degrees and came back. So they were only out of the country for max 10 years. The diaspora have been out for over 20+

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

you just don’t get it man

You are probably right, see if you could explain it to me as if a 6 year old, woman.

 

[hayran]

You are probably right, see if you could explain it to me as if a 6 year old, woman.

in short, somalis need and deserve to be ruled by said despotic psychopath.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

in short, somalis need and deserve to be ruled by said despotic psychopath.

why?

 

[Farsi]

in short, somalis need and deserve to be ruled by said despotic psychopath.

One dictator leaves, another enters. Economic crisis and civil unrest ensue, and everyone reminisces about the first dictator. Then, another dictator enters, continuing the never-ending cycle. Third World copium

 

[TheLand]

I’m not sure tbh. If I remember correctly Gaas had a degree at Harvard and was nothing special. Bihi Egeh has a Masters from Oxford and he ain’t moving the needle in Xamar either.

Most of the best politicians today are locals that stayed. Best case scenario are rich locals, lots of diaspora with degrees go back home, they don’t understand regional/village politics and nobody knows who they are. That’s important for building campaigns.

The difference in post-colonial era politicians and the ones now are that they grew up in Somalia, left to get degrees and came back. So they were only out of the country for max 10 years. The diaspora have been out for over 20+

Those degrees mean nothing. They are in politics and not stem lol. I could get you into the Harvard gov program right now. Won’t mean jack.

 

[Dooyo]

There’s a couple of young(er) politicians in Somaliland that have the virility and cod karsanaan missing in every other region of Somalia.

Barkhad Batuun, Maxamed Abiib, Mayor Abdikarim Mooge, Ahmed Khaliif to name a few. These men have distinguished themselves from all the salary/public funds guzzling, pot bellied ogres that sit and do nothing in Somali parliaments. They have proven that they’re capable of rousing the masses into action, and at the very least, evoke positive or negative reactions in the response to the shit they say.

Controversial politicians are preferable to those that quietly pocket their $5000/month salary while lounging in luxury hotel in Nairobi, Dubai or Ankara.

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[Aseer]

We will just have to wait, and if nobody steps up I will become the last resort.

 

[hayran]

One dictator leaves, another enters. Economic crisis and civil unrest ensue, and everyone reminisces about the first dictator. Then, another dictator enters, continuing the never-ending cycle. Third World copium

An effective autocrat won't let "economic crisis" happen, which nullifies any chance of mass uprising. The masses are to be neutered either by will or force. Autocracy works if you simply do it right, we're talking about the 'ideal' here which is pretty much a fantasy.

This is how humans have governed themselves for millenia, so even if it doesn't work in the short term, it long term effect is always a civilizing one at the end of the day. This is the kind of thing that has been absent in the Somali hinterland.

 

[Sup]

Are there any candidates that could feasibly win the next (s)election that would actually make serious progress?

I was always a fan of professor Ahmed Ismail Samatar. When he last ran for the presidency, I was quite hopeful he would win, unfortunately that wasn’t the case.

 

[Jungle]

Are there any candidates that could feasibly win the next (s)election that would actually make serious progress?

Thing is you and many like you portray yourselves as wadanis or people that are neutral but you're not

What do you consider progress? A different president every term where the newly elected wipes everything and anything related to the previous regime whether good or bad?

You and @Galool Same people my guess hormud ku qanac

 

[reer]

Thing is you and many like you portray yourselves as wadanis or people that are neutral but you're not

What do you consider progress? A different president every term where the newly elected wipes everything and anything related to the previous regime whether good or bad?

You and @Galool Same people my guess hormud ku qanac

i think the presidents lose abouta. year of presidency due to election campaigns and wiping away what the previous guy did. so we essentially have 3 years of rule. you cant have 3 different governments in 9 years its just too unstable.

 

[Jungle]

i think the presidents lose abouta. year of presidency due to election campaigns and wiping away what the previous guy did. so we essentially have 3 years of rule. you cant have 3 different governments in 9 years its just too unstable.

HSM will win a second consecutive term sxb

 

[Devilsadvocate]

HSM will win a second consecutive term sxb

He needs to retire.

 

[TheLand]

He needs to retire.

Notice how he says second term instead of 3rd which it would actually be. No way can anyone be allowed to run more than twice and he knows it. It’s the exact same thing he is at war with madoobe and JL for. Absolute scammers.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

Notice how he says second term instead of 3rd, which it would actually be. No way can anyone be allowed to run more than twice and he knows it. It’s the exact same thing he is at war with madoobe and JL for. Absolute scammers.

HSM is already on his second term; whilst it is not consecutive, it still counts. I'm sick and tired of hearing names like Farmaajo, HSM, Madoobe, Sharif and Deni. They've all had enough time and have made enough money from corruption, so why can't they settle down and have some shame?

 

[IKHALIIL]

HSM will win a second consecutive term sxb

 

[IKHALIIL]

Notice how he says second term instead of 3rd which it would actually be. No way can anyone be allowed to run more than twice and he knows it. It’s the exact same thing he is at war with madoobe and JL for. Absolute scammers.

 

[Grimmer]

Will there be any new faces? I want to see what they have to offer. But at the end of the day it’s about who has the most money to offer.

 

[TheLand]